The Two Natures That Co-Exist In A Spirit-Filled Christian

[for_his_glory]

The sin of Adam and Eve was not in attaining knowledge but in rejecting God’s will in favor of their own.

Adam was instructed not to eat of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, and when he and Eve were later tempted to do this by the serpent in the Garden of Eden, they did so anyway.

What commandments did Adam break in the Garden?

Though there was no formal law at the time of Adam, he violated all of them. In essence, a violation of one part of the law is a violation of the whole law, because the law is a chain, and to break one link is to break the entire chain. So, the sin of eating a piece of forbidden fruit is far more complex than one may first recognize because Adam disobeyed the Word of God.

Found this interesting.

www.jewfaq.org

Noahic (Noah) Commandments are seven commandments first given to Adam (according to Jewish tradition), by God before the flood and brought to remembrance by God to Noah after the flood, which are also binding on both Jew and Gentile as Abraham was the first one to be called a Hebrew as there were no Jew or Gentile in the days of Noah, Genesis 14:13. The seven make up the first parts of the ten that God gave to Moses on Mt Sinai in Exodus 20. Below is a comparison list of the seven and the full ten which are all a part of the 613 laws given to Moses as some were for the Hebrews pertaining to the rituals of the Temple, sacrifices, festivals, Torah, Kohanim and Levites, the King and the Nazarite and then there are the existing moral laws (commandments) for all, Jew and Gentile to follow. Christ did not come to destroy all the laws, but to fulfill the parts of the Temple and sacrifices, Matthew 5:17-22.

Noahic Laws:
Not to worship idols.
Not to curse God.
To establish courts of justice.
Not to commit murder.
Not to commit adultery or sexual immorality.
Not to steal.
Not to eat flesh torn from a living animal.

Mt. Sinai Laws:
You shall have no other gods before Me.
You shall not make idols.
You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain.
Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Honor your father and your mother.
You shall not murder.
You shall not commit adultery.
You shall not steal.
You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
You shall not covet.

Part of the ten laws broken down to various commands within one law:
Other gods and idols are as one not to worship, but broke down into two commands
Remember the Sabbath was added to the ten commandments by God as a remembrance of all God did in six days (Gods timing) and rested on the seventh, Genesis 2:1-3; Matthew 12:1-13
To establish courts of justice was only given to Noah for the new generations to come after the flood
Honor your father and mother was not given to Noah, but was added to the ten commandments by God as the generations grew.

Not to covet was added to the ten commandments by God, but broke down into seven commands as your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor's.

 

[Rodger]

Found this interesting.

www.jewfaq.org

Noahic (Noah) Commandments are seven commandments first given to Adam (according to Jewish tradition), by God before the flood and brought to remembrance by God to Noah after the flood, which are also binding on both Jew and Gentile as Abraham was the first one to be called a Hebrew as there were no Jew or Gentile in the days of Noah, Genesis 14:13. The seven make up the first parts of the ten that God gave to Moses on Mt Sinai in Exodus 20. Below is a comparison list of the seven and the full ten which are all a part of the 613 laws given to Moses as some were for the Hebrews pertaining to the rituals of the Temple, sacrifices, festivals, Torah, Kohanim and Levites, the King and the Nazarite and then there are the existing moral laws (commandments) for all, Jew and Gentile to follow. Christ did not come to destroy all the laws, but to fulfill the parts of the Temple and sacrifices, Matthew 5:17-22.

Noahic Laws:
Not to worship idols.
Not to curse God.
To establish courts of justice.
Not to commit murder.
Not to commit adultery or sexual immorality.
Not to steal.
Not to eat flesh torn from a living animal.

Mt. Sinai Laws:
You shall have no other gods before Me.
You shall not make idols.
You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain.
Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Honor your father and your mother.
You shall not murder.
You shall not commit adultery.
You shall not steal.
You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
You shall not covet.

Part of the ten laws broken down to various commands within one law:
Other gods and idols are as one not to worship, but broke down into two commands
Remember the Sabbath was added to the ten commandments by God as a remembrance of all God did in six days (Gods timing) and rested on the seventh, Genesis 2:1-3; Matthew 12:1-13
To establish courts of justice was only given to Noah for the new generations to come after the flood
Honor your father and mother was not given to Noah, but was added to the ten commandments by God as the generations grew.

Not to covet was added to the ten commandments by God, but broke down into seven commands as your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor's.

I am of course able to be corrected, but it has been my understanding that they are called the “Noahide” laws because they are thought to have been given in their fullness to Noah after the flood.

As such they would not have been given to Adam.

They are also called the Noachian laws, the Seven Laws of Noah, or the Seven Commands for Noah’s Sons in the Jewish Talmod.

The idea of a formal set of laws given to all humanity (all the sons of Noah) comes from the Talmud and is therefore extra-biblical.

Some people believe the Book of Jubilees contains a possible mention of the Noahide Laws. But, again, the Book of Jubilees is not inspired Scripture. However, the basic seven Noahide Laws are based in biblical principles.

