White Girl Bleed A Lot

[Lewis]

Mark is right this is about media bias. I forgot about that.

 

[DarkHorseRising]

Mark is right this is about media bias. I forgot about that.

Ostensibly yes, but there's a deep undertone of racism in this which disturbs me greatly. The entire focus seems to be on finding opportunities in the discussion to toss out the "fact" that minorities commit more crimes. Yet whenever this is pointed out, various rhetoric techniques are used to dodge the issue and the personal attacks come out.

In the end, I might have to simply console myself with the knowledge that very few people in society are gullible enough to fall for these implied suggestions.

 

[Mike S]

Mark is right this is about media bias. I forgot about that.

Thank you.


I think that when people first see my posts, they want to see me as a racist, they want to see racism as my REAL motive.

I've lived and worshipped and raised my family in a majority black community and majority black church for more than thirty years. These people are my friends, they kneel at the altar with me, we raised our kids together, why would I want to hurt them, why would I think them inferior?

 

[Mike S]

Ostensibly yes, but there's a deep undertone of racism in this which disturbs me greatly. The entire focus seems to be on finding opportunities in the discussion to toss out the "fact" that minorities commit more crimes. Yet whenever this is pointed out, various rhetoric techniques are used to dodge the issue and the personal attacks come out.

In the end, I might have to simply console myself with the knowledge that very few people in society are gullible enough to fall for these implied suggestions.

Or, you could just understand that you're wrong. Your entire history proves perfectly what Flaherty ans Sowell have been saying, but you seem incapable of understanding it.

 

[Danus]

Well, I keep trying to steer it back to media bias, but most don't want to deal with that, so they keep returning to the more emotional issue of racism.

The OP describes a book that is about racial crime not being reported as such.

Ok then, let's talk about media bias in this way. How is the media bias on race? Either the media is reporting X race = crime, or they are ignoring the race and simply reporting the crime, or they are ignoring reporting crimes perpetrated by certain people against certain people. ?? which is it?

Usually when I read or see the news they report crime, but do not report the race of the perpetrator/s unless it's a suspect law enforcement is searching for. As I understand it that's pretty much journalistic policy these days since the mid 80's, but it's not necessarily the standard. To me that seems to be about as non-bias as it gets.

If there are crimes against a certain race of people perpetrated by a certain race of people, all because of race and the media does not report it, then I am unaware of it. However, there are racially motivated crimes reported, but unless it's clear that someone committed a crime against someone else specifically out of hate for the race of the other person, it's pretty much up for debate as to the motive, or people can simply form their own opinion as they so often do.

In the case of Travon Martin the media reported what was happening in a community weeks after it happened, and they did it because it was a race related story in that community, to certain people, not all of whom are Black.

It's a story that has also been brewing for some time in the minds of people in that area, and the media reported it as it was developing from other people in saying that race played, or may have played, a role in the incident. The media has since reshaped the story in several ways due to a backlash from the public.

In that case you have some white people outraged at how the story was reported. Some people working those stories from various media outlets have been fired for their roles in possibly slanting the story.

Journalistic integrity is about reporting the facts, being non-opinionated and not slanting a story one way or another. This is not an easy tightrope. Mistakes are made and opinions slip in, but the public is pretty well able to digest for themselves, and if not when all the facts have been presented,then that's their own problem.

Do we really need the media to tell us that Black, gangs of youths exist terrorizing 7-11 stores and walking out with candy bars they did not pay for, or punching people walking out of a ball game?....does it really matter what race it is, or is that even big news? Maybe, maybe not.

There will always be an under-class of people based solely on social-economic conditions, who will band together, form gangs, organize criminal activity, or form little clubs to vent their frustration on the targets of their perceived oppressors. That's what those criminal flash-rob-mobs are, and it's the same with the Occupy Wall Street crowd.....who last I checked where mostly White. Should the media have pointed that out?

The fact is, the media will always be bias to those who feel the media is not reporting things the way they want them reported, or as they see it, but it could also be that what people perceive is not quite the fact. Again with the Trayvon-Zimmerman story.

