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Will the Real Antichrist Please Stand Up

DavidT

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Did you know brethren in Christ that the early Church fathers understood that the coming Antichrist at the end of this world is come from among the Jews? That is what several of the early Church fathers understood. Where did they get that idea of the Antichrist being presented as one of the Jews? Here is one place in Scripture where they got that idea...

Matt 24:23-26
23
Then if any man shall say unto you, "Lo, here is Christ, or there"; believe it not.
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before.
26
Wherefore if they shall say unto you, "Behold, He is in the desert"; go not forth: "behold, He is in the secret chambers"; believe it not.
KJV

It should be obvious per Lord Jesus there in those 23rd and 26th verses that He was pointing specifically to a singular false one that others will claim is Christ. This is no doubt why Dr. James Strong in his Strong's Exhaustive Concordance defined that "false Christs" phrase as being 'a spurious Messiah' (Strong's no.5580).

Was Dr. Strong taking too much liberty in defining that Greek pseudochristos ("false Christs") word to be about a 'singular' false one? I don't think so, I believe he was right. And that because that above Scripture also aligns with the idea of a 'singular' false one coming to work those "great signs and wonders" per the 2 Thessalonians 2 Scripture, and the Revelation 13:11-14 Scripture. That also per Apostle Paul's warning about the "another Jesus" in 2 Corinthians 11 and that false one's ministers disguised as the ministers of righteousness.

Here is the meaning of Apostle John's 1 John 2:18 mention of the word "antichrist".

1 John 2:18
18 Little children, it is the last time:
and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
KJV

Some will just mention that "antichrist" word in passing about their tradition of men ideas, some applying that word to be about the wicked in general, while disregarding any idea of a singular Antichrist figure. And others, like the old Protestant Reformers, will use the Antichrist term to label a pope. Yet Apostle John made a distinction between those two above phrases, one in red, and the other in purple.

The phrase above in red is particularly interesting, because shows those he was speaking to 'already' had heard that antichrist shall come. Just where... did they first hear about that idea? Not from John here, because he is simply reminding them they had already heard about antichrist's coming, meaning a singular antichrist. Only with John's latter phrase in purple was he giving them new information that did not yet know about, with the idea of "many antichrists" already being here at work.

Where did they first hear that the singular "antichrist" shall come? I believe it was here, by Lord Jesus' Own warning:

John 14:29-30
29 And now I have told you before it come to pass, that, when it is come to pass, ye might believe.
30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you:
for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in Me.
KJV


Lord Jesus was speaking that to His disciples before being delivered up to die on the cross. He was preparing them for His leaving. Notice He said, "Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing Me." Did He simply mean the devil was getting ready to work through Judas and Pilate to deliver Him up? I don't think so. I believe He was warning that after His departure, the devil was coming to our world. Lord Jesus did reveal the devil would be cast out:

John 12:31
31 Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.
KJV


Lord Jesus also said that above just prior to His being delivered up to be crucified. Many believe He meant that in the sense of the devil being judged at the point of Christ's death on the cross, and proclaiming victory to the spirits in prison. But notice He said, "Now is the judgment of this world". We know that Satan has already been judged and sentenced to perish in the future "lake of fire", but has this present world been judged yet? No, not yet, not if you believe the battle of Armageddon on the last day when Jesus returns has already happened (and yet some believe that very falsehood that Jesus' 2nd coming was past history, called Full Preterism).

How then did our Lord Jesus mean that, "now shall the prince of this world be cast out"? What is that, and when is that?

Lord Jesus actually showed us in the Revelation 12:7-17 Scripture, about the war in Heaven between Archangel Michael and his angels vs. Satan and his angels. We are then shown when that happens, there will be no more place found in Heaven for Satan and his angels. And that means there is only one other place they can be cast to, and that is in our earthly dimension. Thus what Lord Jesus revealed about the prince of this world cometh, is that the devil himself is coming to our earthly dimension for the last days leading up to Christ's future return.

In my next post, I will give Scripture proof that God's Word does indeed reveal that Satan himself, in person, is coming to earth in our presence, and will be seen with the image of man.
 
Continued...

Rev 9:1-2
9 And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.
2 And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.
KJV


It should be easy to understand who this star is that fell from heaven unto the earth. To him is given that key to open that bottomless pit:

Isa 14:12
12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
KJV

Luke 10:18
18 And He said unto them, "I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven."
KJV


That was about the time of Satan's original rebellion when he was first cast out of Heaven, but not the Revelation 12:7-17 events, which are only for the very end of this world. Per the Book of Job, we know Satan was still allowed to appear before God's Throne in Heaven, to accuse Job. Only with the fulfillment of the future Rev.12:7-17 casting out will Satan never be allowed to appear before God's Throne again and accuse us.