 

[for_his_glory]

I am of course able to be corrected, but it has been my understanding that they are called the “Noahide” laws because they are thought to have been given in their fullness to Noah after the flood. They are also called the Noachian laws, the Seven Laws of Noah, or the Seven Commands for Noah’s Sons (in Hebrew, Sheva Mitzvot B'nei Noach).

The idea of a formal set of laws given to all humanity (all the sons of Noah) comes from the Talmud and is therefore extra-biblical.

Some people believe the Book of Jubilees contains a possible mention of the Noahide Laws. But, again, the Book of Jubilees is not inspired Scripture. However, the basic seven Noahide Laws are based in biblical principles.

I've been corrected many times and grateful for those who have a higher Biblical knowledge then I have.

The first seven laws of God are called the Noahide/Noahic Laws (various other names) found in the Hebrew Bible that make up parts of the OT. They are found in the Babylonian Talmud Sanhedrin 56a-b and the Tosefta Avodah Zarah 9:4.

 

[Rodger]

I've been corrected many times and grateful for those who have a higher Biblical knowledge then I have.

The first seven laws of God are called the Noahide/Noahic Laws (various other names) found in the Hebrew Bible that make up parts of the OT. They are found in the Babylonian Talmud Sanhedrin 56a-b and the Tosefta Avodah Zarah 9:4.

I did not mean for you to think I was correcting you in any way. I apologize if it came across that way.

 

[Johann!@#]

I've been corrected many times and grateful for those who have a higher Biblical knowledge then I have.

The first seven laws of God are called the Noahide/Noahic Laws (various other names) found in the Hebrew Bible that make up parts of the OT. They are found in the Babylonian Talmud Sanhedrin 56a-b and the Tosefta Avodah Zarah 9:4.

Babylonian Talmud, Sanhedrin 56a-b
In Sanhedrin 56a, the discussion revolves around the obligations of the descendants of Noah (non-Jews). The Talmud states-

"Our Rabbis taught: Seven precepts were the sons of Noah commanded: social laws; to refrain from blasphemy, idolatry, adultery, bloodshed, robbery, and eating flesh cut from a living animal."
(Babylonian Talmud, Sanhedrin 56a)
The Talmud elaborates on these laws and their derivations from biblical texts, though it treats them as traditions passed down rather than direct scriptural commandments.

Tosefta Avodah Zarah 9:4
The Tosefta, an additional collection of Jewish oral law, also addresses these laws:

"The children of Noah were commanded concerning seven precepts: concerning adjudication (justice), idolatry, blasphemy, sexual immorality, bloodshed, robbery, and not to eat flesh torn from a living animal."
(Tosefta Avodah Zarah 9:4)
This passage affirms the same seven laws and their universality for all humanity, emphasizing that they were given to Noah and his descendants.

Additional Context
These laws are not directly listed in the Hebrew Bible (Tanakh) but are inferred from the narratives in Genesis, especially the Noahic covenant (Genesis 9). Rabbinic tradition identifies these as the foundational moral laws for all people, distinct from the Mosaic Law given specifically to Israel.

Keep the faith!

Johann.

 

[Rodger]

Babylonian Talmud, Sanhedrin 56a-b
In Sanhedrin 56a, the discussion revolves around the obligations of the descendants of Noah (non-Jews). The Talmud states-

"Our Rabbis taught: Seven precepts were the sons of Noah commanded: social laws; to refrain from blasphemy, idolatry, adultery, bloodshed, robbery, and eating flesh cut from a living animal."
(Babylonian Talmud, Sanhedrin 56a)
The Talmud elaborates on these laws and their derivations from biblical texts, though it treats them as traditions passed down rather than direct scriptural commandments.

Tosefta Avodah Zarah 9:4
The Tosefta, an additional collection of Jewish oral law, also addresses these laws:

"The children of Noah were commanded concerning seven precepts: concerning adjudication (justice), idolatry, blasphemy, sexual immorality, bloodshed, robbery, and not to eat flesh torn from a living animal."
(Tosefta Avodah Zarah 9:4)
This passage affirms the same seven laws and their universality for all humanity, emphasizing that they were given to Noah and his descendants.

Additional Context
These laws are not directly listed in the Hebrew Bible (Tanakh) but are inferred from the narratives in Genesis, especially the Noahic covenant (Genesis 9). Rabbinic tradition identifies these as the foundational moral laws for all people, distinct from the Mosaic Law given specifically to Israel.

Keep the faith!

Johann.

Good to know and My one and only input on this was simply that nowhere does the Bible record any laws God gave Adam, if any, other than the command to fill and subdue the earth and the prohibition against eating of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, and they are certainly not associated with either Noah or Adam.

 

[Johann!@#]

Good to know and My one and only input on this was simply that nowhere does the Bible record any laws God gave Adam, if any, other than the command to fill and subdue the earth and the prohibition against eating of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, and they are certainly not associated with either Noah or Adam.

No worries Rodger.

Johann.