In the OP, you brought up a book "White Girl Bleed a Lot" by Colin Flaherty, who claims that; "An unprecedented tidal wave of racial violence is sweeping America." and your saying this thread is not about race? Come on man. Your asking for an honest discussion.

The very description of that book goes on to say; "In more than 50 cities on hundreds of occasions in the last two years, groups of black people have robbed, looted, vandalized, stolen even raped and murdered.

Editors say race is not important and call them flash mobs. Police official says race is color-blind, and pretend not to notice.

But America is the most race-conscious country in the world. If you question that, just turn on the news and watch the black caucus talk about black teachers or black workers in black neighborhoods.

But black crime is taboo. Result: We are in the midst of a racial crime wave unprecedented in this country. And no one is talking about it.

For the first time, this book documents racial violence across the country, from San Francisco and New York, to Milwaukee, Iowa, South Carolina and all points in between.

And maybe even stranger, this book documents not just the race riots, but also the official denials from editors, mayors, police chiefs and others.

And how some black elected officials say the problem may be much worse than anyone thinks."

And your claim is that this thread is not about race As I'm understanding it, you feel that racially motivated crime against White people is being under reported. That right?

This thread, as the book points out, is about racially motivated crime perpetrated by Black people onto White people and the media not talking enough specifically about that. You feel there is an injustice in the media, a disservice to the community for only reporting crime and not the motive, or even the perceived motive, when it comes to Black people committing crimes.

We need to know when the criminal is Black, and what that Black persons motive may have been in the commission of that crime, so that we can protect ourselves. That's honestly what I'm drawing from this thread. Help me fill in the blanks so that I may understand what it is you are communicating and wishing to have an honest discussion about.

 

[Mike S]

Help me fill in the blanks so that I may understand what it is you are communicating and wishing to have an honest discussion about.

There's nothing to fill in. I've said it many times, this isn't about racism, it's about media bias. You can either understand that or not.

 

[Mike]

Race aside, the media will always be influence by their world view. We all are, aren't we? If I was a reporter, I couldn't help but be influenced by my faith. The same is true for a secular journalist. And, let's admit, the major outlets (save Fox News) are driven by liberals. They have liberal ideals, and it's exposed by their liberal slant on stories - if we have our radar up.

This topic needn't be about race. It should be rightfully on the willingness of the media to report all events and all circumstances.

Here's a case and point. President Obama and the government is currently being sued by a number of Catholic universities. This isn't some driven class-action suit. These are individual universities that have decided that the obligations they have with the Obama plan severely cripple their ability to provide for their students and staff.

This is the largest collective lawsuit against the government in the history of the United States!!! Have you heard about this? Maybe. Has the general public heard about this problem? Probably not. Why? I highly suspect it is because the powers that be in the media do not want President Obama to be shackled with this news. It would severely impact the Catholic vote.

This needs to be a discussion on the media; not race. Mark has never shown a propensity to be racist, but he has been consistent with conservative Christian values.

These things are agreed upon by most all of us:

• Does racism exist?: yes
• Should racism exist?: no
• Does it exist anyway?: yes

The controlling media dictates what we are exposed to, and we shouldn't be surprised to see when & why it decides to smother certain stories. I didn't see this thread as being about race as much as it being an indictment on the media.

Nothing new here for those paying attention.

 

[Mike S]

Race aside, the media will always be influence by their world view. We all are, aren't we? If I was a reporter, I couldn't help but be influenced by my faith. The same is true for a secular journalist. And, let's admit, the major outlets (save Fox News) are driven by liberals. They have liberal ideals, and it's exposed by their liberal slant on stories - if we have our radar up.

Thanks for your comment, mike.

Yes, the media will always report crimes through the lens of their worldview, and it's a fact that the media under reports racial crimes when the offenders are black. Regardless of their motives - and some are well intentioned - the result is a distorted view of race relations in America and encourages the kind of race-baiting firestorm of political opportunism we're seeing around the Trayvon Martin case.

