Who recieves the cup? Hint-not the world

[Shilohsfoal]

Revelation 14:9 - The Three Angels and Babylon's Fall

And a third angel followed them, calling out in a loud voice, If anyone worships the beast and its image, and receives its mark on his forehead or on his hand,

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Revelation 14:10 - The Three Angels and Babylon's Fall

he too will drink the wine of God's anger, poured undiluted into the cup of His wrath. And he will be tormented in fire and sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb.

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According to revelation, what is the name of the place that recieves this cup? This question can be answerd with one verse.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

Come on people. I know everyone who has read Revelation has read who recieves this cup of God's wrath. It pin points who worships the beast, it image and recieves its mark.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

Well, I thought someone might know who recieves the cup of God's wrath for worshiping the beast. Like I said, It's not the whole world.

Revelation 16:19 KJV: And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.

It's just that adulterous prostitute who is to be stoned to death.

Revelation 16:21 KJV: And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great.

And that fulfills that part of the law.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

Now for those of you interested in knowing where the hail comes from, it's all science. In the gospel Jesus talks about when there would be wrath upon the people of Judea when the abomination of desolation is placed in Jerusalem. The answer to knowing where the hail comes from is knowing what the abomination that causes desolation is.
It is a nuclear weapon. The updraft from a large nuclear weapon will pick up boulders 100 pounds. Building materials and other debris becomes hail.
For more information concerning the hail from a nuclear blast, you can read this.

The Blast Wave

When we think of the destructive effects of ordinary conventional bombs it is not necessarily a fireball that immediately comes to mind. Although normal chemical bombs detonate with explosive thermal events and typically involve rapid oxidation reactions which are accompanied by considerable...

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Come on people. I know everyone who has read Revelation has read who recieves this cup of God's wrath. It pin points who worships the beast, it image and recieves its mark.

Well you revealed in your first post who will TOO receive the cup of His wrath. That would make all inclusive. Rev. 14:9 and 10 says anyone anywhere who too worships the beast and its image will be subject to the same judgements as Babylon. The word " Too" being the operative word. Then you post Rev. 16: 19 which states the great city will be divided in 3 parts and " The CITIES of the NATIONS fell". Then God remebers the city that was divided into 3 parts to give to her the cup of His wrath. Point is, it is pretty clear He has also dealt with the CITIES of NATIONS as well. So, I'm not sure what your point is? And since the Bowls of God's wrath is what you point to, it should be clear, other cities of NATIONS are included because they are mentioned in the same verses concerning the bowls of wrath. Bowls too in the plural not one bowl. Otherwise, if it were just about Babylon it would have omitted them in mention along side of Babylon. It sounds like after the city is divided in 3 parts God deals with the other nations. However, He is going to save the best for last in pouring out His bowl of wrath. It is clear it is all inclusive but will only harm those who worship the beast and its image wherever they are. With God anything is possible. After all, we had a glimpse of that during the exodus account. Only the Egyptians were adversely affected by God's wrath even though both Egyptian and Israelites inhabited the same land.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

Well you revealed in your first post who will TOO receive the cup of His wrath. That would make all inclusive. Rev. 14:9 and 10 says anyone anywhere who too worships the beast and its image will be subject to the same judgements as Babylon. The word " Too" being the operative word. Then you post Rev. 16: 19 which states the great city will be divided in 3 parts and " The CITIES of the NATIONS fell". Then God remebers the city that was divided into 3 parts to give to her the cup of His wrath. Point is, it is pretty clear He has also dealt with the CITIES of NATIONS as well. So, I'm not sure what your point is? And since the Bowls of God's wrath is what you point to, it should be clear, other cities of NATIONS are included because they are mentioned in the same verses concerning the bowls of wrath. Bowls too in the plural not one bowl. Otherwise, if it were just about Babylon it would have omitted them in mention along side of Babylon. It sounds like after the city is divided in 3 parts God deals with the other nations. However, He is going to save the best for last in pouring out His bowl of wrath. It is clear it is all inclusive but will only harm those who worship the beast and its image wherever they are. With God anything is possible. After all, we had a glimpse of that during the exodus account. Only the Egyptians were adversely affected by God's wrath even though both Egyptian and Israelites inhabited the same land.

