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Where do our immortal souls go when we die?
Where do our immortal souls go when we die?
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That’s not what he said. He said he was there. He says he wasn’t sure if in order out of the body. That’s NOT a vision.
1Co 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.for_his_glory
Where do our immortal souls go when we die?
I don't know what else to tell you other then our understandings are different.As I said it symbolises that the gates are heaven are sgut to mankind
As I said there were two places - what we call hell for the unrighteous and the "bosom of Abraham" for the righteous awaiting entry into heaven.
He went to the place where the righteous were imprisoned awaiting entry into heaven.
You are trying to stitch together two parts of scripture that have nothing to do with each other.
I didn't say he went to heaven. But he described what was going on in heaven
And you are ignoring all the people that John saw in heaven
Where do you think the righteous people of old were witnessing us from?
Since all the others who visions KNEW it was a vision and said so often describing the experience as being like a vivid movie before their eyes, which he did not, the odds are he was there.It was so real that he didn't know. So the odds are that he wasn't there.
I asked what happens to our immortal souls when we die.1Co 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
1Co 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
1Co 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
1Co 15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
1Co 15:54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
It is only those who are God's own that will receive an immortal body only when Christ returns when at that time comes the resurrection.
Heb 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
“Because it is appointed ONCE for man to die and then comes judgement.”I asked what happens to our immortal souls when we die.
You answer by telling me what happens to the body!
I believe that when we die there is a judgement and our souls go to heaven or hell.
If our souls go to heaven then why cannot God send them back to earth?
“Because it is appointed ONCE for man to die and then comes judgement.”
Since he has angels, why would he do that?I'm not suggesting re-incarnation.
But if angels can be sent from heaven to earth then why not human souls?
Since he has angels, why would he do that?
If a man wants to come to know and understand God, he needs to seek what God does, not imagine what he thinks God can or might do. If someone wants to know and understand you, he won’t get there by sitting in his room imaging what you can or might do.
I already explained that in post #12I asked what happens to our immortal souls when we die.
You answer by telling me what happens to the body!
I believe that when we die there is a judgement and our souls go to heaven or hell.
If our souls go to heaven then why cannot God send them back to earth?
Just how I understand scripture and you have every right to believe how you will, but if you want we can discuss our differences.Thank you for your opinions.
I do not agree.
Not at all. God has decided what he does and doesn’t do. He told us too.Wow! Now you are deciding what God can and cannot do.
Elijah didn’t die and surely Moses isn’t your average believer. But what was their mission? Who did they talk to?What about Moses and Elijah - Mt 17: 3 in case you don't remember.
Perhaps I'm misunderstanding you but in post #12 you seem to ne saying that the soul dies and is resurrected with the body.I already explained that in post #12
That teaching is not wrong, but I think that’s not what you’re asking.Perhaps I'm misunderstanding you but in post #12 you seem to ne saying that the soul dies and is resurrected with the body.
If Elijah didn't die then where was he for a couple of thousand years?Not at all. God has decided what he does and doesn’t do. He told us too.
Elijah didn’t die and surely Moses isn’t your average believer. But what was their mission? Who did they talk to?
What am I asking then?That teaching is not wrong, but I think that’s not what you’re asking.
That teaching is not wrong,
Thank you for the offer.Just how I understand scripture and you have every right to believe how you will, but if you want we can discuss our differences.
Since the spirit/breath of God that He breathed in us making us a living soul at birth, I would think that spirit/breath and soul goes back to God when we die. The body, being the physical flesh, when it dies it deteriorates retuning back to the dust of the ground. We who are God's own will be raised with new glorified bodies in that we do not know what that will look like, but will be like Christ in His glorified body.Perhaps I'm misunderstanding you but in post #12 you seem to ne saying that the soul dies and is resurrected with the body.