Thus that Revelation 9 Scripture is the very first mention of that "bottomless pit" in God's Word, representing Satan's abode in the heavenly that he is over. That pit of course is hinted at earlier in God's Word, also using the idea of a heavenly prison, like at the end of Isaiah 24. The pit prison idea is also used in The New Testament about the dead who died prior to Christ's 1st coming, to whom He went to the "spirits in prison" after His resurrection and preached The Gospel to, leading the prisoners out, so they might live according to God in the spirit (1 Peter 3; 1 Peter 4; Isaiah 42:7; also see Revelation 20:7).

Rev 9:11
11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.
KJV


The Revelation 9:1 verse revealed who that "angel of the bottomless pit", for those paying attention. It was the one it said was like a star that fell from Heaven, which is about Satan's original fall. So this shouldn't be difficult to understand about these other titles we are shown Satan has here. The title of "Apollyon" is from the Greek base apollumi which means to perish fully. God's Word through Lord Jesus and Apostle Paul has already revealed to us the "son of perdition" term, first applied to Judas (because Jesus said in John 6:70 that Judas is a devil, and secondly because that "son of perdition" title is simply another name for Satan himself. This "Apollyon" title is a direct link to that "son of perdition" idea. Why?

It because like Lord Jesus said, the prince of this world has already been judged. And Lord Jesus' crucifixion definitely sealed the judgment and sentencing of Satan to perish in the future "lake of fire". And did you know, that only Satan and his angels as of today, are the only ones already judged and sentenced to perish in the future "lake of fire"? No flesh born man has been judged to perish yet, even though God's Word shows some will perish in that fire at the end. The Great White Throne Judgment is when Christ will make that decision about those born in the flesh who will perish in the "lake of fire" with Satan, death, and the abode of hell (Revelation 20).

Guess where that revealing about the "son of perdition" being another title for Satan himself takes us?

2 Thess 2:3-4
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed,
the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
KJV


That "son of perdition" we know isn't about Judas Iscariot, because Judas was already dead when Apostle Paul gave that future prophecy there. Revelation 9:11 pointed to the idea of "Apollyon", as a link to the idea of Satan's future sentencing to perish in the lake of fire, so who would this one be? It is about Satan himself as that future "son of perdition" that will appear in Jerusalem at the end, and sit in a new temple there, and proclaim himself as God, and over all that is called God, or that is worshipped. There... is the true Biblical Antichrist.

Is more revealed about this angel over the bottomless pit? Yes!

Rev 11:7-8
7 And when they shall have finished their testimony,
the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
KJV


That's about God's two witnesses appearing in Jerusalem for the very end of this world, given to prophesy for 1260 days against the beast. Note who kills them there in Jerusalem, where our Lord Jesus was crucified. Now that 'angel' over the bottomless pit is called there "the beast"! Where else in God's Word have we been shown about that "beast" working for the end?

Rev 17:8
8
The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
KJV


I strongly believe our Lord Jesus has been very good to us here, revealing how it will be Satan himself as this coming "beast", or angel king over the bottomless pit. In this Revelation 17 Chapter, one must be very careful understanding about this 'beast' idea, because two types of beasts are taught in Christ's Revelation. One beast type is about the kingdom, which is the subject of verse Revelation 17:7 just prior to this, speaking of the seven heads and ten horns (see also Revelation 13). In this Revelation 17 Chapter, various aspects of the two Revelation 13 beasts are being revealed.

Who is the real "son of perdition" in the above 8th verse again? Satan himself, that title linked to his other name, Greek "Apollyon" which means 'perdition'. And who is that beast that ascends out of the bottomless pit? Satan again. This is pointing to the 'beast king' concept of Revelation 13:11-13 about the "another beast" that comes working the miracles and wonders.

Rev 17:10-11
10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.
11 And
the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.
KJV


That "beast" idea is pointing back to the 8th verse "beast" that does what again? That shall "ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition", meaning into the future "lake of fire'. In that 11th verse, we are being shown that "beast" is actually a king. So there's the 'beast king' idea of the Book of Daniel, Nebuchadnezzar even having been assigned to live like a wild beast before he believe on The Father (see Daniel 4, actually written by Nebuchadnezzar himself).