God doesn't place the abomination that causes desolation in jerusalem or the other cities the king of the north bombs.
God doesn't protect the harlot though as he said he would not listen to them when they call upon him. As for the other cities. Many will be saved from those. Scripture say sn innumerable company. But that's about it. Just the harlot and the Muslim countries that attack Jerusalem are destroyed.
I live in the king of the norths country so I don't have to worry about that.Our military is not going to nuke our cities.

 

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God doesn't place the abomination that causes desolation in jerusalem or the other cities the king of the north bombs.
God doesn't protect the harlot though as he said he would not listen to them when they call upon him. As for the other cities. Many will be saved from those. Scripture say sn innumerable company. But that's about it. Just the harlot and the Muslim countries that attack Jerusalem are destroyed.
I live in the king of the norths country so I don't have to worry about that.Our military is not going to nuke our cities.

Huh. Ok prove that and 1. who is the king of the North in your opinion? And why do you assume the Bowls of God's Wrath is a Nuke? 2. who is the Harlot in your opinion ? 3. what is " A Mystery Babylon" in your opinion? I know that name of ownership is written across the Harlot's head. So, who does she exactly belong to? Only asking because you put a lot of soup out there and I just want to understand your ingredients.

 

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Huh. Ok prove that and 1. who is the king of the North in your opinion? And why do you assume the Bowls of God's Wrath is a Nuke? 2. who is the Harlot in your opinion ? 3. what is " A Mystery Babylon" in your opinion? I know that name of ownership is written across the Harlot's head. So, who does she exactly belong to? Only asking because you put a lot of soup out there and I just want to understand your ingredients.

The city being destroyed is Jerusalem. Mystery Babylon. The beast from Rev 13 is the Israeli goverment who the majority of Israeli citizens serve and adore that kingdom.They will recieve the mark of the Israeli goverment.They are the owned.

1 Samuel 8:17 - Samuel's Warning

He will take a tenth of your flocks, and you yourselves will become his slaves.

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The few or remnant who don't worship that beast or its image or recieve its mark and are killed for thier witness of Jesus will reign with Christ in the promised land.
The second beast in rev 13 is the armed forces of the king of the north which will occupy Jerusalem for 42 months. At the begining of the occupation the daily sacrifice is abolished. It is at that time the mark of the beast will be given to the Israeli citizens and the Christians in Israel are persecuted.

Daniel 11:33 - Kings of the South and North

Those with insight will instruct many, though for a time they will fall by sword or flame, or be captured or plundered.

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Revelation 13:10 KJV: He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

This army will practice the authority of the IDF upon the Israeli goverment behalf. It will make fire come down from heaven (missiles) upon those who are Israel's enemies.
The king of the north is the same kingdom which invades the middle east three times in Daniel 11.The USA.
Most likely Israel joins NATO and those are NATO troops because it states he will return not as the former or the later. The first two times were not as NATO so ill just have to wait and see on that.
The wrath of God is simply to ignore those who chose the beast as thier king Insted of Christ.

1 Samuel 8:18 - Samuel's Warning

When that day comes, you will beg for relief from the king you have chosen, but the LORD will not answer you on that day.

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Insted of the Lord as thier king, they wanted a king like the gentiles have and they have that today. That's why the beast in rev 13 resembles different beasts. It resembles different goverments of the nations.
"A king like the gentiles have"

1 Samuel 8:7 - Israel Demands a King

And the LORD said to Samuel, Listen to the voice of the people in all that they say to you. For it is not you they have rejected, but they have rejected Me as their king.

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Now for those of you interested in knowing where the hail comes from, it's all science. In the gospel Jesus talks about when there would be wrath upon the people of Judea when the abomination of desolation is placed in Jerusalem. The answer to knowing where the hail comes from is knowing what the abomination that causes desolation is.
It is a nuclear weapon. The updraft from a large nuclear weapon will pick up boulders 100 pounds. Building materials and other debris becomes hail.
For more information concerning the hail from a nuclear blast, you can read this.

The Blast Wave

When we think of the destructive effects of ordinary conventional bombs it is not necessarily a fireball that immediately comes to mind. Although normal chemical bombs detonate with explosive thermal events and typically involve rapid oxidation reactions which are accompanied by considerable...

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Blast Wave? Ok now I see where you are coming from.

