parousia70 said:
Vic C. said:
That info directly contradicts some of the things you posted earlier. For instance, you posted that Bush signed an agreement, but your latest link says there was no signed agreement by Bush at all
Great catch Vic...
NBF posted as FACT what he later posted as MYTH.
Which are we to believe?
he has yet to address this discrepancy that I can tell.
I wonder if he will?
My goodness parousia you grasp at straws,, yes my bad on the Bush issue, I was going off the CNN Lou Dobbs article and the way he reported it. The North American Union, the African Union, the South American Union, the South Asian Union, the Pacific Union, the Central Asian Union, the Arab Gulf States Union, the Caribbean Union and others are all looking at either starting or making major advancements during 2010.
That is also the midpoint of the seven year ENP agreement, which is itself a confirmation of the 1995 Barcelona Declaration. In fact, it's likely that this process will result in splitting the entire globe up into 10 distinct regions. It will also be at this point that we will see the National I.D. Card, National I.D. Cards with the RFID chip and full chipping (do not hesitate to challenge me on RFID chipping as a form of international I.D. I have endess documentation to support its here and it will be implemented. It is not a consipricy theory alternatively do your own homework.
Now on the the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America (SPP):
Myth vs. Fact. I said I would respond and I am.. I do have a day job brother. I have always been out numbered with you lot in the loins den and I have never backed down. I have been responding to the smaller posts throughout the day this was going to be the big one.
I ask you how the U.S. will be able to maintain sovereignty if there is a complete market meltdown of the U.S. economy and the countires it takes down with it. (google 60 minutes and 401k) the retirement system of the U.S. is just about broke millions of people have had almost 90% of their retirement savings wiped out. They may never get it back.
The days of the U.S. currency are just about done. China and Russia are starting to refuse the U.S. dollar completely. China’s central bank proposed replacing the US dollar as the international reserve currency with a new global system controlled by the International Monetary Fund. Both countries cry for a new world order (do you own homework if you don't beleive me). You know I just bought something from a distributor in China. I had been dealing with this company for years and paying in U.S. funds. Now I am paying in Euro. My wife also does business with China all Euro funds now.
When it all hits and it will you will see the U.S. sovereignty fade. You will see the U.S. moving closer and closer in alliance with the E.U. Yes the site does indicate they do not seek to model after the E.U. but what I have said to this point is a full fact not a conspiracy theory.
Just once I would love to argue with a preterist who actually reads a newspaper or made a serious effort to keep up todate with the current events in our world.
You know exactly where I am going with this. We are moving to a world currency, a one world religion is being started via the United Nations “Alliance of Civilizationsâ€Â. They maintain that world peace will come through religious tolerance. They seek to eliminate all “religious fundamentalism". New Age teaching is on the rise.
Time magazine did a story called "Obama's New Word Order". We can see a new world order forming. There are two world wide banking systems created, they are just waiting for the old system to crash.
We have right now Iran Russian and China forming alliances viaThe Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO). Iran is begging for full member status. Does this sound familiar to you?
I don't accept any of the views or answers from the preterist as it pertains to the mark of the beast or the antichrist in the first century. It is impossible that an antichrist in the first century could contol the buying and selling of the world. My true response "you gotta be joking"
How so if people back then were trading, bartering, using gold silver? How could it be enforced? How could it be monitored? You could take this mark and could easily buy, sell, trade without anyone knowing it. In the modern day in a cashless society you can see the difference, yes there will be barter in a modern system. But you still have to pay your taxes buy food, gas, clothes, use government services health, care school etc.. you won't survive if you don't take the mark in the modern day. The government has already imposed a tax on barter.
I just don't get with so many things matching scripture in the modern day how you can still maintain the views you do.. I will be adding to this post later in the weekend.
