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'When is the apocalypse?

John Prewett said:
Dave Watchman + for_his_glory

When you (and much of the rest of the world) see and and amazed by the reappearance of JFK (with H.Kissinger being his head cheerleader) I hope you will come to understand they are the two Beast of Rev 13 and thus will know to not worship JFK (as the lost of the world is going to do.)

SDAdventist are right about the Vatican being the Great Whore and are wrong about the two Beast and the "mark." http://www.mosquitonet.com/~prewett/
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Why would I or any other Spiritually born again Christian bow down to a man. I have no idea what the SDA teach other than doctrines of devils. I would suggest you study some ancient history of who has always persecuted those who are of God beginning with the Babylonian empire as even today that entity is stii persecuting the saints of God.
 
Dave Watchman said:
It looks like we are in agreement on the important parts.

The fit hit the shan parts. :)

Thanks for the conversation.
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It's been my pleasure conversing with you on this. :) Just wish I could go in greater detail, but like you said we do agree on the important things.
 
John Prewett said:
Dave Watchman + for_his_glory

When you (and much of the rest of the world) see and and amazed by the reappearance of JFK (with H.Kissinger being his head cheerleader) I hope you will come to understand they are the two Beast of Rev 13 and thus will know to not worship JFK (as the lost of the world is going to do.)

SDAdventist are right about the Vatican being the Great Whore and are wrong about the two Beast and the "mark." http://www.mosquitonet.com/~prewett/
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I went to your website and was with you in agreement until the part about JFK and Kissinger.

Vicarius Filii Dei meaning in the place of God. JFK nor Kissinger never were know as or called themselves the holy father.

In Roman/Latin numerals, V=5, I=1, C=100, A=0, R=0, I=1, U=5 (same as V), S=0. Total= 112
F=0, I=1, L=50, I=1. I=1. Total=53
D=500, E=0, I=1. Total=501. Grand Total= 112+53+501=666
 
for_his_glory said:
I went to your website and was with you in agreement until the part about JFK and Kissinger. ................
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Glad you bothered to take a look. So when JFK publicly reappears with Kissinger being his head cheerleader, you will be able to refute those who will claim this was unforeseeable
 

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John Prewett said:
Glad you bothered to take a look. So when JFK publicly reappears with Kissinger being his head cheerleader, you will be able to refute those who will claim this was unforeseeable
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Do you believe Satan can raise anyone from the dead and bring them back to life? This is what would have to happen according to your theory.
 
for_his_glory said:
Do you believe Satan can raise anyone from the dead and bring them back to life? This is what would have to happen according to your theory.
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"I saw one of his heads as if it was mortally wounded, but his deadly wound was healed, and the whole world marveled and followed the beast." Rev 13:3

JFK received the fatal "APPEARING" head wound.
He was terribly wounded but not killed. He's recuperated.

" The beast, which you saw, was, and is not, ...................
Those who dwell on the earth whose names are not written in the Book of Life from the foundation of the world will marvel when they see the beast that was, and is not, and is to come. " Rev 17:8

"....the beast that was, and is not, and is to come. ...."
 
John Prewett said:
"I saw one of his heads as if it was mortally wounded, but his deadly wound was healed, and the whole world marveled and followed the beast." Rev 13:3

JFK received the fatal "APPEARING" head wound.
He was terribly wounded but not killed. He's recuperated.

" The beast, which you saw, was, and is not, ...................
Those who dwell on the earth whose names are not written in the Book of Life from the foundation of the world will marvel when they see the beast that was, and is not, and is to come. " Rev 17:8

"....the beast that was, and is not, and is to come. ...."
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The one flaw to your theory is that the deadly wound came to an entity, not a single man that was literally shot in the head. The description given to John in the revelations was an empire that stemmed from the Babylonian Empire which is called mystery Babylon, mother of harlots, Rev 17:1-6. After its end times 3 1/2 year reign God will destroy and all that have fornicated with this mother of harlots, Rev 18.

It's the seventh remaining nation/empire that Daniel explained in Daniel chapter 7 as Iron represents the stronghold this nation had up to 1798 when it received a deadly wound by General Berthier of France, meaning this empire was shut down for a time until it was revived in 1929 by Mussolini.

The beast out of the sea and out of the earth in Rev 13 is this revived empire using a ruler driven by delusion of deity that will reign here on earth for 1269 days, but during God's apocalypse will be destroyed when Christ returns casting the beast and its false prophet into the lake of fire and all that have followed after this ruling power, 2 Thessalonians 2:3-12; Rev 19:11-21.
 
10 They are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; and when he comes, he must remain a little while. 11 Concerning the beast who was, and is not, he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and is going to destruction. Rev 17:10-11

The Beast is a "king" and throughout the Bible a king is a man.

You better adjust your flawed theory.


In Rev 13, immediately after the Beast is revealed,
the Rev repeatedly refers to the Beast by pronouns that refer to a MAN.

"his, his, his, his, him,his,his,his,him,he,he,he,his,his,his,him,him,him
 
John Prewett said:
10 They are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; and when he comes, he must remain a little while. 11 Concerning the beast who was, and is not, he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and is going to destruction. Rev 17:10-11

The Beast is a "king" and throughout the Bible a king is a man.