From the article you quote:

"It is interesting that most of the prophecies that predict fire and brimstone accompanying the final battles also say that there will be hail produced by these events. Why hail? This effect is directly related to the powerful up-drafts caused by the rising nuclear fireballs, which form the characteristic mushroom clouds. The air surrounding the blast zone contains huge quantities of water from the atmosphere and even greater quantities of water produced by the blast. This moisture would rise into the stratosphere within minutes and would result in literal ice hailstorms formed far away from ground zero. Before the above ground nuclear tests were abolished, many of them were accompanied by weather disturbances such as huge condensation clouds and hail. Hail was also discovered to be one of the aftereffects of the Hiroshima and Nagasaki blasts. This effect is similar to the strong up-drafts that often accompany tornadoes and huge thunderstorms; however, with nuclear explosions the updrafts occur with tremendously greater energies."

I see how that is possible. But is it the only means by which "hail" could happen? See, the way I see the seventh bowl of wrath is, it is alongside the Seventh Trumpet. I believe it is wiping the slate clean and is the annihilating of evil men from off the earth completely and totally, preparing for the firstfruits=the first resurrection. See if you catch my drift when chp.11 verse 18-19 are placed between chp 16 verses 17 - 18 .
Revelation 16:
The Seventh Bowl of Wrath

17Then the seventh angel poured out his bowl into the air, and a loud voice came from the throne in the temple, saying, “It is done!”
Rev.11: 18-19The Seventh Trumpet
…18The nations were enraged, and Your wrath has come. The time has come to judge the dead and to reward Your servants the prophets, as well as the saints and those who fear Your name, both small and great—and to destroy those who destroy the earth.” 19Then the temple of God in heaven was opened, and the ark of His covenant appeared in His temple. And there were flashes of lightning, and rumblings, and peals of thunder, and an earthquake, and a great hailstorm.
Not only that, with what your article suggests, it would require that first, the bomb would have to hit the ground to have what you claim to happen afterwards in the atmosphere. Catch my drift? It is clear in the Rev16 you quote that the angel powers out his bowl into the air. That would mean the point of origin is from above and fills the air from there. Could I be wrong?
I believe when the Elect are snatched up at the last trumpet and return of Christ, they enter the Temple completing the number of those of the Ark of His covenant. Once there on their behalf He pours out His seventh bowl of wrath. The same language that is used in Rev.16 that you point to is also used in Rev.11:18-19 I point to. And this wrath is directly from God and not via man. I hear you keep talking about Israel's last resort Nuke? So, you believe Rev.16 is about that Nuke?

In my opinion the Last of the 7 concerning- Seventh Bowl, Seventh Trumpet are in unaccent. I say that due the same language being used in both Rev.11 and Rev. 16. Not saying that Israel couldn't Nuke itself, I mean anything is possible with that. Just don't agree the verses you allude to say that, IMHO.
Back to Rev 16:
18And there were flashes of lightning, and rumblings, and peals of thunder, and a great earthquake the likes of which had not occurred since men were upon the earth—so mighty was the great quake. 19The great city was split into three parts, and the cities of the nations collapsed. And God remembered Babylon the great and gave her the cup of the wine of the fury of His wrath.

20Then every island fled, and no mountain could be found. 21And great hailstones weighing almost a hundred pounds each rained down on them from above. And men cursed God for the plague of hail, because it was so horrendous.

Again Rev. 11:19
19Then the temple of God in heaven was opened, and the ark of His covenant appeared in His temple. And there were flashes of lightning, and rumblings, and peals of thunder, and an earthquake, and a great hailstorm.

Seems the wicked curse God to their last dying breath.

That's just an opinion, is it the correct one? No doubt I will find out being the last of the chosen generation. I know that much because the global birth pains have already begun.
“Verily I say unto you, this generation shall not pass away, till all these things be accomplished” (Mt. 24:34).

 

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The city being destroyed is Jerusalem. Mystery Babylon. The beast from Rev 13 is the Israeli goverment who the majority of Israeli citizens serve and adore that kingdom.They will recieve the mark of the Israeli goverment.They are the owned.

Ok! I can get with this to a degree. Some things to point out, using the scriptures of course because you are wrong when you say it is only Israel who will worship the beast.
Rev 13: 7-9The Beast from the Sea
…7Then the beast was permitted to wage war against the saints and to conquer them, and it was given authority over every tribe and people and tongue and nation. 8And all who dwell on the earth will worship the beast— all whose names have not been written from the foundation of the world in the Book of Life belonging to the Lamb who was slain. 9He who has an ear, let him hear:…
I think when you read tribe and nation you have tunnel vision and only think of the 12 Tribes of Israel. That is not what that is saying it is clear;And all who dwell on the earth will worship the beast— all whose names have not been written from the foundation of the world in the Book of Life belonging to the Lamb who was slain.

it was given authority over every tribe and people and tongue and nation.

