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What is the gay life style.

Have it your way Lance. Overanalyze it to death for all I care. :shrug
 
i think that it's enough if we continue with this arguing over this i will lock it up, it's pointless to argue with lance over sin, i dont try to , he knows our view.

correct me, if i'm wrong, lance are you trying to show us that each of the lbgt community is unique. currently i dont feel that you are promoting the lifestyle.

what i see now is that you are trying enlighten us on the different types of lbgt. which i dont mind, but all of that is still sin.

it's hard to do that via the internet.
 
Think about this.

Lifestyles.

A Goth looks, dresses and has the attitude influenced by other Goths.

A Jock looks, dresses, acts and is influenced by other Jocks.

A Rocker looks, dresses and acts and is influenced by other Rockers.

Do Homosexuals fit this?
 
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What is the "gay" life style?

First of all, the word "gay" is a nick name for those who want the word "homosexual" called by another name.

Secondly, What is the "Homosexual" life style? The "style" is obvious... Look at the truth of this for what it really is, Homo "sex" ual perference. It's about "sex" ual preference. It's all about "sex" - Homo"sex"ual preference. Get it? . NOT about anything else.

Trying to dance around the truth of what is the hom"sex"ual life style,
how someone conducts their life outside of their sexual preference and physical expression towards their partner has nothing to do with trying to justify a "gay" life stye from a "GENERAL" perspective. The life "style" is in reference to their "sexual" preference, Not brotherly love for a friend.


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Relic said:
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What is the "gay" life style?

First of all, the word "gay" is a nick name for those who want the word "homosexual" called by another name.
Gay used to mean a gaudy event. Then it meant a sinful or immoral person. Then it was used for male and female protistutes. Then it was used for just male prostitutes. Then it was used for Homosexual Men and women. Technically the word is an insult, but no one cares enough to change it. Its also easier to say in conversation then Homosexual

Secondly, What is the "Homosexual" life style? The "style" is obvious... Look at the truth of this for what it really is, Homo "sex" ual perference. It's about "sex" ual preference. It's all about "sex" - Homo"sex"ual preference. Get it? . NOT about anything else.
Relic Homosexual is the scientific classification of gay. The scientific classification of straight is Heterosexual. Homo meanig one/same and hetero meaning oposite/different. Also, no its not all about sex.

Trying to dance around the truth of what is the hom"sex"ual life style,
how someone conducts their life outside of their sexual preference and physical expression towards their partner has nothing to do with trying to justify a "gay" life stye from a "GENERAL" perspective. The life "style" is in reference to their "sexual" preference, Not brotherly love for a friend.


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Then you will have no problems telling me the definitive list of beliefs and rituals that all Gay men, women, and intersexed take part of.
 
jasoncran said:
i think that it's enough if we continue with this arguing over this i will lock it up, it's pointless to argue with lance over sin, i dont try to , he knows our view.

correct me, if i'm wrong, lance are you trying to show us that each of the lbgt community is unique. currently i dont feel that you are promoting the lifestyle.
I'm not. I'm just trying to show people that the steriotype is very limited and dosen't actually represent the entire community.

what i see now is that you are trying enlighten us on the different types of lbgt. which i dont mind, but all of that is still sin.
I'm not saying it isn't. I'm just trying to get people to realize that not all gay men and women are the same, or have the same political, religous, philisophical beliefs.

The LGBT community is a sociologicaly interesting culture. For such a small group (10%), it has such a varied number of subculters. That is all I'm trying to say. If someone is trying to say Gay lifestyle, then they need to realize that they are talking about many many different lifestyles.
 
The "gay lifestyle" refers to sex. When people say something about the "gay lifestyle" they are speaking about the sexual behaviours. I don't think anyone uses that term in reference to a specific political view or religious belief or favourite food or style of clothing or genre of music....In my estimate, when people use that term they are strictly referring to the homosexual act itself. I don't see the confusion here :shrug
 
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Lance,

Homo"sex" Hetero"sex" defines sexuality.

It's about "sex", not life style outside of a sexual one. That is my point.

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Lance_Iguana said:
jasoncran said:
i think that it's enough if we continue with this arguing over this i will lock it up, it's pointless to argue with lance over sin, i dont try to , he knows our view.

correct me, if i'm wrong, lance are you trying to show us that each of the lbgt community is unique. currently i dont feel that you are promoting the lifestyle.
I'm not. I'm just trying to show people that the steriotype is very limited and dosen't actually represent the entire community.

what i see now is that you are trying enlighten us on the different types of lbgt. which i dont mind, but all of that is still sin.
I'm not saying it isn't. I'm just trying to get people to realize that not all gay men and women are the same, or have the same political, religous, philisophical beliefs.

The LGBT community is a sociologicaly interesting culture. For such a small group (10%), it has such a varied number of subculters. That is all I'm trying to say. If someone is trying to say Gay lifestyle, then they need to realize that they are talking about many many different lifestyles.

thanks for the clarification, i thought that what's you're doing.

for the christian since we are getting a "two dimentional" description of the lbgt community, simple advice and many do this, before attacking the member of the lbgt community on their sin.
try making a friendship then observe when and where and how to witness. let them speak their view and then counter.

i worked with two lesbians and never brought up the sin, as they never talked about it. my wife knew them before i died and told me, and i had suspiscions anyway, pray for them. most of the time we talked bout work and other things. i should have invited them to church or some other christ think.

jason
 
Relic said:
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Lance,

Homo"sex" Hetero"sex" defines sexuality.

It's about "sex", not life style outside of a sexual one. That is my point.

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Sex also means gender. homo - sex, same gender, Hetero - sex oposite gender. Sexual means gender atraction/interaction. The term homosexual didn't even exist until around the 18-19 century. When sex was used a synomous with the word gender.