Rev 17:12
12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.
KJV


Those ten kings will reign with that "beast", i.e, Satan as the beast king, for "one hour" with him at the end, and will give their power to him. That is Satan as that "another beast" of Revelation 13:11-14 that will come and work miracles on earth, raining fire from heaven down to the earth in sight of men.

In Revelation 20 we are given one final Scripture about the "bottomless pit" and Satan being locked in his pit prison there throughout that "thousand years" of Christ's initial reign over the unsaved nations. At the end of that "thousand years", we are shown Satan being loosed out of his pit prison one final time, to go tempt the unsaved nations.
 
It should be obvious per Lord Jesus there in those 23rd and 26th verses that He was pointing specifically to a singular false one that others will claim is Christ. This is no doubt why Dr. James Strong in his Strong's Exhaustive Concordance defined that "false Christs" phrase as being 'a spurious Messiah' (Strong's no.5580).


So you saying that any false Christ can only be a Jew.
 
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
Quote From Wkpd: Modern False Messiah: Sun Myung Moon

"Moon's claim to be the Messiah and the Second Coming of Christ has been disputed by both Jewish and Christian scholars.[166][167] The Divine Principle was labeled as heretical by Protestant churches in South Korea, including Moon's own Presbyterian Church. In the United States it was rejected by ecumenical organizations as being non-Christian.[3] Protestant commentators have also criticized Moon's teachings as being contrary to the Protestant doctrine of salvation by faith alone.[168][169]"
 
So you saying that any false Christ can only be a Jew.
It is impossible for anyone to get that idea you are saying from I wrote above. So what's your real purpose for trying to throw that idea at me?

FYI, some of the early Church fathers even declared the Antichrist would be born of the tribe of Dan. But of course I do NOT believe that.

I don't believe the coming Antichrist, i.e., Satan himself, is going to be born of anybody. That's why I say it's impossible for you idea to be applied to me.
 
Quote From Wkpd: Modern False Messiah: Sun Myung Moon

"Moon's claim to be the Messiah and the Second Coming of Christ has been disputed by both Jewish and Christian scholars.[166][167] The Divine Principle was labeled as heretical by Protestant churches in South Korea, including Moon's own Presbyterian Church. In the United States it was rejected by ecumenical organizations as being non-Christian.[3] Protestant commentators have also criticized Moon's teachings as being contrary to the Protestant doctrine of salvation by faith alone.[168][169]"
Yeah, Moon did claim to be Jesus, as many others in history have also made that claim. Where was that prophecy about many that would come saying "I am Christ" written? Here...

Matt 24:4-5
4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, "Take heed that no man deceive you.
5 For many shall come in my name, saying, 'I am Christ'; and shall deceive many."
KJV


Was that above Scripture His warning about the coming false one for the end which will place the "abomination of desolation" in Jerusalem? No, because His warning about the one who places the abomination idol occurs later in His Olivet discourse. What's the difference then?

Matt 24:23-26
23 Then if any man shall say unto you, "Lo, here is Christ", or there; believe it not.
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets,
and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before.
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, "Behold, He is in the desert; go not forth: "behold, He is in the secret chambers"; believe it not.
KJV


The Matthew 24:23-26 Scripture is a different kind of warning though, because He showed this one here is a particular single pseudo-Christ that will have power to work "great signs and wonders" that IF it were possible, he would deceive even Christ's very elect (which cannot be deceived by the way).

The KJV phrase "false Christs" is the Greek word pseudochristos, made up from two Greek words, pseudo which means false or fake, and christos which is singular for Christ. This is why Dr. James Strong in his Strong's Exhaustive Concordance defined that pseudochristos as 'a spurious Messiah'. And the context of those Matthew 24:23-26 verses are definitely singular.

What Jesus showed there is a parallel to what Apostle John said in 1 John 2:18 about the "antichrist". In the first part John pointed to a singular "antichrist" they had already heard shall come. But in the second part John told them that there already "many antichrists" at work. Thus the subject is about 'the Antichrist' and his many followers the "many antichrists", the many applying to those like Moon.

Likewise in 2 Thessalonians 2, Apostle Paul made a distinction between that "man of sin" and the "mystery of iniquity" he said was already at work. He was applying this distinction also that Jesus gave about the difference between the 'many' that claim to be Christ, vs. the actual false one coming at the end that will have the power of miracles and wonders to show he is Christ, and will sit in the temple in Jerusalem.
 