You better adjust your flawed theory.


In Rev 13, immediately after the Beast is revealed,
the Rev repeatedly refers to the Beast by pronouns that refer to a MAN.

"his, his, his, his, him,his,his,his,him,he,he,he,his,his,his,him,him,him
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I already said it was a man, but you must have not understood what I said.

I said: The beast out of the sea and out of the earth in Rev 13 is this revived empire using a ruler driven by delusion of deity that will reign here on earth for 1269 days

a ruler driven by delusion of deity is a man who thinks himself a priestly king.
 
for_his_glory said:
I already said it was a man, but you must have not understood what I said.
I said: The beast out of the sea and out of the earth in Rev 13 is this revived empire using a ruler driven by delusion of deity that will reign here on earth for 1269 days
a ruler driven by delusion of deity is a man who thinks himself a priestly king.
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YOU SAID: "The one flaw to your theory is that the deadly wound came to an entity,
not a single man that was literally shot in the head. "

Now you say "it (the Beast) was a man"

Truth: the supreme Beast was/is a single man that was literally shot in the head.

One will never correctly identify the Beast until one knows what the Beast is.
The Revelation makes it clear the Beast (both of them) are men.
Satan wants you to think the Beast is an empire or a nation or a church or anything other than what he is .... a man. A man to whom Satan will give all his power.

Obviously a king must have a kingdom and a kingdom must have a king.
But the supreme Beast is not the kingdom .... he's the king.
 
John Prewett said:
YOU SAID: "The one flaw to your theory is that the deadly wound came to an entity,
not a single man that was literally shot in the head. "

Now you say "it (the Beast) was a man"

Truth: the supreme Beast was/is a single man that was literally shot in the head.

One will never correctly identify the Beast until one knows what the Beast is.
The Revelation makes it clear the Beast (both of them) are men.
Satan wants you to think the Beast is an empire or a nation or a church or anything other than what he is .... a man. A man to whom Satan will give all his power.

Obviously a king must have a kingdom and a kingdom must have a king.
But the supreme Beast is not the kingdom .... he's the king.
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Rev 13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy. 2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority. 3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

This beast that rises up out of the sea is a Luciferian ruling power of economics, political and a false religious system. Daniel describes this in Daniel chapter 7.

Think about this carefully. Does JFK have seven heads with one of those heads receiving a deadly wound? Does scripture say that the deadly wound that was healed was a gun shot? No and No.

The beast rises up out of the sea as the sea here is symbolic of people and nations as in a sea of humanity, Daniel Chapter 7:1-8; Revelation 17:15. This beast is a Luciferian economic, political and false religious system. This beast system that Satan works through gives its power to the beast out of the earth as the beast out of the earth appears as the Lamb of God, but is a false Christ being the son of perdition, 2 Thessalonians 2:3-12 with two horns. The two horns represent the Old Roman Empire that received its deadly wound back in 1798 by General Berthier who made his entrance into Rome and abolished the Roman government and established a secular one. That caused them to scatter into the other ten nations (ten horns). The wound was healed in 1929 by Mussolini.

This will all be destroyed by Christ when He returns at the end of God's apocalypse during the seventh trumpet.
 
Obviously the "Beast" is not a literal "animal" ... nor does he have literally have 7 heads.
Your ignorance of the symbolism is note.
When you see JFK reappear, you better realize he's the supreme Beast.

You act like it was no big deal for a cradle Papist to finally become POTUS of a nation that been deemed a Protestant nation for some 187 years ... which in 1960 was deemed by all to be the most powerful nation in the world .... and then get a literal fatal appearing head wound ... with a very mysterious and oft debated autopsy and aftermath ... you act like that is no big deal.
 
To all: I shouldn't be surprised at how few see that JFK is the supreme Beast.
After all, there are multiple millions who can't see (or won't admit to seeing) the Vatican is the Great Whore of the Revelation (and that arguably the clearest, plainest fulfillment in the Bible) .
No surprise since multiple millions claim they can't see that Jesus is the Messiah.
No surprise since millions claim they can't even see that God exist.
So no surprise that so many can't see how JFK uniquely fulfills the Beast description.
 
John Prewett said:
Obviously the "Beast" is not a literal "animal" ... nor does he have literally have 7 heads.
Your ignorance of the symbolism is note.
When you see JFK reappear, you better realize he's the supreme Beast.

You act like it was no big deal for a cradle Papist to finally become POTUS of a nation that been deemed a Protestant nation for some 187 years ... which in 1960 was deemed by all to be the most powerful nation in the world .... and then get a literal fatal appearing head wound ... with a very mysterious and oft debated autopsy and aftermath ... you act like that is no big deal.
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I am so done with this discussion with you as it's not even relevant to the OP anymore. Go ahead and set your dates and believe Satan is going to raise JFK from the dead by how you believe only a theory. You have a good evening and God bless.
 
Allen Wynne said:
Is it a week from Tuesday?
Someone told me it was a week from Tuesday.
How do I get ready for it?
Should I sell my house and all my goods?
Should I go up on the nearest mountain and wait?
Come on, this is a Christian forum.
Some one should know what to tell me.
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If Jesus does not know, since only the Father knows, how can you expect someone here to know?
 
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