'When is the apocalypse?

[for_his_glory]

Do you wait upon the New Jerusalem?

Of course I wait for the New Jerusalem as I am prepared through the Spiritual rebirth, indwelled with the Holy Spirit as I am in Christ and He in me. Until that time I will always be about my Father's business here on earth.

 

[ezrider]

I thought the bride is the one who always turns up late not he groom.

You might be on to something there dan.

Why is it she who thinketh herself a queen doesn't know she's been widowed? And why is it that she who presumes herself to be a bride is waiting for herself?

Only he who now lets will let...

 

[ezrider]

First they are no part of the bride of Christ as they were not prepared. They can wait all they want upon the New Jerusalem, but will never enter as Jesus does not recognize them.

Of course I wait for the New Jerusalem as I am prepared through the Spiritual rebirth, indwelled with the Holy Spirit as I am in Christ and He in me. Until that time I will always be about my Father's business here on earth.

What makes you think that you are any more prepared than those whom you have deemed to be no part of the bride of Christ?

If you are as prepared as you say you are, then why is it that you also say you wait for the bride? Are you prepared as the bridesmaid?

 

[for_his_glory]

What makes you think that you are any more prepared than those whom you have deemed to be no part of the bride of Christ?

If you are as prepared as you say you are, then why is it that you also say you wait for the bride? Are you prepared as the bridesmaid?

Because I am indwelled (filled) with the Holy Spirit (oil for my lamp) upon the Spiritual rebirth as I believe by faith that is Christ Jesus given to us by God's grace who is the hope of our salvation. I am now Spiritually risen with Christ as it is no longer I that live, but Christ who lives in me and I seek those things which are above, where Christ sits on the right hand of God.

What I wait for is the day I will also appear with him in glory when He, the Groom, returns for His Bride.


Ephesians 2:8; John 3:5-7, Romans 10:9,10; Colossians 3:1-4; Romans 8:9; Ephesians 1:1-14; 1 Corinthians 15:51-58; 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18.

 

[ezrider]

Because I am indwelled (filled) with the Holy Spirit (oil for my lamp) upon the Spiritual rebirth as I believe by faith that is Christ Jesus given to us by God's grace who is the hope of our salvation. I am now Spiritually risen with Christ as it is no longer I that live, but Christ who lives in me and I seek those things which are above, where Christ sits on the right hand of God.

What I wait for is the day I will also appear with him in glory when He, the Groom, returns for His Bride.


Ephesians 2:8; John 3:5-7, Romans 10:9,10; Colossians 3:1-4; Romans 8:9; Ephesians 1:1-14; 1 Corinthians 15:51-58; 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18.

Of course I wait for the New Jerusalem as I am prepared......

You post scriptures and claim that you are prepared as the bride while you have deemed others as a being unprepared and no part of the bride. How can you be part of the bride if you are waiting for the new Jerusalem? Maybe you have prepared yourself as a bridesmaid instead. Don't you know that the New Jerusalem is the bride of the Lamb?



Revelation 21:2
And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

Revelation 21:9-11
And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife. And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God, Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal;


As a friend of the bridegroom, a helmet, shield, boots and a sword are not the garments of a bride.

 

[for_his_glory]

I am a part of the body of Christ also known as His church which is comprised of those who trust in Christ as their personal Savior and have received the promise of eternal life with the Father in the New Jerusalem. Those being a part of the body of Christ are for now His friend, John 15:15, preparing ourselves to be untied to Him (Bridegroom) as His Bride, John 3:29.

To keep this in context to the OP we who are in Christ and He in us must enter the Kingdom of God through much tribulation, Acts 14:22. Ephesians 6:10-18 are the weapons of warfare as given to us as being the friends of Christ until we become His Bride and He our Bridegroom. This happens after the apocalypse (final destruction of the world) by God's great wrath during the seven trumpets, Rev chapters 8-11.

Then immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken. And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other Matthew 24:29-39.

Then those who have endured who are of Christ own will become the Bride of Christ united with their Bridegroom and forever more be with Him and the Father in the New Jerusalem that will be ushered down from heaven after this present heaven and earth are renewed, Rev 21:1, 2.

 

[ezrider]

I am a part of the body of Christ also known as His church which is comprised of those who trust in Christ as their personal Savior and have received the promise of eternal life with the Father in the New Jerusalem. Those being a part of the body of Christ are for now His friend, John 15:15, preparing ourselves to be untied to Him (Bridegroom) as His Bride, John 3:29.

To keep this in context to the OP we who are in Christ and He in us must enter the Kingdom of God through much tribulation,

I don't understand. How can you say that Christ is in You and You in Him while at the same time say that you are preparing to be united with Him? If Christ be in you and you in Him, then are you not alright in union?

Then those who have endured who are of Christ own will become the Bride of Christ united with their Bridegroom and forever more be with Him and the Father in the New Jerusalem that will be ushered down from heaven after this present heaven and earth are renewed, Rev 21:1, 2.

Do you understand that the New Jerusalem is the bride?

