Sinless To Be Saved

I am on reddit right now debating with someone who claims we can be sinless by living in Christ 24/7 and immense bodily sacrifice They say they have sin but do not sin and I am a little confused by their logic here how does one have sin in them but does not sin because they live in Christ 24/7?

Inm fact who among us lives in Christ 24/7?
 
I am on reddit right now debating with someone who claims we can be sinless by living in Christ 24/7 and immense bodily sacrifice They say they have sin but do not sin and I am a little confused by their logic here how does one have sin in them but does not sin because they live in Christ 24/7?

Inm fact who among us lives in Christ 24/7?
Some are really confused.
If we don't sin why did John make provision for sins?
See 1 John chapters 1 and 2...

Didn't forget you.
Still away.
 
Some are really confused.
If we don't sin why did John make provision for sins?
See 1 John chapters 1 and 2...

Didn't forget you.
Still away.
Yes that is a good point and one I made in response to them as well as the issue Paul had with his own struggle with sin Romans 7:14-25. In this passage, he expresses the tension between his desire to do good and his tendency to do what he knows is wrong. He laments, "For I do not understand my own actions. For I do not do what I want, but I do the very thing I hate".

Still waiting for their response to that
 
You show a lack of understanding of the Law. Or of Acts 15.
Some of those 613 were sinful to many. If our Lord tried to perform a sacrifice, He would have committed a sin. He was not a Levite.

Acts 15 (and 21) limits what is needed in Law observance for Gentile believers. Chapter 21 shows that exemption doesn't apply to Jewish believers.
So you get to Cherry pick which laws you get to keep and don't have to keep? Nothing of the law is sinful (Romans 7:7).
 
Oh my gosh Rookie.
None of us is God!
Only God knows who is in His Kingdom.
Correct, and gratefully God let us in on the little secret of who's in Christ Jesus, which is in the verse I gave you.

You're status as Jew or Gentile carries zero weight on whether you're in Christ or not. Its faith alone in Christ alone. Being in Christ is all that matters, so making a huge discussion over that earthly status is fruitless imo.
 
Correct, and gratefully God let us in on the little secret of who's in Christ Jesus, which is in the verse I gave you.

You're status as Jew or Gentile carries zero weight on whether you're in Christ or not. Its faith alone in Christ alone. Being in Christ is all that matters, so making a huge discussion over that earthly status is fruitless imo.
OK
But that sounds like ONLY Christians can make heaven.
Is this your belief?
 
It should be, shouldn't it? The way of salvation is the same for everyone...
God will judge each person on the knowledge they have,,,not on what they didn't know.

The way of Salvation is to know God and to serve Him.
 
"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me". (John 14: 6)

Sounds very clear to me.
Not very clear.

Please explain Romans 1:19-22 I think.

Sorry I can't post it right now.

And if you like John 14:6, you'll also have to explain John 6:37

Do they contradict each other?
 
The only way to heaven is through Jesus Christ himself whether one is a jew or not doesn't matter it makes no difference to him
 
OK
But that sounds like ONLY Christians can make heaven.
Is this your belief?
Wondering, do you really believe that non-Christians can go to heaven???

And did you forget about "Every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess that Jesus is Lord?"
 
Wondering, do you really believe that non-Christians can go to heaven???

And did you forget about "Every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess that Jesus is Lord?"
Yes.
Jesus Chris is Lord.
Jesus is God
if one does not know about Jesus...they still know about the existence of God.
Same thing.
How else to explain Romans 1:19...22??

Sorry I can't post it right now.
 
Not very clear.

Please explain Romans 1:19-22 I think.

Sorry I can't post it right now.

And if you like John 14:6, you'll also have to explain John 6:37

Do they contradict each other?
No. There is no contradiction at all. "All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out". (John 6:37) John 14:6 is declaring that Jesus is the ONLY WAY to Heaven. John 6:37 is declaring that the one who comes to JESUS (and becomes a born-again Christian) He will in no way cast off or cast out. They have become His Children. Romans 1:19-22 is not teaching that there are many ways to God. It is teaching that everyone in their heart KNOWS there is a God.

You need to read this verse and consider it closely: "I do not treat the grace of God as meaningless. For if keeping the law could make us right with God, then there was no need for Christ to die". (Gal. 2:21)

What this verse is basically saying is that if ANY OF US could make ourselves righteous before God and we could go to Heaven as a result----THEN THERE WAS NO NEED FOR CHRIST TO DIE ON THE CROSS.

But he did die on a cross for all of us---so that if we ACCEPT that sacrifice we can THROUGH HIM go to Heaven and not perish.
 
OK
But that sounds like ONLY Christians can make heaven.
Is this your belief?
The people born of the promise go to heaven. Those who put their faith in God before Christ came and those who put their Faith in Him now.

Has nothing to do with being Jewish as evidenced by Rahab the Cannanite woman. Who put her faith in God by helping the Jewish spies.
Faith in God is what did it for OT saints and Faith in Christ now..
 
I am on reddit right now debating with someone who claims we can be sinless by living in Christ 24/7 and immense bodily sacrifice They say they have sin but do not sin and I am a little confused by their logic here how does one have sin in them but does not sin because they live in Christ 24/7?

Inm fact who among us lives in Christ 24/7?
I have debated several who have claimed to be "sinless." Every one of them had a faulty definition of sin.
 
But that sounds like ONLY Christians can make heaven.
Is this your belief?
It depends on your definition of "Christian."

But remember our Lord's words:
John 14:6
Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.
 
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