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where does it say you cannot go to heaven and come back?

Mungo said:
for_his_glory
Where do our immortal souls go when we die?
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1Co 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
1Co 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
1Co 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
1Co 15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
1Co 15:54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

It is only those who are God's own that will receive an immortal body only when Christ returns when at that time comes the resurrection.

Heb 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
 
Mungo said:
As I said it symbolises that the gates are heaven are sgut to mankind


As I said there were two places - what we call hell for the unrighteous and the "bosom of Abraham" for the righteous awaiting entry into heaven.



He went to the place where the righteous were imprisoned awaiting entry into heaven.


You are trying to stitch together two parts of scripture that have nothing to do with each other.



I didn't say he went to heaven. But he described what was going on in heaven

And you are ignoring all the people that John saw in heaven

Where do you think the righteous people of old were witnessing us from?
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I don't know what else to tell you other then our understandings are different.
 
Who Me said:
It was so real that he didn't know. So the odds are that he wasn't there.
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Since all the others who visions KNEW it was a vision and said so often describing the experience as being like a vivid movie before their eyes, which he did not, the odds are he was there.
 
for_his_glory said:
1Co 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
1Co 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
1Co 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
1Co 15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
1Co 15:54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

It is only those who are God's own that will receive an immortal body only when Christ returns when at that time comes the resurrection.

Heb 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
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I asked what happens to our immortal souls when we die.
You answer by telling me what happens to the body!

I believe that when we die there is a judgement and our souls go to heaven or hell.
If our souls go to heaven then why cannot God send them back to earth?
 
Mungo said:
I asked what happens to our immortal souls when we die.
You answer by telling me what happens to the body!

I believe that when we die there is a judgement and our souls go to heaven or hell.
If our souls go to heaven then why cannot God send them back to earth?
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“Because it is appointed ONCE for man to die and then comes judgement.”
 
Mungo said:
I'm not suggesting re-incarnation.
But if angels can be sent from heaven to earth then why not human souls?
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Since he has angels, why would he do that?

If a man wants to come to know and understand God, he needs to seek what God does, not imagine what he thinks God can or might do. If someone wants to know and understand you, he won’t get there by sitting in his room imaging what you can or might do.
 
Dorothy Mae said:
Since he has angels, why would he do that?

If a man wants to come to know and understand God, he needs to seek what God does, not imagine what he thinks God can or might do. If someone wants to know and understand you, he won’t get there by sitting in his room imaging what you can or might do.
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Wow! Now you are deciding what God can and cannot do.

What about Moses and Elijah - Mt 17: 3 in case you don't remember.
 
Mungo said:
I asked what happens to our immortal souls when we die.
You answer by telling me what happens to the body!

I believe that when we die there is a judgement and our souls go to heaven or hell.
If our souls go to heaven then why cannot God send them back to earth?
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I already explained that in post #12
 
Dorothy Mae said:
Not at all. God has decided what he does and doesn’t do. He told us too.

Elijah didn’t die and surely Moses isn’t your average believer. But what was their mission? Who did they talk to?
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If Elijah didn't die then where was he for a couple of thousand years?

Why does it matter that Moses wasn't an average believer?

What difference does it make who they were talking to?

The point is they appeared on earth.
 
Mungo said:
Perhaps I'm misunderstanding you but in post #12 you seem to ne saying that the soul dies and is resurrected with the body.
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Since the spirit/breath of God that He breathed in us making us a living soul at birth, I would think that spirit/breath and soul goes back to God when we die. The body, being the physical flesh, when it dies it deteriorates retuning back to the dust of the ground. We who are God's own will be raised with new glorified bodies in that we do not know what that will look like, but will be like Christ in His glorified body.

1Cor 15:42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
1Cor 15:43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
1Cor 15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

1John 3:1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.
1John 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
1John 3:3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.
 
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