You will know who the beast is by understanding its image. And they not only control Israel but the globe with the reach of its global banking system. “Give me control of a nation’s money and I care not who makes its laws.”Mayer Amschel Bauer Rothschild

Rev13:2

2The beast I saw was like a leopard, with the feet of a bear and the mouth of a lion. And the dragon gave the

beast his power and throne and great authority.
This symbolism is the main body of the Rothschild's Coat of Arms. They are the only ones to have it. Hence, a patent. Don't confuse it with England's Royal family's theirs is strictly a lion.

In their coat of arms that which looks to the eye to be the body of a lion is actually a Leopard Passant, the feet look like those of a bear, not a leopard

Rev.13:2The beast I saw was like a leopard, with the feet of a bear and the mouth
of a lion. And the dragon gave the beast his power and throne and great authority. And obviously the head and
mouth is of a lion. Proof of the accuracy of this interpretation is in the fact, that what appears to just be the body
of a lion, is as John says , a leopard, (BUT NO SPOTS) exactly! John saw the design of their patent. What we are given, its spots are hidden.

Here is the beginning part of their patent Note: second quarter LEOPARD PASSANT, first quarter EAGLE
SABLE=looks just like a dragon and as Christ said: " Where the corpse is the eagle or vultures in some bibles, will gather". I'll discuss the Vatican another time. God willing.The dead are
with the house of Rothschild. You cannot deny that the top of their coat of arms looks like a dragon it matters
not what it is called, both eagle and dragon denote POWER but clearly, the gothic eagle looks like a dragon. Also, the six-pointed star next to the dragon, or eagle.
The unicorn represent power in scripture and in the dark arts- MAGIC. The three feathers represent the unholy
trinity, the world, the flesh and satan= stork fearthers, unlike the Dove which is a representation of the Holy
Spirit which Christ is and conceived of. A stork in Leviticus 11:19 is an unclean bird and God the Father would
never use that as a symbolism of heavenly things.

Patent for the first Rothschild coat of arms, 1817

The title of nobility granted to the Rothschilds by Austria permitted the use of the 'von' in the name and stems
from an Order in Council of Francis I of 21 October 1816. The design submitted by the brothers for their Arms
was accompanied by a letter of explanation in Salomon's hand. The proposed design included:

First quarter, an eagle sable surcharged in dexter by a field gules (referring to the Imperial and Royal Austrian
Coat of Arms); Second quarter, gules, a leopard passant proper (referring to the English Coat of Arms); Third
quarter, a lion rampant (referring to the Hessian Electoral Coat of Arms); Fourth quarter, azure, an arm bearing
five arrows (a symbol of the unity of the five brothers). In the centre of the coat a shield gules. Right hand sup-
porter, a greyhound, a symbol of loyalty; left supporter, a stork, a symbol of piety and content. Crest: a coronet
surmounted by the lion of Hesse.

The Rothschilds asked for separate patents of nobility for each of the four brothers as they lived in different
countries. The separate patents were granted, but the design was considered too grand. The response to the ap-
plication had a 'suitable' design attached to it, without the coronet, heraldic animals supporting the shield, or the
lion and leopard. Also, the arm grasped just four arrows. A letter in the Archive from Amschel to Salomon and
Nathan in November 1816 reads, ".....James and Carl received the nobility. It is a pity that Nathan did not want
it."

 

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The city being destroyed is Jerusalem. Mystery Babylon. The beast from Rev 13 is the Israeli goverment who the majority of Israeli citizens serve and adore that kingdom.They will recieve the mark of the Israeli goverment.They are the owned.

1 Samuel 8:17 - Samuel's Warning

He will take a tenth of your flocks, and you yourselves will become his slaves.

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The few or remnant who don't worship that beast or its image or recieve its mark and are killed for thier witness of Jesus will reign with Christ in the promised land.
The second beast in rev 13 is the armed forces of the king of the north which will occupy Jerusalem for 42 months. At the begining of the occupation the daily sacrifice is abolished. It is at that time the mark of the beast will be given to the Israeli citizens and the Christians in Israel are persecuted.

Daniel 11:33 - Kings of the South and North

Those with insight will instruct many, though for a time they will fall by sword or flame, or be captured or plundered.