We're very concerned - as we should be - about angry backlash against blacks, but apparently not so much about backlash against whites.

 

[jasoncran]

theres a part of me that believes that media can by its nature violate the first admendment. keep in mind the media is all about $$$$ and nothing more.

 

[Danus]

There's nothing to fill in. I've said it many times, this isn't about racism, it's about media bias. You can either understand that or not.

.................. and it's a fact that the media under reports racial crimes when the offenders are black. Regardless of their motives - and some are well intentioned - the result is a distorted view of race relations in America and encourages the kind of race-baiting firestorm of political opportunism we're seeing around the Trayvon Martin case.

We're very concerned - as we should be - about angry backlash against blacks, but apparently not so much about backlash against whites.

So again, you feel there is an "angry backlash" against white people by blacks that is going unnoticed by the media? No one is reporting on it? So you have these reports from ??? This book? Any other sources?

I guess my question is, how is it that anyone can say that black people are specifically lashing out at white people in some sort of an organized fashion that the media is ignoring, and not be talking about race. This is happening all over the US the book says. I mean just look at these "Flash Mobs" stealing stuff and punching people. That proves it right there.

I think that book "White Girl Bleeds a Lot" has a target audience for the paranoid disengaged "right" of our society. It's perfect for them. No 'prepper" should be without this book. It is a must read to have in your bunker facility while waiting out the social breakdown of society, and if you don't agree then your just a socialist liberal, probably from France or something. :toofunny

I don't know where you get your news, but I see crimes reported every day by people of all race, but what I also see is an ever increasing Conservative movement afraid of their own shadow, because they've placed more faith in a man-made power system that they feel is unable to protect them, because it's been compromised by a Liberal-media-conspiracy.....and all the while they eat it up as useful information. That's the target audience for that book, and I'm sure the author understands it from his own perspective.

Personally I think it's a bit weak. I've read a few chapters of the E version. There are links to some YouTube videos and new articles about these crimes, so they are being reported, but these incidents are largely local and committed by ignorant youth, and not one that I've seen so far was not reported. In fact in many of the stories race was mentioned, but in other stories where it was not mentioned there was no mention of race in regard to the crime. other stories where race was mention in the commission, that was reported; again of the ones I've seen so far.

The reason it's not national news is because it's not national news. For it to be national then there has to be some sort of link between the local events on a national scale and simply saying that there are groups of Black kids who hate white people is hardly enough to say we have a race riot sweeping the nation, and the powerful socialist liberals don't want you to know! DON-DON-DON! (insert ominous music) .....and que the scream!

We all need to know when black people commit racially motivated crimes so that we can be properly fearful, shocked, horrified and this will help down play false hate crime and race bating reporting like the Travon-Zimmerman case, which was in no way about race, and neither is any of these we are talking about.

The media jumps all over stories about whites committing racially motivated crimes, but does not report the same type of thing when blacks commit racially motivated crimes, but I ask that we consider what Jesus says about this.

Jesus commands us to love one another as He loves us (John 13:34). If God is impartial and loves us with impartiality, then we need to love others with that same high standard. Jesus teaches in Matthew 25 that whatever we do to the least of His brothers, we do to Him. If we treat a person with contempt, we are mistreating a person created in God’s image; we are hurting somebody whom God loves and for whom Jesus died.

Racism, in varying forms and to various degrees, has been a plague on humanity for thousands of years. Brothers and sisters of all ethnicities, this should not be. Victims of racism, prejudice, and discrimination need to forgive. Ephesians 4:32 declares, “Be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving each other, just as in Christ God forgave you.†Racists may not deserve your forgiveness, but we deserved God’s forgiveness far less.

Now I ask you, would the "media" ever says this? Then why are we not also outraged that this message is not being reported? Hum?

 

[Mike S]

So again, you feel there is an "angry backlash" against white people by blacks that is going unnoticed by the media? No one is reporting on it? So you have these reports from ??? This book? Any other sources?

