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What power is there in prayer?
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stovebolts
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YEah, I could really use a phone call from ya Jason. actually, I'll call you when I get out of work. I almost called you this morning. I was so mad yesterday. We put in a lot of hard work the past year. We both made many sacrafices and I feel like he was robbed.
stovebolts
Member
Sounds like one heck of a vacation! My night ended replacing a toilet upstairs. That's about as ironic as the fortune cookie I got today...
BTW, I put him on a scale Saturday night and he weighed 116. He had to be under 114 for his backet Sunday morning. Had him on the tread mill for 30 minutes Saturday night and gave him a double dose of ducolax. He came in at 113 even Sunday for weigh inns... I have no idea where the extra pounds came from. I suppose I can't say God didn't answer my prayers. I was up all night praying that he made weight and he did. Gad, .... Is that where I messed up? I mean, I never did pray, "God, let my son make it to State". It was always kind of assumed God understood this. STill, it's just not right.
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jasoncran
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that thing has been leaking for a year. it wasn't that bad but well it was one of those things. do during this vacation or one the weekends. man I hear you. It seems that no matter what I have done for the army or mma or even work i find resistance. i have been humbled by events.
tandemcpl
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Stove,
I’m sorry to hear of your troubles. I don’t post much, but I do read many of the posts, and I want you to know that I have learned a lot from reading what you have posted in past threads.
I don’t believe you're wrong for feeling the way you do, in fact you’re in good company. Many have questioned God. Three examples I can think of offhand are Job, Habakkuk, and of course Jesus when He said, “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?
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I really don’t have any advice; however, you are in my prayers.
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Be blessed.
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Toby
I’m sorry to hear of your troubles. I don’t post much, but I do read many of the posts, and I want you to know that I have learned a lot from reading what you have posted in past threads.
I don’t believe you're wrong for feeling the way you do, in fact you’re in good company. Many have questioned God. Three examples I can think of offhand are Job, Habakkuk, and of course Jesus when He said, “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?
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I really don’t have any advice; however, you are in my prayers.
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Be blessed.
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Toby
farouk
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reba:
I know what you mean about conscience as enlightened by Scripture as coals that burn to humble me...
jasoncran
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Jeff, i have learned that God allows defeats and hardship at time.. I also learned that sucks, but later on i have learned that it was for my own good. its hard to see this when we are in that trial but it the truth.I also am there in that I would love to leave both the paper route and the national guard, alas i can do neither.
Wrestling kept my s-i -l in school it is a real great sport... he would chew gum and spit over and over...
Stove the weight it comes from growing. Growing is way more important then going to state, winning a match.
stovebolts
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Reba,
Thanks for your prayers, and I"m thankful for such a friend as Jason.
Toby,
Thanks for your kind words. We often express our joy and we are always quick to rejoice. I only wish that I could rejoice like Jeremiah, and I'm thinking of the book of Lamentations. I feel like a spoiled brat but it's only because I care so much for my son. Jason says I live vicariously through him, and maybe I do just a little bit. But I love my son and it hurts to see his dreams and all of his hard work fizzle in front of him. He doesn't get a second chance, it's done for that league. There isn't a next year. In the scope of things this is petty. I mean, really petty and I'm reminded of one of his wresting buddies who committed suicide friday. I think his father pushed him too far. Last year the boy made small work of my son and the Dad yelled at his son for the way he won the match. The boy is a national wrestling champion and even went to the World finals of wrestling and took first. He put a gun to his head Friday. Nobody saw it coming.
What I didn't mention earlier is that the boy my son wrestled where his shoe came off was on the boy who committed suicide's team. It was a small team and my son was invited as an elite wrestler to be on thier team. We declined but still practiced with them. We even went swimming at their house after practice last summer. The boy my son lost to is now going to state in place of my son.
This is trent from last year. http://www.flowrestling.org/coverag...llar-weekend-for-7th-grade-stud-Trent-Henckel
This is the missing report
http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8964039
This is his facebook
https://www.facebook.com/trent.henckel
And here are his funeral arrangments.
http://www.coatsfuneralhome.com/obituaries/viewObituary.aspx?ID=1403
Sorry guys, my emotions are all over the place today. I must have female genes in my blood or something.
Thanks for your prayers, and I"m thankful for such a friend as Jason.
Toby,
Thanks for your kind words. We often express our joy and we are always quick to rejoice. I only wish that I could rejoice like Jeremiah, and I'm thinking of the book of Lamentations. I feel like a spoiled brat but it's only because I care so much for my son. Jason says I live vicariously through him, and maybe I do just a little bit. But I love my son and it hurts to see his dreams and all of his hard work fizzle in front of him. He doesn't get a second chance, it's done for that league. There isn't a next year. In the scope of things this is petty. I mean, really petty and I'm reminded of one of his wresting buddies who committed suicide friday. I think his father pushed him too far. Last year the boy made small work of my son and the Dad yelled at his son for the way he won the match. The boy is a national wrestling champion and even went to the World finals of wrestling and took first. He put a gun to his head Friday. Nobody saw it coming.
What I didn't mention earlier is that the boy my son wrestled where his shoe came off was on the boy who committed suicide's team. It was a small team and my son was invited as an elite wrestler to be on thier team. We declined but still practiced with them. We even went swimming at their house after practice last summer. The boy my son lost to is now going to state in place of my son.