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=equal to=

Revelation 13:10 KJV: He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

This army will practice the authority of the IDF upon the Israeli goverment behalf. It will make fire come down from heaven (missiles) upon those who are Israel's enemies.
The king of the north is the same kingdom which invades the middle east three times in Daniel 11.The USA.
Most likely Israel joins NATO and those are NATO troops because it states he will return not as the former or the later. The first two times were not as NATO so ill just have to wait and see on that.
The wrath of God is simply to ignore those who chose the beast as thier king Insted of Christ.

1 Samuel 8:18 - Samuel's Warning

When that day comes, you will beg for relief from the king you have chosen, but the LORD will not answer you on that day.

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Insted of the Lord as thier king, they wanted a king like the gentiles have and they have that today. That's why the beast in rev 13 resembles different beasts. It resembles different goverments of the nations.
"A king like the gentiles have"

1 Samuel 8:7 - Israel Demands a King

And the LORD said to Samuel, Listen to the voice of the people in all that they say to you. For it is not you they have rejected, but they have rejected Me as their king.

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Shilohsfoal said:"The king of the north is the same kingdom which invades the middle east three times in Daniel 11.The USA."

You do know America is NOT NORTH of Israel or the Middle East as Russia is, right? So that alone, proves America is not the northern kingdom. It isn't even North of Canada. The king of the North is Russia's Putin which is north of the king of the South's China and concerning latitude and longitude is considered more North of Israel. Anymore north is Greenland and who are they? Russia is more Northeast of Israel and Greenland more northwest. Just sayin. And Norway, is north of Israel and who is Norway? I see why you and the like came at me. But please at least do so from an informed stance. Thanks!

 

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With the run down from Daniel I have given in that Daniel 11 thread I made a step by step of the rise and fall of kingdoms is shared. I was open to your interp here and engaged in conversation In this thread I proved you are off in many ways. Something you and no one else did with my post even in the least. If I have in the least, proven you wrong, that should allow for a 'stop and think moment' in the least.

Stepping off historically from the timeline Daniel gave concerning Babylonian kings and Persian, it is pretty clear and straight forward what I shared With those pivotal stepping off points America is not the Northern kingdom. That isn't just an opinion but an understanding of history. Besides, anything America does is on behalf of Zionist Israel. Israel just works behind the scenes. The Middle East has been invaded by Israel in actuality. And since you called it Babylon you actually are more supportive of my claim in your opinion. Even if you were not completely correct. The fact is Babylon is a practice interwoven in all kingdoms in which the Masters are the Image of the Beast. And we know from this 23 The light of a lamp will never shine in you again, and the voices of a bride and bridegroom will never call out in you again. For your merchants were the great ones of the earth, because all the nations were deceived by your sorcery.”

That Babylon controls the kings of the earth. Everything is in Babylon's control that has conceded. Those who use the Babylonian Talmud control most things. Even our purchasing of goods and trade, and even textiles and even our power grids etc.... is in Babylon's control. When Babylon falls and is forced to go into the earth is when a certain peace for a time will come. The final battle will be after a bit of a reprieve from the Beast system. There is a certain time of peace that will be granted on the Elects behalf- a shortening of days in the middle of not the end. Because really, who would know if something was shortened at the end? After all, does anyone know how long the end is? That would be to know when Christ is to return. So, by that logic in deduction alone, I am correct.

After the shortening or pause is over, then the FINAL battle of Armageddon will happen. At present we have been dealing with the War of Gog and Magog, completely different. But unfortunately, " scholars " have been mixing up the two. They are missing some key events.

 

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Of course it's not the whole world, but those who have/are captivated by Mystery Babylon, mother of harlots as many have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication. Rev 17:1-2.

 

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Sorry about the length, but sometimes the full needs to be given.

When the son of perdition takes his literal seat in the holy place of Jerusalem, 2Thessalonians 2:1-5, Jesus warned us to flee as He has a place prepared for us wherever we go to, Matthew 24:15-21; Rev 12:14. At this time many Christians will be taken captive that did not heed the warning to flee and if they will not denounce Christ and bow down and take the mark of this beast, who falsely claims peace and safety to all who takes its mark, they will die a martyr's death.

God's protection is absolute to those who are His own and escape into the wilderness as they trust in Christ to help meet their needs. Just as God told Moses to strike the rock for fresh water, Exodus 17:1-7, and sending manna down from heaven and providing Quail for meat, Exodus 16, so will be the same in the end of days, Philippians 4:19.

