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When it takes the place of the Creator its not evolution, its substitution. And Christians need to grasp that...Since evolution is directly observed in populations constantly, I think your guys probably don't know what evolution is. I suppose they could be lying or deluded...
What do you think it is?
So when we discovered that lighting is caused by air movement in the atmosphere, rather than God tossing bolts at His enemies, it's not meteorology, it's substitution? How silly. The only difference is, your new doctrines aren't opposed to an informed understanding of lightning.When it takes the place of the Creator its not evolution, its substitution.
Sounds like selective faith, to me. Evolution is an observed phenomenon. Why not accept that God created the world to work as He intended?And Christians need to grasp that...
So when we discovered that lighting is caused by air movement in the atmosphere, rather than God tossing bolts at His enemies, it's not meteorology, it's substitution? How silly. The only difference is, your new doctrines aren't opposed to an informed understanding of lightning.
Sounds like selective faith, to me. Evolution is an observed phenomenon. Why not accept that God created the world to work as He intended?
Yeah it has, multiple times. I posted some examples here:Macro evolution between species has not been observed.
Rather it is strange how often 'Christians" who object to evolution, denigrate God. God created the world to function according to His will. So its not "denigrating God" to show that lightning or evolution are natural processes. That's why He created nature.Strange how ' Christians ' who believe in evolution denigrate God.
I've shown you that He does. Where we differ is that I realize that He doesn't have to do this to make it work. Miracles are to teach us something, not because God had to tinker with creation to keep it working. Have a little more faith in God, and this will cease to trouble you.Do you really believe that God cannot, has not intervened in events in the world.
You have that wrong, too. Science does not, and cannot rule out miracles.As a Christian you and I believe what science says is impossible.
I looked at the topics. Unless I missed one, all I saw were reporting changes within the species. That is micro evolution. The evidence for it is clearly there.Yeah it has, multiple times. I posted some examples here:
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Nope. Every one of them is a documented case of the evolution of a new species. That's why I posted them in the first place.I looked at the topics. Unless I missed one, all I saw were reporting changes within the species.
FYI, "dog" and "cat" are not species designations. Dogs (canids) are a taxonomic family, as are cats (felids).Dogs don't become cats. Cats don't become dogs.
Even many YE creationists now admit macroevoutionary change:I looked at the topics. Unless I missed one, all I saw were reporting changes within the species. That is micro evolution. The evidence for it is clearly there.
None of them show a transformation, or transition, from an existing species to a new, different species.
There is nothing that I have seen that documents this transition.
New animal species rarely evolve from hybridization of two other species, although it occasionally happens. It's more common in plants. Would you like to learn more about it?Change from two distinctly different species do not change into a reproducible third distinct species.
I'm guessing you have no idea about what evolution is, since you declined to answer the question. That doesn't surprise anyone.When it takes the place of the Creator its not evolution, its substitution.
The "speciation" of animal kind, which human kind does not need.Since evolution is directly observed in populations constantly, I think your guys probably don't know what evolution is. I suppose they could be lying or deluded...
What do you think it is?
Human evolution is different from the evolution of other animals? Show us that with evidence.The "speciation" of animal kind, which human kind does not need.
We don't actually know that. The flood certainly was not worldwide, nor does the Bible say it was. But it could have been an allegory. It really doesn't matter. People who worry about whether it was a literal flood or an allegory miss the entire message God is giving us within the story.The flood story is an allegory. We are not all descended from members of Noah's family who must have had incestuous relationships if the flood story is history.
That's not to say there is not a historical basis for all the flood stories around the world.
your belief, not fact.The flood story is an allegory. We are not all descended from members of Noah's family who must have had incestuous relationships if the flood story is history.
That's not to say there is not a historical basis for all the flood stories around the world.
observed by whom??Since evolution is directly observed in populations constantly, I think your guys probably don't know what evolution is. I suppose they could be lying or deluded...
What do you think it is?
You are being obtuse. Lighting happens multiple times, and it is observational science. NOT speculating about "monke into man over million millennia!!"So when we discovered that lighting is caused by air movement in the atmosphere, rather than God tossing bolts at His enemies, it's not meteorology, it's substitution? How silly. The only difference is, your new doctrines aren't opposed to an informed understanding of lightning.
Sounds like selective faith, to me. Evolution is an observed phenomenon. Why not accept that God created the world to work as He intended?
An allegory is not a lie.your belief, not fact.
fossil graveyards, dino soft tissue, and smooth grand canyon all point to a flood. there is NO evidence of "flood=allegory".
God's Word does not lie, there is no allegory.