I don't believe the coming Antichrist, i.e., Satan himself, is going to be born of anybody. That's why I say it's impossible for you idea to be applied to me.
Yeah, so Satan gets split in half when he is in a different place from the beast and the false prophet while they are in the Lake of Fire and he is in the bottomless pit. Amazing huh!

Rev 19:19-20 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army. (20) And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

Rev 20:1-3
And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. (2) And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, (3) And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

Rev 20:7-10 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, (8) And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. (9) And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. (10) And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
 
Did you know brethren in Christ that the early Church fathers understood that the coming Antichrist at the end of this world is come from among the Jews? That is what several of the early Church fathers understood. Where did they get that idea of the Antichrist being presented as one of the Jews?
It was obvious this antichrist would be a Jew because Jesus was speaking directly to the elite Jewish leaders who were seeking to destroy Him in reference to their rejection of Himself as their Jewish Messiah and their choosing of a another yet to come Jewish Messiah, who will build the third Jewish Temple and reestablish the sacrifice.


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Jhn 5:43
"I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive"
 
It is impossible for anyone to get that idea you are saying from I wrote above. So what's your real purpose for trying to throw that idea at me?

FYI, some of the early Church fathers even declared the Antichrist would be born of the tribe of Dan. But of course I do NOT believe that.

I don't believe the coming Antichrist, i.e., Satan himself, is going to be born of anybody. That's why I say it's impossible for you idea to be applied to me.

Do you believe the antichrist will be a Jew?
 
It is impossible for anyone to get that idea you are saying from I wrote above. So what's your real purpose for trying to throw that idea at me?

That was the thing that jumped off the page at me too. It was one of your first points. So I wouldn't say impossible, lol.
 
I think there's only one spirit of anti Christ. But as we well know from the NT, spirits need a body to possess. So for them to be able to roll out the antichrist, they have to have a body for him to walk out on stage in.

So there have been many antichrists. Satan doesn't know what God is going to do before he does it. So they have had to keep a man in the bleachers ready to roll him out upon certain events. And men's bodies age so he has to be replaced every generation or so.

Who do they have ready right now? Some say Obama but I don't believe that. My understanding is that antichrist will be a likable and charismatic fellow. And that sure aint Obama.
 
The anti-christ is the one who will cause what no mere human being has ever been able to do, establish a peace with
all the nation Israel's enemies that surround it .
Not only a peace but a peace that allows a third Jewish temple to be built on the Temple mount .
The nation Israel will trust no one but a fellow jew in brokering this peace with it's arch enemies.
 
Yeah, so Satan gets split in half when he is in a different place from the beast and the false prophet while they are in the Lake of Fire and he is in the bottomless pit. Amazing huh!
Sorry, but that above statement does not make sense to me.

There is no Bible evidence that anyone in the Heavenly must put on a flesh human body just to appear on earth in our dimension. Believing that a flesh body is required, means the Bible student has not understood how the heavenly can be manifest upon this earth. Afterall, per Genesis 2, God's Garden of Eden was once upon this earth, and wherever His Eden is, that is where He is. Revelation also reveals that He is to return to this earth in the future new heavens and new earth also, and I mean the full Godhead, meaning The Father and The Son, on this earth. That reveals the heavenly realm can manifest upon this earth, both together in the same space and time.

Furthermore, the "lake of fire" is NOT... the "bottomless pit", nor Hades (i.e., most often translated "hell" in the KJV). The future "lake of fire" is a fire of destruction, not the abode of the wicked called hell, or hades. We know this because at the end of Revelation 20, that the abode of hell, and death, perish in that future "lake of fire".
 
It was obvious this antichrist would be a Jew because Jesus was speaking directly to the elite Jewish leaders who were seeking to destroy Him in reference to their rejection of Himself as their Jewish Messiah and their choosing of a another yet to come Jewish Messiah, who will build the third Jewish Temple and reestablish the sacrifice.


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Jhn 5:43
"I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive"
God's blessings be upon you, because He showed you the meaning of that John 5:43 verse about the coming false Messiah.
 
Do you believe the antichrist will be a Jew?
No. I believe he will be 'presented' as Jewish though, since the Old Testament prophecy is about Messiah originating from the tribe of Judah.

This is why it is impossible for the pseudo-Christ Jesus forewarned of could ever be a pope representing Christianity (even though a pope in that future time may very well be deceived, just as many brethren likely will be also in that future time, and bow to the wrong Christ.)
 