Nut shell scenario of what will happen during the first six trumpets of Rev Chapters 8-11 that leads up to the seventh trumpet and the 3 1/2 years events of Chapter 13 with the beast out of the sea and out of the earth.

God’s wrath is poured out into the world as chastisements for disobedience, but also a warning that man needs to repent and turn back to God before the door of salvation is closed forever when Christ returns.

Hail and fire can be likened unto meteors that fall from the sky. A third of the trees and all the green grass are burned up which makes a third part of the world with a shortage of oxygen in the air that is created from the carbon dioxide from the trees and living plants. Seeing that this is Global the intense fire and smoke from all the trees and grass burning can travel for miles causing much more damage throughout the nations. The trees that produce various healthy foods for our wellbeing will become scarce. The green grasses that would probably include crops of wheat, barley, corn and so forth will be destroyed causing a shortage in food. The animals we depend on as a food source will also die as they are left without vegetation they need to live on.

This great mountain burning with fire could be a large asteroid as the third part of the sea is destroyed along with sea life and the third part of the ships that sit in it. The third part of the sea turned to blood by reason of all the animal life that is killed and those men, women and children who are on these ships that are destroyed. Take into consideration the disease that would spread from all the rotted sea life that is rotting away washing up on the shore and the flesh of those who were burned along with the ships.

These ships will more than likely be types of fuel tankers, merchant, fishing and luxury cruises ships traveling the waters. With the third of these ships being destroyed means a third part of the world’s fuel and food supply would be destroyed. There is only one ocean, but divided by four regions as being the Pacific Ocean, Atlantic Ocean, Arctic Ocean, and the Indian Ocean. This would be like the four corners of the earth as being North, South, East and West. The only difference between the ocean and the sea is that the ocean is much larger and feeds into the 108 seas around the world that also flow into our lakes and streams that provide us with fresh drinking water and other sources of food.

With the third part of the sun, moon and stars being darkened this will affect mans source of electricity and heat that is vital to keep a certain degree of the earth warm, and generated power in homes, hospitals and manufacturing plants including nuclear reactors.

Agriculture and navigation would be hard pressed as it takes the solar power from the sun to run the solar cells that produces the energy needed to run farming machinery and trucks to take the produce to manufacturing plants where the produce is then distributed to market.

Vehicles such as cars, ambulances, planes, trains and the list goes on need an energy source from the sun in order to run their engines. The darkness of the third part of the day would be roughly around eight hours of daylight being lost and total darkness of night as the moon and stars are illuminated by the sun at night. A flashlight would be useless to see in the dark as it needs energy from the sun to run the battery that turns the light on.

This much darkness would cause people to panic in the streets creating chaos as the love of many will wax cold, Matthew 24:12. Riots would break out causing looting and lose of life as those who have not will do anything in desperation to take from those who have much. IMO Marshal law will be enforced as we see history repeat itself with many Christians taken captive that did not flee and killed as they refuse to denounce Christ and take the mark. They will also die a martyr's death, Rev 6:9-11, especially vs. 11. Also we are not to fear what man can do to us, Matthew 10:28.

This is where the mark of the beast comes in during the seventh trumpet as this NWO is a Luciferian system of economics, political, military, educational, environmental and false religious power that gives power to the beast out of the earth being the son of perdition. By lying signs and wonders the beast will deceive the nations (people) into taking its mark. IMO I think the mark is the thoughts of our mind and the actions of our hands reaching out to this beast that promises peace, safety and provision as many will bow down and worship this beast who claims to be God.

After the 3 1/2 years of this Luciferian reign on earth that will try and wear out the saints, Daniel 7:25, then every eye will see Christ coming in the clouds with His army of angels that are then sent out to gather those saints who are alive at His coming and those who sleep in their graves, Matthew 24:29-31; 1 Corinthians 15:51-58; 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18; Rev 19:11-21. We are gathered up to the clouds as we receive our new glorified bodies in order to meet Jesus in the air. From the air He destroys the beast and false prophet by the brightness of His coming only speaking their destruction casting them into the lake of fire. Satan is bound for a time as Jesus sets out to destroy all the nations that followed after the beast. Satan is then released in a final attempt to destroy the saints as he sends his angels out to surround the camp of the saints, but the angels are consumed by fire and Satan cast into the lake of fire. Then comes God's great white throne judgment and the books are opened and all are judged. Then this present heaven and earth are burned up and made new again and the New Jerusalem is ushered down from heaven where we will be with the Lord forever.

