John MacArthur: Distinguished Calvinist Preacher.

[jeremiah1five]

Gosh Jeremiah.
I've posted many pages.
If YOU asked ME a question I wouldn't send you to a thread of mine. I'd reply to your question and give my thoughts even more exposure.

But hey, it's your prerogative not to answer me.

And we'll never know if I understand it and how important little ole' me thinks your idea is.

Hey, little ole' me...It's in the Theology Forum.

 

[journeyman]

John MacArthur . . . .
(John Fullerton MacArthur Jr.)

. . . . is a very distinguished Christian pastor, expository preacher and Reformed Calvinist

I used to listen to John MacArthur, until I saw the error of so called reformed theology.

systematic theologian.

He is also an excellent primitive traditional Patriarchal Family man. He is married to his
wife Patricia and they have four children, fifteen gradchildren and two great-grandsons.

John MacArthur has pastored Grace Community Church in California since February 1969 --
that's 54 years.

He has written or edited over 150 books -- the most popular is the MacArthur Study Bible
which has sold over 1,000,000 copies.

The good news is John MacArthur is a strong Bible believing Reformed Presbyterian Calvinist.

The bad news is his defeatist eschatology -- sadly he holds the doomsday Premillennial
Dispensational view of the future of the Christian Church -- BUT NOBODY IS PERFECT.

John MacArthur is an excellent expository preacher. That means, unlike a huge number of
preachers he is short on giving you his personal OPINIONS nd long on giving you what the
Bible ACTUALLY SAYS.

John MacArthur has a large number of expository video sermons on YouTube. Here is one of
them:

Thoughts?

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[donadams]

Yes.
We are commanded to learn the Scripture.
We are commanded to get the knowledge of the Scripture.
And with all our getting get wisdom and understanding.

Then how can you believe in the reformation since the Bible is your sole authority and it never authorized a reformation?
Thanks

 

[donadams]

Are you joking? WWII was fought because Germany marched into various neighboring countries. Do you really need me to provide evidence of this? Really??

So? Why is that important?

It’s immaterial.

What was your point so I can argue against the right one?



You 2

Wars are the result of sin!

 

[donadams]

I am reminded of J. I. Packer. A staunch Calvinist who leans on Puritan Theology (which was purest than today's garbage), but lately Packer has been very involved in something called Evangelists and Catholics Together (ECT), which he is spearheading this new joining of Protestants and Catholics.
I think we need pray for this man.

I too oppose this but from the catholic side

 

[donadams]

Wars are the result of sin!

The French Revolution and the American Revolution are the same Revolution
Same colors
Same mottos
Same anti-God anti-Christ Freemasons behind both

 

[GodsGrace]

I used to listen to John MacArthur, until I saw the error of so called reformed theology.

Reformed theology creates a lot of biblical conflict.
I point it out when I see it.

 

[donadams]

Reformed theology creates a lot of biblical conflict.
I point it out when I see it.

Truth is divine and immutable
The truth and the church are of Christ and ir-reformable
The truth is not something but somebody Jesus Christ Jn 14:6

 

[GodsGrace]

Truth is divine and immutable
The truth and the church are of Christ and ir-reformable
The truth is not something but somebody Jesus Christ Jn 14:6

Well Don,
Here's the problem as I see it:

The reformation was to reform the church, small c. It was necessary but unfortunate because of the wars it caused.

The problem is that some of The Truth was also changed/reformed. New and different doctrine began to be taught by those that had the power and charisma to do so. Each began his own little group, known as a denomination, and so it went.

With no Pope at the helm, things got out of hand.

With a Pope at the helm things became authoritarian.

Thus necessitating the Reformation.

 

[jasonc]

Well Don,
Here's the problem as I see it:

The reformation was to reform the church, small c. It was necessary but unfortunate because of the wars it caused.

The problem is that some of The Truth was also changed/reformed. New and different doctrine began to be taught by those that had the power and charisma to do so. Each began his own little group, known as a denomination, and so it went.

With no Pope at the helm, things got out of hand.

With a Pope at the helm things became authoritarian.

Thus necessitating the Reformation.

A bit more then that


Anglican in England ,not reformed in nature

See the bishop wars that led to the church of Scotland that was reformed thus the London baptism confession and Westminster one

Add that in Americas to live the spanish terrority you had be a Catholic .

The French certainly weren't at times and the French were killed for it by the Spanish .the crown of England was more tolerable of them with the colonial charter of ga where the only Catholics allowed was there and that large parish is still there .not far from the oldest but but the first Jewish synagogue in Savannah.

