Poll re. good tattoo artist career for a Christian woman

[farouk]

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"The area in which I live, >16000 people, has five tattoo shops. Of the five, three are owned by women, of those three, two are owned and operated by Christians. So the thought of Christian women with tattoos is just how it is. My wife is no longer intimidated by the whole dark alley tat shop scene. When the artist is a Christian woman, it makes it more accessible for other Christian women. ..
My wife had tatts before Christ.. She states that she prefers the idea of an artist with a set of morals similar to our own. We are friends with two female tattoo artists .. For my wife it seems to come down to the money, she may get more later, as the finances become available."


Personally it seems that mygraine's comments make a lot of sense.

It seems to me that it can be a suitable rôle for Christian woman, particularly an older Christian woman, because older Christian women can often both put people at ease with a gentle selflessness acquired over decades and can also speak effectively with a quiet and authoritative frankness about designs, things to look for and things to avoid. Including about faith related designs, of course.

Any thoughts?

 

[for_his_glory]

Getting a tattoo is a decision only one can make on their own of what they want others to see in them by what they display on their body. When it comes to a Christian owning their own parlor or even working in another they need to guard their testimony of Christ by what they allow themselves to put on another body as well as their own.

 

[farouk]

Getting a tattoo is a decision only one can make on their own of what they want others to see in them by what they display on their body. When it comes to a Christian owning their own parlor or even working in another they need to guard their testimony of Christ by what they allow themselves to put on another body as well as their own.

for his glory:

Yes, it's a very personal thing, isn't it? the personal responsibility goes with the client hiring the tattoo artist.

I guess the tattoo artist is kind of in the situation of the lawyer, in that s/he is doing it on the basis of: 'my client intructs me..(etc.)'. But s/he can also give a lot of advice, while the ultimate responsibility rest with the client.

The sort of art that parlor owners like to display is of course something that they do have a lot of discretion over.

Anyway, part of the emphasis of the original post, prompted by mygraine's thoughtful comments, was about whether Christian women could find the work particularly suitable, satisfying for both client and tattooist, etc. Though you've not particularly commented on this gender aspect, yet in the course of your slight reservations you've not at all challenged this assumption about this gender aspect.

(I guess, since I'm basically sympathetic to mygraine's idea that it's particularly good and suitable work for a Christian woman to undertake, I would tend to view the fact that any reservations that you may have don't lie in the gender aspect, as a positive sign.)

Blessings.

 

[AirDancer]

I would have to say that the Christian woman would have to have interest in and talent for tattoos. There is definitely a skill level required.

Also, am in agreement with for_his_glory in that the Christian woman would have to be very selective in what designs would be offered, and where those tatts would be placed. While the woman would have a responsibility to keep her business growing, she would have a stronger responsibility to not only talk her faith but also walk that faith.

With a well-defined company policy posted and/or an agreement requiring signature that protects the company's right to refuse any design or body location, then a Christian woman should be fine in owning and directing her own tatt parlour.

Would I own a tattoo parlour? No. But then, that isn't in my area of expertise.

 

[handy]

I would have to say that the Christian woman would have to have interest in and talent for tattoos. There is definitely a skill level required.

Also, am in agreement with for_his_glory in that the Christian woman would have to be very selective in what designs would be offered, and where those tatts would be placed. While the woman would have a responsibility to keep her business growing, she would have a stronger responsibility to not only talk her faith but also walk that faith.

With a well-defined company policy posted and/or an agreement requiring signature that protects the company's right to refuse any design or body location, then a Christian woman should be fine in owning and directing her own tatt parlour.

Would I own a tattoo parlour? No. But then, that isn't in my area of expertise.

You and I are pretty much in agreement here, AirDancer... It would behoove any Christian, male or female, to be careful about what kind of art was being tatted on someone and certainly the principles of modesty must be applied as well.

 

[elizabethbraddock]

You and I are pretty much in agreement here, AirDancer... It would behoove any Christian, male or female, to be careful about what kind of art was being tatted on someone and certainly the principles of modesty must be applied as well.

Do you think it would be okay for a woman to get a tattoo in a private area if the tattoo artist was another woman? (I would never do such a thing, or ever get a tattoo, just curious.)

 

[AirDancer]

If it is a Christian tattoo parlour, with Christian owners & Christian artists, I would think tatts in private areas of the body would not be allowed because of the modesty issue.

That would be my position on the matter, anyway.

 

[farouk]

Do you think it would be okay for a woman to get a tattoo in a private area if the tattoo artist was another woman? (I would never do such a thing, or ever get a tattoo, just curious.)

elizabethbraddock:

Ty for your post. If I may be so bold as to respond a little, the answer that you'll get would depend on what sort of local church background the person hangs around in, I guess: for example, if she goes to a Fundie-type place where even bikinis (let alone toplessness) are railed against, then I guess the answer is likely to be no.

If the Christian woman can honestly wear a bikini with a clear conscience (and one can remember that some stringy one-pieces actually cover less than some bikinis do), then it might be perfectly feasible for a tattoo to be received and worked near to the bikini triangle.

Or maybe you're asking something slightly different.

(But to coin a phrase: don't ask me; I only work here...)

Blessings.

