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Yeshua or Jesus ?

Lewis

Lewis

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What is the real name of Jesus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOv43hfGQe0
Is Jesus' name really Yeshua?




A lot of people, including some Messianic Jews (Jews who believe Jesus is the Messiah), will call Jesus by a different name: Yeshua (Hebrew יֵשׁוּעַ). They say that Yeshua is the Jewish name that Jesus would have been called by those who knew him. Some messianics and other groups say that Yeshua is Jesus' real name and that the name "Jesus" is wrong. Others say it is okay to use either one. But then again, there are those who say that the word "Jesus" is pagan in origin and should not be used at all. And if that weren't enough, some say that "Jesus" is derived from "Zeus" and really means "hail Zeus." With all these possibilities is there a real answer to what was the Messiah's real name? Yes, there is. It is found in the New Testament.
The New Testament was written in Greek. If there were any original documents of the New Testament written in Hebrew we don't have them. At best, some theorize that there might have been a gospel or two written in Hebrew. If that is the case, there is no way to know. The fact is we don't have any Hebrew manuscripts. We only have Greek ones from that period of time.
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Since what we do have is the Greek Manuscripts, it is from them that we need to find out what the Apostles wrote about Jesus. In other words, we need to make a case out of what we do have, not what we don't have.
Doing a computer search in the Greek New Testament, the word "Jesus" occurs over 900 times. Following is a chart that lays this out.
What does the Greek actually say?

The Greek word for Jesus is Iησοῦς. It is pronounced as "eeaysoos." When "eeaysoos" was transliterated into the English long ago it became Jesus, the term we use in English today.
Some say that if we don't pronounce Jesus' name properly (either as Yeshua and or Eeaysoos) then we are in sin and serving a false god, but that accusation cannot be made from scripture. It is not the pronunciation of a word that makes us Christian or not. It is receiving the messiah, God in flesh, by faith that makes us a Christian. Likewise, must we say "theos" when saying "God" since that is how the word is pronounced in Greek? Or what about when we call Jesus the "Savior" as in Phil. 3:20, must we pronounce the word as it is in Greek (sotare) or is it okay to use the English word "savior?"
The entire New Testament was written in Greek and the word Jesus is the word that is used. It is not the Hebrew יֵשׁוּעַ which is Yeshua. So, it is simple. Jesus is properly called Jesus.

  • "And she will bear a Son; and you shall call His name Jesus, for it is He who will save His people from their sins," (Matt. 1:21).
  • "The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God," (Mark 1:1).
  • "let it be known to all of you, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ the Nazarene, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead—by this name this man stands here before you in good health. 11 “He is the stone which was rejected by you, the builders, but which became the very corner stone. 12 “And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men, by which we must be saved," (Acts 4:10-12).
  • Paul, a bond-servant of Christ Jesus, acalled as an apostle, set apart for the gospel of God, (Rom. 1:1).
  • "But we do see Him who was made for a little while lower than the angels, namely, Jesus, because of the suffering of death crowned with glory and honor, so that by the grace of God He might taste death for everyone," (Heb. 2:9).
  • "The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show to His bond-servants, the things which must shortly take place; and He sent and communicated it by His angel to His bond-servant John," (Rev. 1:1).
As you can see, the New Testament uses "Jesus" as the name and not a Hebrew name. For people to say that Jesus' real name is Yashua or Yahusha or Yahushua, etc., is Jesus' real name is just a statement of pushing an agenda and not believing the New Testament text.
http://carm.org/jesus-name-really-yeshua
 
But the truth is, they did not call him Jesus whe He walked the earth. they called Him Yeshua

 
bah, a bunch of gentiles who are legalists. old argument. i don't like the greek language but im not god. God allowed and planned for the greek to be used as he had to since well gentiles then spoke and conversed in greek. i am NOT going to call any person who calls on the hellenised name of the Lord a lost person.
just like if the germans call the name of YHWH, Jehova, that isn't a sin to me.
 
ok, so a Christian should know and speak Hebrew since well God name isn't God , allah, Dios or el Senor Jesus Christo, Jehova?all however is from what i hear used by the arab Christians they do call him that but its not to be associated with allah of the Islamic faith. allah is related to the word el. which does mean god. as in the bethel. house of God. beit being house, and el being God.
feel free to call him any of the above, but don't be so legal about it. i could go there about elohim being a borrowed Chaldean word.arabic, aramiac and Hebrew are related languages.
 
I use both names' it's a personal choice. But I always remember that Jesus is not His real name, because they did not call him that when He walked the earth. If you use the name Jesus' He ain't mad about it, because He knows you are refering to Him.
 
Lewis W said:
I use both names' it's a personal choice. But I always remember that Jesus is not His real name, because they did not call him that when He walked the earth. If you use the name Jesus' He ain't mad about it, because He knows you are refering to Him.
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i agree jesus meets us where we are at and theres no legal requirement for salvation to learn and speak Hebrew fluently.
 
Praise Giêsu!

Stupid and legalistic arguments like this divide people, don't let that happen in this thread.

Praise Jezusi!
 
Good grief I speak English . If I was Spanish I would say Jesus they way they do... How is His name said in German? Yiddish, Aramaic I am so thankful He looks on the heart.
 
[MENTION=47381]reba[/MENTION], theres no Yiddish word for God. that is Hebrew language with german, French etc so that the jews could talk in code and meet and do the rites and not be killed. Yiddish is the for the streets and Hebrew is for the temple. jews would simply say the Heshem when they do say that name. Heshem means the Name or the Lord. think like this. like the name Voldemort was not to be said in Harry Potter that is kinda of how jews do that. they do it not for fear but for reverence.
 
Lewis W said:
This is a very interesting read on this topic.
http://www.bibletruth.cc/Body_The_Messiahs_Name.htm
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" When calling upon the name which is above every name, I'm certain that we want to be calling upon the correct name. There are many other names which make claim to be great. Let's not make the mistake of calling upon our Messiah in the wrong name. If we call upon a name which is the name of a false deity, we can't be sure of what response we might get. Nor could we be sure of who is responding.

The Messiah of Scripture has a real name. It is not Jesus. His real name, the name which we should be pronouncing with our lips, is the name Yahusha. When you call upon the name of the Messiah, be sure to use his real name. Yahusha is his name."

The bold part is suggesting those who called upon Jesus, may not have really been Jesus. Let's not get to legalistic in our thinking, remember it was God who changed the languages. But also the language will be restored. In the meantime, let this discussion die.
 
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