I guess my question is, how is it that anyone can say that black people are specifically lashing out at white people in some sort of an organized fashion that the media is ignoring, and not be talking about race. This is happening all over the US the book says. I mean just look at these "Flash Mobs" stealing stuff and punching people. That proves it right there.

I think that book "White Girl Bleeds a Lot" has a target audience for the paranoid disengaged "right" of our society. It's perfect for them. No 'prepper" should be without this book. It is a must read to have in your bunker facility while waiting out the social breakdown of society, and if you don't agree then your just a socialist liberal, probably from France or something. :toofunny

I don't know where you get your news, but I see crimes reported every day by people of all race, but what I also see is an ever increasing Conservative movement afraid of their own shadow, because they've placed more faith in a man-made power system that they feel is unable to protect them, because it's been compromised by a Liberal-media-conspiracy.....and all the while they eat it up as useful information. That's the target audience for that book, and I'm sure the author understands it from his own perspective.

Personally I think it's a bit weak. I've read a few chapters of the E version. There are links to some YouTube videos and new articles about these crimes, so they are being reported, but these incidents are largely local and committed by ignorant youth, and not one that I've seen so far was not reported. In fact in many of the stories race was mentioned, but in other stories where it was not mentioned there was no mention of race in regard to the crime. other stories where race was mention in the commission, that was reported; again of the ones I've seen so far.

The reason it's not national news is because it's not national news. For it to be national then there has to be some sort of link between the local events on a national scale and simply saying that there are groups of Black kids who hate white people is hardly enough to say we have a race riot sweeping the nation, and the powerful socialist liberals don't want you to know! DON-DON-DON! (insert ominous music) .....and que the scream!

We all need to know when black people commit racially motivated crimes so that we can be properly fearful, shocked, horrified and this will help down play false hate crime and race bating reporting like the Travon-Zimmerman case, which was in no way about race, and neither is any of these we are talking about.

The media jumps all over stories about whites committing racially motivated crimes, but does not report the same type of thing when blacks commit racially motivated crimes, but I ask that we consider what Jesus says about this.

Jesus commands us to love one another as He loves us (John 13:34). If God is impartial and loves us with impartiality, then we need to love others with that same high standard. Jesus teaches in Matthew 25 that whatever we do to the least of His brothers, we do to Him. If we treat a person with contempt, we are mistreating a person created in God’s image; we are hurting somebody whom God loves and for whom Jesus died.

Racism, in varying forms and to various degrees, has been a plague on humanity for thousands of years. Brothers and sisters of all ethnicities, this should not be. Victims of racism, prejudice, and discrimination need to forgive. Ephesians 4:32 declares, “Be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving each other, just as in Christ God forgave you.” Racists may not deserve your forgiveness, but we deserved God’s forgiveness far less.

Now I ask you, would the "media" ever says this? Then why are we not also outraged that this message is not being reported? Hum?

Fail...again.

The thread is about media bias. Try to keep up.

 

[DarkHorseRising]

Fail...again.

The thread is about media bias. Try to keep up.

Then stop insinuating racial differences.

 

[Mike S]

Then stop insinuating racial differences.

The thread is about media bias. Try to stay focused, even if it's difficult for you.

 

[Danus]

Fail...again.

The thread is about media bias. Try to keep up.

I spoke on media bias, and I think the rest is right on target.

 

[Mike S]

I spoke on media bias, and I think the rest is right on target.

For a different thread, perhaps.

 

[Pizzaguy]

Then stop insinuating racial differences.

The differences in the "races" are obvious. The reasons for the differences are not clear, but there ARE differences.

I work with whites, blacks and japanese. The differences in the way each group thinks and acts is striking, and is the basis for the emphasis we place on 'diversity'.

There are obvious differences, otherwise, diversity would be meaningless.

 

[jasoncran]

:eeeekkk tell that the jews who are old school that the gentiles are the same as they. that will go well.