Jim Parker
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Interesting.Those Angels that fell in Rev.12 were religious leaders in Christ's time.
According to whom?
Never heard of it.if one dosn't understand the first earth age,
Please explain.
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Interesting.Those Angels that fell in Rev.12 were religious leaders in Christ's time.
Never heard of it.if one dosn't understand the first earth age,
Please provide scripture to back up that...........................stuffGonna keep it simple
God created all of us at the same time,we were not in flesh
satan rebelled,and 1/3 of creation followed him
Instead of God killing satan at that point along with all that followed him,He came up with a plan.
Us being born flesh,with a choice of who we would follow
That's why some were chosen before this age,(foundation of the world)because of what happened then,ie they were justified and ordained,in the same way that satan was judged to die!!!
Please, where in the world did that theology come from?Gonna keep it simple
God created all of us at the same time,we were not in flesh
satan rebelled,and 1/3 of creation followed him
Instead of God killing satan at that point along with all that followed him,He came up with a plan.
Us being born flesh,with a choice of who we would follow
That's why some were chosen before this age,(foundation of the world)because of what happened then,ie they were justified and ordained,in the same way that satan was judged to die!!!
Maybe Kurt Vonnegut.........Please, where in the world did that theology come from?
I've heard a lot but I never heard that from anyone.Maybe Kurt Vonnegut.........
Me either.I've heard a lot but I never heard that from anyone.
I agree that he has been charge, tried, and convicted but your not saying he is in the Abyss yet, right?
"Instead of God killing satan at that point along with all that followed him,He came up with a plan." would suggest God does everything on the fly. I'm pretty sure his plan was in place before he created anything.Gonna keep it simple
God created all of us at the same time,we were not in flesh
satan rebelled,and 1/3 of creation followed him
Instead of God killing satan at that point along with all that followed him,He came up with a plan.
Us being born flesh,with a choice of who we would follow
That's why some were chosen before this age,(foundation of the world)because of what happened then,ie they were justified and ordained,in the same way that satan was judged to die!!!
When you read Rev 12 with the spiritual eye and not the physical it's easy to understand. If you always read the scriptures physically, where it tells of the beast rising out of the sea,you can have Cecil the lovesick sea Serpent rising up off the coast of New York. Just my opinion.Interesting.
According to whom?
Never heard of it.
Please explain.
iakov the fool
I like about the shortcuts.
I see satan in many places and in many situations.
Am I oversensitive?
Do you believe he's a real live being?
In total agreement! This fairy tale has naught to do with the Triune God Head."Instead of God killing satan at that point along with all that followed him,He came up with a plan." would suggest God does everything on the fly. I'm pretty sure his plan was in place before he created anything.
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The seventy-two returned with joy and said, “Lord, even the demons submit to us in your name.”
18Jesus replied, “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven. 19I have given you authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and to overcome all the power of the enemy; nothing will harm you. 20However, do not rejoice that the spirits submit to you, but rejoice that your names are written in heaven.”
They are angels who sinned. There was war in heaven and 1/3 of the angels lost their place. They know their time is short.
Jesus stated satan leads the whole world astray. The one who sows the weeds.
Since satan is the only one by name already sentenced to death,why didn't God kill him then?"Instead of God killing satan at that point along with all that followed him,He came up with a plan." would suggest God does everything on the fly. I'm pretty sure his plan was in place before he created anything.
No need to be testy brother,it's just that we have different viewpoints.Since satan is the only one by name already sentenced to death,why didn't God kill him then?
And mind you this sentence was before man became flesh,or do you feel Christ came and died for the hell of it?
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The thing is, your right and he's wrong.No need to be testy brother,it's just that we have different viewpoints.
I interpret some scripture different from you,that's all.
11Cor.12:7 where Paul is buffeted by satan,and another verse,which escapes me,where he turned one over to satan that he might learn,leads me to believe that satan is only a tool God uses to perfect the Saints. you can't be an overcomer if there is nothing to overcome.And that is satan's one and only job,to tempt and try you so that you may grow.
But.....This is my personal opinion
Love ya brother
GodWho created Satan? any thoughts?
I agree with the last three words; "Just my opinion."When you read Rev 12 with the spiritual eye and not the physical it's easy to understand. If you always read the scriptures physically, where it tells of the beast rising out of the sea,you can have Cecil the lovesick sea Serpent rising up off the coast of New York. Just my opinion.