I know what you are trying to get at Relic, but its an oversimplification.
 
I think some people think that if they show sympathy and understanding toward a group they don't agree with that they are somehow complicite in their sin.

I see this as doing more to hamper relations than anything among christians.
 
walter said:
I think some people think that if they show sympathy and understanding toward a group they don't agree with that they are somehow complicite in their sin.

I see this as doing more to hamper relations than anything among christians.
This makes me think of the saying, "the road to hell is paved with good intentions".
Appeasing sin is hatred towards those who are bound.. and an attempt to make oneself comfortable and well liked.
 
destiny said:
walter said:
I think some people think that if they show sympathy and understanding toward a group they don't agree with that they are somehow complicite in their sin.

I see this as doing more to hamper relations than anything among christians.
This makes me think of the saying, "the road to hell is paved with good intentions".
Appeasing sin is hatred towards those who are bound.. and an attempt to make oneself comfortable and well liked.

Could I ask you to elaborate? I am confused? How is loving your neighbor homosexual or otherwise "...appeasing sin"? Hopefully this is not what you are saying.
 
Aero_Hudson said:
destiny said:
walter said:
I think some people think that if they show sympathy and understanding toward a group they don't agree with that they are somehow complicite in their sin.

I see this as doing more to hamper relations than anything among christians.
This makes me think of the saying, "the road to hell is paved with good intentions".
Appeasing sin is hatred towards those who are bound.. and an attempt to make oneself comfortable and well liked.

Could I ask you to elaborate? I am confused? How is loving your neighbor homosexual or otherwise "...appeasing sin"? Hopefully this is not what you are saying.
Why did you equate "appeasing sin" with love?
 
I don't see what the problem is here, Lance. Myself, Brian, Relic and Caroline all defined what homosexuality is. The homosexual lifestyle is obviously one that is centred around this - this idea of sex. Other parts of the lifestyle, like religion, politics, what they eat for lunch or whatever don't come into it.
 
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Lance, you can continue to keep up the dancing around the face of it if you want to. The only one who seems to be not clear on this is you.

It's about - "sex" between people - Lance.
The issue is around 'sex' not anything else.

Why you are trying to get people to define what the gay "lifestyle" is, is to me no big deal because most people know and use the term "Lifestyle" in references to sexual preferences.... be it when referring to straight, swingers, gays, bi's, beastiality, pedifiles, or any other normal or freakish sexual life sytle.
Lifestyle is just another term being used for identifying the sexual aspect of the relationship people prefer. I think you are making a big issue here out of a definition of terms when we all know that most of the terms people, both heterosexual and those who claim to be homosexual, most commonly use. Seems to me you are grabbing at straws again. :confused


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destiny said:
Why did you equate "appeasing sin" with love?

Here is why...

I find that many on these boards do not embrace loving certain neighbors. Instead, they advocate for treating them differently based on them being homosexuals. Some would not want them to serve in the military, not let them join in legal unions with other consenting adults, equate them with child molesters, etc. It's one thing to "hate" the sin and not the sinner or to have honest conversations on how we feel about their "sin". It is another to demand that they live less of a life as a result of that sin.

I have sensed this from you as well destiny based on your posts and most recently by the post I question. I think you find allowing homosexuals to live their lives as they choose that we are appeasing sin. If that were the case, then why do we not try to restrict how alcoholics, or adulterers, or liers, etc. live? Why is this sin so different that we choose to dictate how they should live their lives? Why are we letting sin divide us instead of finding ways to be united for the greater good?
 
Nick_29 said:
I don't see what the problem is here, Lance. Myself, Brian, Relic and Caroline all defined what homosexuality is. The homosexual lifestyle is obviously one that is centred around this - this idea of sex. Other parts of the lifestyle, like religion, politics, what they eat for lunch or whatever don't come into it.
Nick, you are straight. So your life is centered around Straight sex. You live a straight life style. Meaning you have straight sex and your entire lifestyle is centered around this.

Am I correct?
 
since areo brought it up, i will comment on the dont ask dont tell,

how shall the military treat bisexual(males) and male homosexuals equal with lesbian and female bisexuals, i say this because of the fda blood ban.

the army is teamwork, we already separate barracks for woman and men, what now?
btw kissing in uniform is against the regs.

i have enforced that one before.
jason
 
Aero_Hudson said:
destiny said:
Why did you equate "appeasing sin" with love?

Here is why...

I find that many on these boards do not embrace loving certain neighbors. Instead, they advocate for treating them differently based on them being homosexuals. Some would not want them to serve in the military, not let them join in legal unions with other consenting adults, equate them with child molesters, etc. It's one thing to "hate" the sin and not the sinner or to have honest conversations on how we feel about their "sin". It is another to demand that they live less of a life as a result of that sin.

I have sensed this from you as well destiny based on your posts and most recently by the post I question. I think you find allowing homosexuals to live their lives as they choose that we are appeasing sin. If that were the case, then why do we not try to restrict how alcoholics, or adulterers, or liers, etc. live? Why is this sin so different that we choose to dictate how they should live their lives? Why are we letting sin divide us instead of finding ways to be united for the greater good?
I could also say you hate those who are for keeping the laws as they are. It cuts both ways and is often used as a ploy to gain control and divide; in truth it is far removed from the heart of the individuals purpose and motive.
You judge me unrighteously as unloving in order to say your way is the loving way.

In the end it is enough to know Gods word will judge us ALL as either justified or condemned. I love all who are bound in sin enough to want the former, I haven't forgotten where I came from or who delivered me, and had I been appeased I would have died in my sins.
 
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