 

[lisa-in-FL]

My dad thinks the Lord is coming for His church next week. I hope he's right.

 

[John Prewett]

https://imgur.com/uik2Ax7

 

[Dave Watchman]

My dad thinks the Lord is coming for His church next week. I hope he's right.

I wonder why?
Why next week?

https://imgur.com/uik2Ax7

I think we're too close to talk about it.
I think something could happen the last week of November.
Or something could happen next week.
Or something could happen at any time.
Like you say today, 11/11.

The falling away has culminated.
The man of sin has taken his seat.
We are in the 1290 days of it's Abomination.
The signs in the sun and in the moon and in the stars have all been given.
Awaiting the distress of nations and the roaring of the sea.
As we speed toward a "darkened" sun and a moon that will not give her light.

There is no more time.
Soon the trumpet will be blowing
There is no more time for sowing
No more delay, no more delay.

No More Delay.

Soon the trumpet will be blowing
There is no more time for sowing
The fruit is falling from the vine
Awake, awake it’s harvest time

The night is far spend, the day is at hand
Work while you can, do God’s command
Take the News of salvation to every land

Listen to what the watchmen say
Now is the time to watch and pray
Day and night and night and day
No more delay, no more delay

The night is far spend, the day is at hand
Work while you can, do God’s command
Take the News of salvation to every land

It is time for the multitudes to come in
For laborers to go out lost souls to win
For young and old to forsake their sin
For the vats to be filled up to the brim

The night is far spend, the day is at hand
Work while you can, do God’s command
Take the News of salvation to every land

Romans 13:12

The night is far spent, the day is at hand:
let us therefore cast off the works of darkness,
and let us put on the armor of light.

No More Delay

 

[for_his_glory]

I don't understand. How can you say that Christ is in You and You in Him while at the same time say that you are preparing to be united with Him? If Christ be in you and you in Him, then are you not alright in union?






Do you understand that the New Jerusalem is the bride?

It's no longer I that lives, but Christ who lives in me and on the day He returns then will I also appear with Him in glory. For now I am only united with Christ within my spirit.

Galatians 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

Colossians 3:1 If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. 2 Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth. 3 For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God. 4 When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.

The New Jerusalem is not the Bride, but only prepared as in all its glory and beauty like a Bride that prepares all the preparartions for the wedding. Nowhere in this verse does it say the New Jerusalem is the Bride, but only prepared as in an comparison to an actual Bride who adorns herself for her husband.

Rev 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

When reading Rev 21:9-27 the New Jerusalem is described in all its splendor. When you read vs. 24 all the nations meaning people which are saved walk in the light of it as these people are the Bride of Christ who have prepared themselves to be united with their Groom.

Ephesians 5:22-33 describes our relationship with Christ as an analogy. The literal is the husband and wife when married become one flesh, Genesis 2:21-24, and the spiritual is what happens to us when we are Spiritually born again we become one spirit in Christ who keeps us until the day of redemption as we are sealed by the Holy Spirit, Ephesians 4:30.

We individually are not the Bride of Christ, but that of we who make up the body of Christ called His church being one in the Spirit of God.

Rev 19:7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. 8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints. 9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.

The marriage happens when Christ returns, even before the New Jerusalem is ushered down from heaven. The marriage always comes before the reception, but for now we wait with great anticipation for the day we will be united with our Bridegroom and say with all the redeemed of the Lord, "Come quickly Lord Jesus, Rev 22:20.

We know by reading Matthew 24:36 that no one knows when Christ will return. He has given us a sign to watch for of His return in Matthew 24:29-31 which will be immediately after that of the apocalypse of God's great wrath as Christ then returns to gather us to Him as he makes an end to all abominations as He cast the beast and false prophet into the lake of fire and all those leaders that follow after the beast and false prophet, Rev 19:11-21.

 

[ezrider]

The New Jerusalem is not the Bride,

Do you resist what the scripture plainly states?

Revelation 21:9
And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife.

Revelation 21:10
And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,


The New Jerusalem, that great city is the bride, the Lamb's wife. Or was John shown a different bride? Or maybe it was a different city?

Are you waiting to see the same vision that John saw? Or do you rather seek to understand the vision? What of those on the outside, are they waiting to see the vision?

 

[ezrider]

As a friend of the bridegroom, a helmet, shield, boots and a sword are not the garments of a bride.

Ephesians 6:10-18 are the weapons of warfare as given to us as being the friends of Christ until we become His Bride and He our Bridegroom.

If you are called to go to war, then dress for yourself for warfare, but know that armor is not the garment of the bride. I asked you in another post what makes you think that you are any more ready than those whom you think will be left out? If you are prepared as you say and have made yourself ready, then why do you continue to hold fast to armor? Shouldn't you be clothed in fine linen instead?



Matthew 22:8-12
Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy. Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage. So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.
And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment: And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.



Revelation 19:7
Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.

Revelation 19:8
And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.

Hosea 2:19-20
And I will betroth thee unto me for ever;
yea, I will betroth thee unto me in righteousness, and in judgment,
and in lovingkindness, and in mercies.
I will even betroth thee unto me in faithfulness:
and thou shalt know the Lord.