 

[joethemechanic]

I guess it could work but it would be kinda like being a Christian pole dancer. Unless the top is coming off she isn't gonna make any money.

A Christian tattoo artist would be in the same predicament, what she is offering isn't what the typical tattoo shop customer is wanting to buy

 

[handy]

Do you think it would be okay for a woman to get a tattoo in a private area if the tattoo artist was another woman? (I would never do such a thing, or ever get a tattoo, just curious.)

It wouldn't sit well with my spirit... I just don't think that God intends for us to handle the private areas of another, even if there is no sexual overtones about it.

Medical surgeries are one thing... but for one woman to be so intimately touching another? Not for me....

 

[reba]

It wouldn't sit well with my spirit... I just don't think that God intends for us to handle the private areas of another, even if there is no sexual overtones about it.

Medical surgeries are one thing... but for one woman to be so intimately touching another? Not for me....

Wow does that beg the next question BUT i wont go there! :seehearspeak

 

[farouk]

Wow does that beg the next question BUT i wont go there! :seehearspeak

I didn't want to go there, either...

(Maybe any ladies that want to discuss genital regions could do so in the women's locker room?)

My thought rather was that mygraine's comments, quoted above, about a tattoo parlor being a worthwhile environment for a Christian woman to work (particularly given the huge number of women, including many Christian women) who would probably love to avail themselves of the service from a women they trusted, could make for a constructive discussion, anyway.

Receding are the days when the choice is limited to 'bog-standard' parlors in unlit, industrial sections which you have to go to at midnight for service in a maybe somewhat unwashed, exclusively male environment. If Christian women just realize that there are clean, well lit and friendly environments, where a sympathetic Christian woman can be of service as regards their emerging tattoo needs and wishes, I guess the way will be much more wide open for a lot of people, including for faith based designs, which are already very popular.

(Two cents'.)

Blessings.

 

[handy]

I guess it could work but it would be kinda like being a Christian pole dancer. Unless the top is coming off she isn't gonna make any money.

A Christian tattoo artist would be in the same predicament, what she is offering isn't what the typical tattoo shop customer is wanting to buy

I think there's a lot of truth in this... one would really have to study if there is going to be enough market for her services prior to getting any overhead.

 

[joethemechanic]

It just so happens my friend owns a tattoo shop (go figure)

This is what customers are buying. Would a Christian Tattoo artist be comfortable doing stuff like this?

 

[farouk]

I would have to say that the Christian woman would have to have interest in and talent for tattoos. There is definitely a skill level required.

Also, am in agreement with for_his_glory in that the Christian woman would have to be very selective in what designs would be offered, and where those tatts would be placed. While the woman would have a responsibility to keep her business growing, she would have a stronger responsibility to not only talk her faith but also walk that faith.

With a well-defined company policy posted and/or an agreement requiring signature that protects the company's right to refuse any design or body location, then a Christian woman should be fine in owning and directing her own tatt parlour.

Would I own a tattoo parlour? No. But then, that isn't in my area of expertise.

AirDancer:

Yes, within some safeguards, I would think it's certainly feasible.

It's undoubtedly a service that Christian women have an interest in and feel a need for.

Blessings.

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Blessings.

 

[Charles Spurgeon]

God was against it in the OT:


Lev 19:28 You shall not make any cuts on your body for the dead or tattoo yourselves: I am the LORD.

 

[farouk]

God was against it in the OT:


Lev 19:28 You shall not make any cuts on your body for the dead or tattoo yourselves: I am the LORD.

Thanks for your contribution.

It does say 'for the dead', that is, pagan funeral rites are the background of the practice.

The passage also speaks of not trimming the corners of one's beard. (Do preachers shave?)

I wonder if the context is Old Testament Jews in the land under the law.

Usually there has to be a corresponding New Testament idea to corroborate the extension of something in the Old Testament: for example, the Lord Jesus applied all the ten commandments except the sabbath.

Romans 14 speaks of Christian liberty. Many believers get a faith related tattoo with the motive (which is important) of making it easier to talk to people; and it has been proved to be very effective.

Blessings.

 

[Jethro Bodine]

... one would really have to study if there is going to be enough market for her services prior to getting any overhead.

She could open up a Christian liquor store to supplement her income from the Christian tattoo parlor.

 

[farouk]

She could open up a Christian liquor store to supplement her income from the Christian tattoo parlor.

Jethro: I think you are mocking the many women who want a faith based tattoo, and feel uncomfortable with a man at a parlor.

Blessings.

 

[Jethro Bodine]

The passage also speaks of not trimming the corners of one's beard. (Do preachers shave?)

These things were what the world does in the worship of idols. Tattooing continues to this day as a practice of idolaters.

I wonder if the context is Old Testament Jews in the land under the law.
Romans 14 speaks of Christian liberty. Many believers get a faith related tattoo with the motive (which is important) of making it easier to talk to people; and it has been proved to be very effective.

Christian liberty that does harm to others is to be kept a secret. Christian liberty is not a license to arrogantly stick your freedom in someone else's face. Read the passage.

Also, if the tattoo you're getting is really just the service of an idol you have in your heart, then you will be guilty of condemning yourself by what you approve. The bottom line, just because we ourselves approve of something doesn't automatically make it right.