 

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Revelation 14:9 - The Three Angels and Babylon's Fall

And a third angel followed them, calling out in a loud voice, If anyone worships the beast and its image, and receives its mark on his forehead or on his hand,

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Revelation 14:10 - The Three Angels and Babylon's Fall

he too will drink the wine of God's anger, poured undiluted into the cup of His wrath. And he will be tormented in fire and sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb.

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According to revelation, what is the name of the place that recieves this cup? This question can be answerd with one verse.

Your verse 9 and 10 is the answer..."And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation;

 

[God Is My Judge]

Listen I don't mind being proven wrong. I welcome it actually. I love learning from others. In my Daniel 11 post I did state the views I share are IMHO. If someone knows something better or can at least correct something I posted, I would love that and am humble enough to revisit prophecy. And I pray, that with the Holy Spirit's help I get what I ask for, which is to understand prophecy. " Ask and you shall receive, knock and the door shall be opened". Now if that door is opened to me by way of another child of God, great! Who am I to tell God how to open His doors? So, as it stands, until someone corrects me, I'll stand firm in my understanding. I mean after all, isn't that how it goes? something remains standing as truth until proven wrong. Truth will not fall. If I have spoken truth the lack of proof against will prove me right. This isn't about salvation per-say but rather being in a school of learning where each try to give their perspective until the Teacher corrects. I know where my salvation comes from. As long as I uphold the tenets of Christ, love all the household, don't bash the saints which includes His mother, stand up for the house and the truth of Christ from all, regardless of denomination, I'm good! Truth is truth!

 

[God Is My Judge]

Sorry about the length, but sometimes the full needs to be given.

Not a problem. As for the rest you wrote, first I would like Shi to address some of my rebuttals against some of the mistakes I found in her/his post. I can clearly see; you all are cozy together and have joined in to surround Shi in support and me in challenge. That's fine. I have the Holy Spirit and trust He can never be outnumbered. Thanks for engaging. I will read thoroughly your post and get back to you after, pointing to what I may agree with or disagree with of course giving proof against, where I disagree. Sound fair? First thing is first, what I have addressed to Shi. Thanks again!

 

[God Is My Judge]

Your verse 9 and 10 is the answer..."And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation;

How nice of you Hopeful to point out the obvious that Shi may have missed. Thanks for the support! Mighty Christian of you.

 

[JLB]

Revelation 14:9 - The Three Angels and Babylon's Fall

And a third angel followed them, calling out in a loud voice, If anyone worships the beast and its image, and receives its mark on his forehead or on his hand,

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Revelation 14:10 - The Three Angels and Babylon's Fall

he too will drink the wine of God's anger, poured undiluted into the cup of His wrath. And he will be tormented in fire and sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb.

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According to revelation, what is the name of the place that recieves this cup? This question can be answerd with one verse.

The cup of God’s wrath poured out full strength is to be cast into the lake of fire, and to be tormented day and night forever.

• He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever;

This is for anyone, Christian or not, who takes the mark of the beast, and or worships the beast and his image.



Then a third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives his mark on his forehead or on his hand, he himself shall also drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out full strength into the cup of His indignation. He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they have no rest day or night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.”
Here is the patience of the saints; here are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.
Revelation 14:9-12





JLB

 

[for_his_glory]

Not a problem. As for the rest you wrote, first I would like Shi to address some of my rebuttals against some of the mistakes I found in her/his post. I can clearly see; you all are cozy together and have joined in to surround Shi in support and me in challenge. That's fine. I have the Holy Spirit and trust He can never be outnumbered. Thanks for engaging. I will read thoroughly your post and get back to you after, pointing to what I may agree with or disagree with of course giving proof against, where I disagree. Sound fair? First thing is first, what I have addressed to Shi. Thanks again!

No one is supporting or challenging anyone as these are opened discussions without each one taking their turn waiting for others to reply to them. I am quite sure he can reply to all who are replying to him. Shilohsfoal and I have known each other way back before you became a member and we have always had good discussions even though we disagree with each other at times.

You need to take that chip off your shoulder for something I gave you in another thread that was only a helpful suggestion. Threads are not the place to air disgruntles, but to take it to TWTS so it can be reconciled between the two of us. That is why I edited your post #12 in this thread and told you to take it to TWTS.