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[for_his_glory]

ezrider I have explained all to you as I understand it. One can not push what they believe on others and expect them to always agree. We will disagree with each other on this, which has nothing to do with the OP. I think we have derailed this discussion between us long enough and now time to get back to the topic at hand.

God bless you and have a great day

 

[ezrider]

ezrider I have explained all to you as I understand it.

I find that when someone makes a comment such as this, they were never really intent on trying hear anyway. When did I ever ask you to explain it to me as you understand it? All I have done is given you scripture to consider.

We will disagree with each other on this, which has nothing to do with the OP. I think we have derailed this discussion between us long enough and now time to get back to the topic at hand.

Actually, it has very much to do with the OP. I just can help it if you fail to see it. But just because you don't see it doesn't mean that it isn't edifying to someone else.

What is the OP? Is it not when is the apocalypse? The Apocalypse of Jesus Christ. The Revelation, the revealing, to make known Jesus Christ in His Glory. When is the apocalypse? Right now. That is if you seek after the Lord and His Righteousness.

But some don't look for the Glory of the Lord, they are looking for the evil one instead. If you are not looking for the Lord, then why would He reveal Himself to you?

Is it a week from Tuesday?
Someone told me it was a week from Tuesday.
How do I get ready for it?

How do you get ready? Well if you are to be ready and prepared as the bride, then you will need the garments of a bride. If you show up to the wedding still wearing your armor fitted for war, then weeping and gnashing of teeth await; For many are call, but few are chosen.

 

[for_his_glory]

I find that when someone makes a comment such as this, they were never really intent on trying hear anyway. When did I ever ask you to explain it to me as you understand it? All I have done is given you scripture to consider.

Our whole conversation has been about trying to explain to each other with scripture what each of us understands. You have explained your points as well as I. Our indifference is about whether the New Jerusalem is the Bride or we who are Christ's own are His Bride. We have both shown with scripture that of what or who we believe the Bride is and we are not going to agree so instead of repeating ourselves and pointing out that I just do not see it your way, it's time to move on which I am trying to do.

The important thing is that we be ready for the return of Christ no matter what will try to come against us during the time of God's apocalypse which means His great end of days wrath during the seven trumpets sounding.

 

[John Prewett]

Some may wonder: Why are top level leaders (Satanic minions) of Western Civilization, from pope on down, deliberately sabotaging/destroying Western Civilization ?

It's because you have to break eggs to make an omelet.
The NWOrder/world government is the "omelet" that is being made,and ALL "sovereign" nations are the "eggs" that must be broken to make it.

Islam a big tool in breaking the eggs. Economic collapse another big tool. Racial conflict another big tool. Nukes will also be used.

The NWOrder/world government is ORDAINED BY GOD to come into existence.
There is no stopping the coming into being of the NWOrder/world government (which will be the throne of the coming final supreme "beast" first revealed in Revelation 13).

(Beast will rule 3.5 years .... and his reign ends the same day as Christ returns in power as per Rev 19)

The pope and such as POTUS Bush Sr openly and plainly revealed their enthusiasm and support for the coming NWOrder.
MANY "elites" [Satan's hi-level minions] spoke likewise.

Revelation 13->forward reveals soul saving blessing conveying information regarding OUR end of era scenario found nowhere else.

Thailand is the only nation that will not become a province of the world government.
Thailand will be a very unique significant way Jesus will “bare His holy arm in the eyes of all the nations,...."
Thailand will be Jesus's "burning bush" nation.

http://www.mosquitonet.com/~prewett/

 

[JLB]

Is it a week from Tuesday?
Someone told me it was a week from Tuesday.
How do I get ready for it?
Should I sell my house and all my goods?
Should I go up on the nearest mountain and wait?
Come on, this is a Christian forum.
Some one should know what to tell me.

It depends on who you ask.

If you ask a Preterist, it happened in 70 AD.




JLB

 

[for_his_glory]

Acts 1:9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight. 10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; 11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.

Matthew 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Matthew 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. 37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Matthew 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand. 16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: 17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: 18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. 19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! 20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: 21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

Now read Revelations Chapter 9 - 16 as this is God's apocalypse (God's great wrath). We are kept by the power of God through faith that is Christ Jesus as we believe during this time of God's end of days wrath will help us not to fall to the deceitful temptation of the beast out of the sea and out of the earth as we are to flee from them.

1 Peter 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4 To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you, 5 Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.

Until this time we need to not worry about those things which must come first before the return of Christ, but to continue in His good works as we continue to take out our witness and testify of Him.

Matthew 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

 

[John Prewett]

I submit to all that regarding our end of era scenario, the Revelation is THE defining scripture. NOT the end of ancient Israel scripture found earlier in the NT.

Paul was not writing about our end of era scenario.
Jesus (as per Matt 24) was not speaking about our end of era scenario.
Revelation 13->forward reveals soul saving blessing conveying information about OUR end of era scenario found nowhere else.