That was the thing that jumped off the page at me too. It was one of your first points. So I wouldn't say impossible, lol.
Not possible that the coming Antichrist will be born of flesh woman. That doctrine is a tradition from men, and not from God's written Word. It's because many do not stay in God's Word, particularly Christ's Book of Revelation which reveals that coming pseudo-Christ will be Satan himself, here on earth, in plain sight. This is why in Ezekiel 28:18 we are shown how his destruction will take place right here on earth, in view of all that see him.
 
I think there's only one spirit of anti Christ. But as we well know from the NT, spirits need a body to possess. So for them to be able to roll out the antichrist, they have to have a body for him to walk out on stage in.
Show me where that part in bold is written in God's Word, and I'll believe it.
 
Show me where that part in bold is written in God's Word, and I'll believe it.

That was one of Jesus and His Disciples main activities, casting out evil spirits.

I may have more studying to do in Revelation & Ezekial, but I've been through demonology and Genesis 6 and all of that. All of those NT incidents of them casting spirits out of possessed people, where did they come from to be out there possessing all of the pople so much?

They are the spirits of the dead Nephilim. Let's look at

Mark 5
1 And they came over unto the other side of the sea, into the country of the Gadarenes.

2 And when he was come out of the ship, immediately there met him out of the tombs a man with an unclean spirit,

3 Who had his dwelling among the tombs; and no man could bind him, no, not with chains:

4 Because that he had been often bound with fetters and chains, and the chains had been plucked asunder by him, and the fetters broken in pieces: neither could any man tame him.../

Ok so he had an unclean spirit. No man could tame him. When spirits possess a person and have a body it's like they are superhuman. But when they are cast out and have no body to possess, they are generally benign and can't do much.

Matthew 12
43 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none.

44 Then he saith, I will return into my house from whence I came out; and when he is come, he findeth it empty, swept, and garnished.../

So it's a small leap to see that...they need a body.

Satan himself may not, but Satan is a fallen Angel and he is not a Nephilim.
 
The Bible never defines just one antichrist, but says even now there are many and in the end of days will be the last time, 1 John 2:18. We have to remember that Satan is a created spirit and needs to work through others in order to build his literal kingdom here on earth as the war in heaven between Michael and Satan has not happened yet, Rev 12:7-12. This will be a Luciferian system of political, economic, military, educational and false religious power that will sit upon the mount of the congregation in the sides of the north which is Jerusalem on the same Temple mount of God where the Dome of the Rock is being refurbished for the son of perdition to take its seat. This power of the beast out of the sea gives power to the beast out of the earth who will control the government of every nation and even now works its iniquity in the world, Rev 13.

The beast that will rise up out of the sea, as the sea here is symbolic of people and nations as in a sea of humanity, Daniel Chapter 7:1-8; Revelation 17:15, gives power to the beast that comes up out of the earth who is the last antichrist/ false prophet/son of perdition. His works is the abomination that causes desolation that Jesus forewarned us of in Matthew 24:15 and Daniel who explained this last of the seven remaining nations that still exist today and has always persecuted God's people from the time of Babylon up to present day unto the end of days, Daniel Chapter 7:1-8; Matthew 24:15; Revelation 13; Revelation 17:15. This will be the time of the greatest falling away from truth as this last antichrist, through lying signs and wonders will promise peace and safety and then sudden destruction comes upon them who bow down and takes the mark of this beast, 1 Thessalonians 5:1-6.

Jesus said those who will endure in the faith of Christ unto the end the same shall be saved, Matthew 24:13. Satan said, I will ascend into heaven; I will exalt my throne above the stars of God (other ruling powers) I will sit also upon the Mount of the Congregation in the sides of the north (Jerusalem). I will ascend above the clouds, I will be like the Most High, Isaiah 14:12-15. The last antichrist, (as there have been many and even now are in the world), is the son of perdition being the false prophet that Satan works through as he will sit on the sides of the North declaring himself as being God and will cause many to bow down to him and take his mark as many will believe the lying signs and wonders he will show, Rev 13. Again, nowhere in scripture does it capitalize antichrist, but mans misinterpretations capitalize it and makes it one Antichrist that we are to watch for before Christ returns.

2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God. 5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? 6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. 7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. 8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
 
No. I believe he will be 'presented' as Jewish though, since the Old Testament prophecy is about Messiah originating from the tribe of Judah.

That’s reasonable.


The Jews are meticulous at checking bloodlines, for these matters though.



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