This is trent from last year. http://www.flowrestling.org/coverag...llar-weekend-for-7th-grade-stud-Trent-Henckel
This is the missing report
http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8964039
This is his facebook
https://www.facebook.com/trent.henckel
And here are his funeral arrangments.
http://www.coatsfuneralhome.com/obituaries/viewObituary.aspx?ID=1403
Sorry guys, my emotions are all over the place today. I must have female genes in my blood or something.
jasoncran
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you mean jace.man, i was thinking about suicide and the causes of it and also loosing soldiers in war. I was thinking about an episode of robotech(anime) where the co had to write the letter to the soldiers mother and father and a ghost of the man appears and talks to him and says don't cry for me. i died doing what i wanted to do.
yes its hard jeff, perhaps this failure is the lesson that you need to see. idk
yes its hard jeff, perhaps this failure is the lesson that you need to see. idk
stovebolts
Member
Well, considering he lost 3 lbs with a good laxative and his eyes are hazel... just saying lol!
stovebolts
Member
Well Jason, I was trying not to give out too much personal information across the web.... but yes.
I'm still working through all this, and I know I'll come out the other side. It's like smacking your thumb with a hammer. Some of us naturally swear or let out a yelp while others are able to keep themselves a bit more composed. We look back at it and learn from it. I guess my thumb still hurts a bit...
Man, it just really sucks to loose the way we did.
Agape
Member
Why might God tell us to wait?
- He wants us to focus on Him more than the object of our desire.
- He wants us to trust Him more fully.
- He wants our attitudes to more closely reflect those of Jesus.
- He’s working in the hearts of others who are involved in His blessing for our lives.
- He’s preparing a greater blessing than the one for which we asked.
Why might God say no?
- Our relationships with others are not right. We may not be expressing forgiveness, mercy, or understanding to the people He’s placed in our lives.
- Our motives for asking may be entirely self-centered, resulting from pride, selfishness, or insecurities that He wants us to face.
- Our faith in God may be wavering because it is based on our ever-changing emotions rather the truth of Jesus Christ and the Bible.
- We fail to tithe and give, and He wants to teach us His view of stewardship.
- We are not serious about reading His Word and applying it to our lives.
- We are living with unconfessed sin in our lives, and He wants to lead us to repentance and obedience.
and I strongly recommend Stanley's teaching series on prayer
http://www.intouch.org/broadcast/vi...the_key_to_answered_prayer_video#.UTUCTaKG2So
Let me know if this answers your questions.
Keep your faith in the Lord and stay strong.
God loves you, and so do we.
God bless.
Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God; 7 and the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus. (Philippians 4:6-7)
stovebolts
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This is a match from earlier this season when Jace was learning to run legs. He made a lot of mistakes, but still managed to win the match and take 1st place for the tourmament.
The boy he is wrestling is named Hunter. Hunter made state and you see how my son dominated him.
[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eILDpKxoxJE[/video]
Watch the end. I'm so proud of my son for his sportsmanship.
The boy he is wrestling is named Hunter. Hunter made state and you see how my son dominated him.
[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eILDpKxoxJE[/video]
Watch the end. I'm so proud of my son for his sportsmanship.
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Deborah13
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I suspect that a good part of your pain is that of a parent for their child. So many years of hard work and determination. But who knows what blessings the Lord has in store. If you and he have all these years given the Lord the glory, which I don't doubt you have, then it will not be in vain. God's words never return void. And as for Job, God restored everything to him.
Blesssings, Deb
stovebolts
Member
Thank you for this post. It is certainly something to think and meditate on. I understand the why God would have us wait. I don't always like it, but I understand it.
As far as why he would say no. I'll have to dig deep to answer those honestly. 2, 5 and 6 will require deeper thought. I'm not aware of any sin, but we all sin. Paul finds himself in a position of not doing what he wants to do but rather doing what he doesn't want to do. It's hard to live fully in accordance to God's will and God's way. I try, believe me I try, and I am often thankful that there is no condemnation for those in Christ. Why God waits makes more sense to me and is much more paletable, but none the less, we all must strive to perfection the best we can.
I dunno.. but thank you for your post.
stovebolts
Member
That is a big part of it. He wanted State so bad last year and missed his wieght bracket by .1 lb. He was crushed when he lost his chance for state last year and it only made him more determined to make it this year.
We wrestle for two leagues. MMWA and MYWAY. MMWA is done, he didn't qualify for State. We still have MYWAY this Saturday and he can still qualify for State through that league. I know he's taking this loss pretty hard because he's wrestled the entire year without a month off to prepare for last sunday's regional tournament. That's why I'm so confused. Like I said, we pray before every match and if you watch the video, you'll see that he's a great sportsman. Even when he looses (unless he gets pinned which is very rare) he will always shake the guys hand and tell him it was a good match. But it comes through his heart, it's not an empty handshake.
As I said earlier, we never did pray for him to make it to State. I suppose we assumed God knew. I'm hesitant to pray for this Saturday's match. What if we pray that he makes it to State and that prayer comes back void? Awfully tough lesson for a kid who's put his heart into something for over a year and has dreamed about going to state for the past 6 years (he's wrestled since he was 5) and he's 14 now going into H.S. next year, so this is it with the league he's spent the last 8 years in. He just wanted to go to state. He still has a chance for MYWAY, but it's not the same.
I have two other "Major" things in my life that I've been praying about for years. Jason and Reba know about it and it is painful for those prayers not to be answered. I know I shouldn't clump this present situation with my other prayers but I think the disappointment overtook me. Do you know what I'm trying to say?
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