It really got crazy in the late 1800s.

Ga has one hundred plus old churches still active or dead and empty and their stories to be found .north Florida has some .

My in laws lie in a cemetery whose maintained by a church formed in 1875 ..still active .

 

[GodsGrace]

A bit more then that


Anglican in England ,not reformed in nature

See the bishop wars that led to the church of Scotland that was reformed thus the London baptism confession and Westminster one

Add that in Americas to live the spanish terrority you had be a Catholic .

The French certainly weren't at times and the French were killed for it by the Spanish .the crown of England was more tolerable of them with the colonial charter of ga where the only Catholics allowed was there and that large parish is still there .not far from the oldest but but the first Jewish synagogue in Savannah.

It really got crazy in the late 1800s.

Ga has one hundred plus old churches still active or dead and empty and their stories to be found .north Florida has some .

My in laws lie in a cemetery whose maintained by a church formed in 1875 ..still active .

Agreed.
The Anglicans are a weird bunch.
Thank you King Henry VIII.

 

[jasonc]

Agreed.
The Anglicans are a weird bunch.
Thank you King Henry VIII.

Nazarene church a variant of Anglican movement known as Methodism.

Wesley didn't want a seperation but to reform the Anglican movement .
His students brook away .the war with England kinda didn't help

 

[Free]

I am reminded of J. I. Packer. A staunch Calvinist who leans on Puritan Theology (which was purest than today's garbage), but lately Packer has been very involved in something called Evangelists and Catholics Together (ECT), which he is spearheading this new joining of Protestants and Catholics.
I think we need pray for this man.

You don't seem to know that he died 3 years ago. And it's Evangelicals and Catholics Together.

 

[jeremiah1five]

Then how can you believe in the reformation since the Bible is your sole authority and it never authorized a reformation?
Thanks

Of course the Bible is about reformation.
Being born-again is a reforming.

 

[jeremiah1five]

You don't seem to know that he died 3 years ago. And it's Evangelicals and Catholics Together.

I did not know that.
Thanks.

 

[donadams]

Well Don,
Here's the problem as I see it:

The reformation was to reform the church, small c. It was necessary but unfortunate because of the wars it caused.

The problem is that some of The Truth was also changed/reformed. New and different doctrine began to be taught by those that had the power and charisma to do so. Each began his own little group, known as a denomination, and so it went.

With no Pope at the helm, things got out of hand.

With a Pope at the helm things became authoritarian.

Thus necessitating the Reformation.

But truth and the church from God and immutable

The church is a kingdom
Christ exercised authority
His ministers exercise authority
No problem with proper authority

 

[GodsGrace]

But truth and the church from God and immutable

The church is a kingdom
Christ exercised authority
His ministers exercise authority
No problem with proper authority

I agree that Jesus meant to create His Kingdom here on earth. But it's a spiritual kingdom, but one nonetheless. With a population, a King and rules to keep.

There is no problem with proper authority.
But authority seems to affect humans in a negative way. I'm sorry to say that even Christians became ingrained in the machinery of power.

And the CC is the most powerful church.
Although the church will be holy, many in it are corrupt even to this day.

If the CC had remained as it was at the beginning we never would have needed a reformation.

I do believe the CC is Apostolic in succession and it saddens me to think of the changes it went through over the centuries.

 

[journeyman]

Reformed theology creates a lot of biblical conflict.
I point it out when I see it.

Yes it does wondering. If scripture seems to disagree with what Jesus taught, something is wrong with the persons understanding of scripture.

 

[GodsGrace]

Yes it does wondering. If scripture seems to disagree with what Jesus taught, something is wrong with the persons understanding of scripture.

Yes.
It goes beyond interpretation.
Plain verses are made to conform with doctrine instead of the other way around.

Take Eph 2,8
Clear as day.
We are saved by Grace
Through faith

What comes first?
We are saved through faith.
So faith must come first.
Then we're saved.
By God's grace.

MacArthur is needed to explain Eph 2,8??
He says salvation must come first and then faith. Where are the Bareans?!

 

[journeyman]

Yes.
It goes beyond interpretation.
Plain verses are made to conform with doctrine instead of the other way around.

Take Eph 2,8
Clear as day.
We are saved by Grace
Through faith

What comes first?
We are saved through faith.
So faith must come first.
Then we're saved.
By God's grace.

MacArthur is needed to explain Eph 2,8??
He says salvation must come first and then faith. Where are the Bareans?!

The grace sinners are saved by is that while he was on earth, the Son of God turned his wrath away from people who deserved death.
Our Savior suffered because of the sins mankind committed.....against him.