Wicked in the Bible

[EvolvingChristian]

I'm not aware of any staff member that would say they support abortion.

It wasn't a staff member.

 

[humble soul]

Trying to be a good person will not buy you a place in the New Jerusalem that God

Maybe not. But it is likely to make the world a better place to live. Certainly trying to be wicked deliberately will make the world a worse place.

 

[humble soul]

I'm not aware of any staff member that would say they support abortion.

He might be accusing me. I said some exceptions might be acceptable to God. I certainly would never promote abortion.

 

[humble soul]

Another said that they support abortion. I told them that to support abortion is, essentially, a "denial" of the faith in Jesus. I was admonished and warned and told it was a violation of the TOS.

I think you are fictionalising. Some people call it "straw man"??

 

[humble soul]

I know but the prevailing attitude among the senior staff is that one can be anything they want and, as long as they believe in Jesus, it's all good.

That's a very unfair assessment. And not true anyway.

 

[EvolvingChristian]

I think you are fictionalising. Some people call it "straw man"??

Oh, so you're calling me a liar.

 

[EvolvingChristian]

He might be accusing me. I said some exceptions might be acceptable to God. I certainly would never promote abortion.

LOL. Talk about "fiction". Thanks for the laugh!

 

[humble soul]

Oh, so you're calling me a liar.

Maybe not a deliberate one. Maybe you aren't aware of it. That's certainly possible.

 

[EvolvingChristian]

I'm assuming this was meant to be sarcastic, right?

I was using rhetoric as a way to make a point.

 

[EvolvingChristian]

That's a very unfair assessment. And not true anyway.

Perhaps I am mistaken but many Christians believe that, as long as you believe in Jesus, that's all that matters. I don't share that belief. But I also don't believe in "all-or-nothing" theology, such as the concept that a soul, on day one, goes either into eternal glory or into eternal suffering and there is no "in-between".

In other words, the belief seems to be that, if Hitler repented right before his suicide, he would not only go to paradise but he would enjoy the same glory as someone like Mother Teresa. I don't think it works that way.

 

[daninthelionsden]

Perhaps I am mistaken but many Christians believe that, as long as you believe in Jesus, that's all that matters. I don't share that belief. But I also don't believe in "all-or-nothing" theology, such as the concept that a soul, on day one, goes either into eternal glory or into eternal suffering and there is no "in-between".

In other words, the belief seems to be that, if Hitler repented right before his suicide, he would not only go to paradise but he would enjoy the same glory as someone like Mother Teresa. I don't think it works that way.

The way I look at a forum such as this is that I appreciate all viewpoints as it gives me insight/validation as to what I believe and why as opposed to what I don't believe and why. I can get triggered by a comment, but that's on me. I try not to get personally hung up on what someone else believes. I can't control them and don't want to. I don't believe in OSAS, but if someone else does, that's between them and God. Should someone be banned because they're OSAS? Pre-Trib? I don't think so. Do You?

 

[humble soul]

Perhaps I am mistaken but many Christians believe that, as long as you believe in Jesus, that's all that matters. I

I certainly don't believe it. We Catholics never ignore "works".

 

[humble soul]

In other words, the belief seems to be that, if Hitler repented right before his suicide, he would not only go to paradise but he would enjoy the same glory as someone like Mother Teresa. I don't think it works that way.

Looks like I have to agree to some extent.
One thing I feel sure about. Hitler does not escape punishment for what he did . The problem is...what punishment is suitable?
Triple eternal life in Hell?

 

[daninthelionsden]

Looks like I have to agree to some extent.
One thing I feel sure about. Hitler does not escape punishment for what he did . The problem is...what punishment is suitable?
Triple eternal life in Hell?

His suicide ensured he died in his sin.

 

[humble soul]

Hitler repenting ;
" Hey God I'm real sorry about those 6 million Jews. I promise I won't do it again. Honest."
God ;
"Okay , please say the Rosary 6 million times without stopping"

 

[for_his_glory]

That's right. One can be a serial killer but as long as they believe in Christ, they're going to be immensely rewarded in the hereafter.

You are taking what I am saying the wrong way. Unless you are Spiritually born again from above and indwelled with the Holy Spirit you will not inherit the kingdom of God. So many think if I go to church every Sunday and am a good person I will go to heaven, but that is fallible thinking as they have never been taught God's salvation and having a personal relationship with Christ. Even the devils believe in Jesus, do you think they will go to heaven?

John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
John 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Romans 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

 

[for_his_glory]

I know but the prevailing attitude among the senior staff is that one can be anything they want and, as long as they believe in Jesus, it's all good.

Sorry, but the staff does not think this way as everyone is accountable for their actions whether good or bad as one day we will all stand before the Lord in judgement as we give an account of our life. When you make statements like this you need to provide the forum and post # so we can go back and read this. You are only angry because of a few post of yours I deleted where you were making derogatory remarks against another member and their reply was also deleted.

When the ToS is violated then we alert the member of this and also let them know if they have a problem with our decision they can appeal it in Talk With the Staff section.

 

[for_his_glory]

Another said that they support abortion. I told them that to support abortion is, essentially, a "denial" of the faith in Jesus. I was admonished and warned and told it was a violation of the TOS.

Please provide the forum, thread and post where a member said this as I would like to read it.

 

[for_his_glory]

Perhaps I am mistaken but many Christians believe that, as long as you believe in Jesus, that's all that matters. I don't share that belief. But I also don't believe in "all-or-nothing" theology, such as the concept that a soul, on day one, goes either into eternal glory or into eternal suffering and there is no "in-between".

In other words, the belief seems to be that, if Hitler repented right before his suicide, he would not only go to paradise but he would enjoy the same glory as someone like Mother Teresa. I don't think it works that way.

Did God forgive your sins when you repented of them? Did God forgive the murder I witnessed Christ to in prison who accepted Jesus as his Lord and Savior after being remorseful repenting of his sin?

Sin is sin as there are none greater than another as all sin is transgression against God.

 

[EvolvingChristian]

You are taking what I am saying the wrong way.

Sorry. I wasn't being serious.