What Pleased Our Father

[Dorothy Mae]

I used scripture comparing "leaving God" to "adultery" because of "sin."

Scripture says that of Israel, not everyone who sins. I know you say that but God doesn’t say “sin is leaving your first live.” He lists them and that’s not on the list.

Can't you see that?

I understand your point. No one in the Bible said sin is leaving your first live for obvious reasons. There are people who sin who never loved God in the first place.

The point is we're engaged to Christ now, so don't leave him, abandon him.....by sinning against him,

Where does Christ say he feels abandoned? I mean that’s all quite vague.

if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things. 1Jn.3:20

For there is nothing hid, which shall not be manifested Mk.4:22

Yes of course, but the heart condemns us for wrong we do, not abandoning poor Jesus.

 

[journeymanisnothing]

There are people who sin who never loved God in the first place.

I don't believe in TULIP.

Where does Christ say he feels abandoned? I mean that’s all quite vague.

Behold, the hour cometh, yea, is now come, that ye shall be scattered, every man to his own, and shall leave me alone:and yet I am not alone, because the Father is with me. Jn.16:32

Of course he meant abandoned by mankind, not our Father.
Also as I previously noted, his disciples left him out of fear. The scribes abandoned him (God) before that and their sin manifested as hate.

Yes of course, but the heart condemns us for wrong we do, not abandoning poor Jesus.

Well, many can't see their sin the way God sees it. Many see Jesus in flesh as enduring punishment for every sin ever committed on earth, instead of enduring the punishment of every type of sin people can commit against God.

 

[Dorothy Mae]

I don't believe in TULIP.

What does that have to do with the topic?

Behold, the hour cometh, yea, is now come, that ye shall be scattered, every man to his own, and shall leave me alone:and yet I am not alone, because the Father is with me. Jn.16:32

Did he say they were sinning?

Of course he meant abandoned by mankind, not our Father.

Where?

Also as I previously noted, his disciples left him out of fear. The scribes abandoned him (God) before that and their sin manifested as hate.

You’ll need scripture to show that abandonment was sin.

Well, many can't see their sin the way God sees it.

Very true!!!

Many see Jesus in flesh as enduring punishment for every sin ever committed on earth, instead of enduring the punishment of every type of sin people can commit against God.

Do you think God doesn’t care about sin against others?