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Why Two Sickles?

Ret said:
Cornelius said:
... there really are only two "men" in the world.

1)Body of Christ
2)Body of antiChrist

Do you know of any more "men" ? Of course not, there are only these two spiritual "men" in the world.
C... are you saying 'antiChrist = Satan/Devil?

I see the 'two men' as
........one is CHRIST
........one is SATAN.


SATAN...has two forms
........one - 'roaring lion'
........one - come as an 'angel of light' = the antichrist.




The Bible is talking about 1) believers 2 ) non-believers
Groups. Those two groups are called "men"
 
Cornelius said:
MMarc said:
Good points C.

I see these saints who feed those in the wilderness to be more "prophets" who come from the wilderness or without the camp if you will.

Without ''Lording'' over the church, this type of people I see mostly in ministries and not as much in organised denominations.

Yes the "man child" ministry will not be Nicolaitan as we see in today's denominations. They are "outside the camp" as you say. It will be the whole five fold ministry restored.

Yep and this restoration will have us have the same relationship with the Father as Adam and Eve had before the fall...All because Jesus came for us.
 
MMarc said:
Yep and this restoration will have us have the same relationship with the Father as Adam and Eve had before the fall...All because Jesus came for us.
I believe ADAM and EVE - as in the beginning (before the fall) of this earthly life are HISTORY!
NO RESTORATION of the original - NEW CREATION, yes. History of past natural, earthy things will be buried forever, along with all 'former things' of scripture.

1 Cor 15:45-49
45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.
48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.
50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. KJV

Rev 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. KJV
 
Ret said:
MMarc said:
Yep and this restoration will have us have the same relationship with the Father as Adam and Eve had before the fall...All because Jesus came for us.
I believe ADAM and EVE - as in the beginning (before the fall) of this earthly life are HISTORY!
NO RESTORATION of the original - NEW CREATION, yes. History of past natural, earthy things will be buried forever, along with all 'former things' of scripture.

1 Cor 15:45-49
45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.
48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.
50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. KJV

Rev 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. KJV

In Paradise before Adam and Eve fell, there was no death, sorrow, crying or pain....
The whole goal is to restore all things, paradise lost. That the whole point of our history. To get back what we lost through Adam and to be restored through Jesus.

Adam talked with God as most today who have the kingdom of God in them, the only difference is we are surrounded by darkness.
 
MMarc said:
In Paradise before Adam and Eve fell, there was no death, sorrow, crying or pain....
The whole goal is to restore all things, paradise lost. That the whole point of our history. To get back what we lost through Adam and to be restored through Jesus.

Adam talked with God as most today who have the kingdom of God in them, the only difference is we are surrounded by darkness.
While the garden of Eden is symbolic, I believe the only thing that continues in it's ORIGINAL position from within the 'Garden of Eden' is the TREE of LIFE...and that TREE is Jesus Christ the Son of God.

Jesus said...

Matthew 7:18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. KJV

Within these words about good tree, evil tree, I believe Jesus is talking about the whole human race, beginning with the creation of A&E - before they ate the forbidden fruit. For years I repeated what the church fathers taught about A&E, but as God gives me to examine the WORD more closely, it's quite different from the things I learned in the 'church schools', which use un-inspired commentaries and historical writings of humanity to support the myths that have been handed down for generations.
 
Ret said:
I believe the only thing that continues in it's ORIGINAL position from within the 'Garden of Eden' is the TREE of LIFE...and that TREE is Jesus Christ the Son of God.

Sounds good to me! Lol. ;) :D I believe Jesus is the tree, and, we are the branches of the tree. ;) :D

Joh 15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

Rev 22:2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

;) :D
 
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