1 John 1: Against self-justifying doctrine

[Corinth77777]

Who said it then ?

So, I was right !

Yes, He said that too.

Do sinners abide in His word ?
No, they do not.
They walk in .

 

[Corinth77777]

I disagree.

Then Jesus said to those Jews who believed Him, “If you abide in My word, you are My disciples indeed. 32 And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” John 8:31-32


Jesus was speaking to believers.

There are a couple of ways to see this:

1. Before they believed him- they were unbelieving

2. There were still those who were unbelieving after they heard Him, and those who believed as #1

Pointing out> regeneration and Justification come first.

For God calls things to exist through His word.

First believing who Jesus is, then living by His word.

He is basically saying to me- that when you live according to the call you make your call sure.

So then a person knows what they have when they walk in it.

 

[RBDERRICK]

Of course we can be free from the service to sin, however we must by the Spirit, put to death the deeds of sin that dwells in our flesh.

Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body, that you should obey it in its lusts. And do not present your members as instruments of unrighteousness to sin, but present yourselves to God as being alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness to God. Romans 6:12-13

The truth of Scripture is that anyone sinning against God, is serving sin against God. Only those doing His righteousness are serving the righteous Lord.

However, some apply sinful man's moral relativism to God's words, and make service a matter of frequency, even as some judge sin by type: Some judge all sinning is not unto death, and some make some sinning is not unto service.

Once God's service is interpreted by frequency, then moral relativity of liberal philsophers and theologians is injected into God's judgment.

Col 2:8
Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

2 Tim
{2:15} Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. {2:16} But shun profane [and] vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.

The righteous Lord and judge says all sinning is enmity against Him, and any time of sinning is being His enemy.

Jas 2:10
For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

Gen 2:17
But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Scripture does not say in the 'days' ye eat therof, but in the very day of disobedience to God.

Moral relativity is also applied to repentance as well as service. It's the progressiveness of gradual repentance relative to the past. They only repent to sin less than before, and never to sin not at all.

They also make themselves moral relativist activists and frequency watchers, who judge what amount of frequency is now guilty of serving sin.

Which, of course, never includes their own 'infrequent' amount of only sinning from time to time.

They are progressives liberally interpretiing Scripture pertaining to works and repentance, whereby they justify themselves by their own less frequent sinning than before, as well as condemn others for more frequentl;y sinning than themselves.

It's all judgement relative to their own faith and works, and not relevant to God's judgement of any sinning against Him at any time in heaven and on earth.

 

[RBDERRICK]

No the truth can't set us free from committing sin.

True. Only doers of the word are free from sinning.

Jhn 8:31
Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
Jhn 8:32
And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

Those who don't want to be set free from their own sinning, will never cease sinning, because they harden themselves not to repent from their own sinning.

Know matter how much truth they read, hear, and give lip service to.

 

[RBDERRICK]

We will be free from sin when our physical body is resurrected from the dead, at His coming.

Not for those refusing the Lord's command to repenting of sinning today.

The vain hope of unrepented or lukewarm repenting sinners, is to be born a whole new creature after the grave.

2 Cor

{5:17} Therefore if any man [be] in Christ, [he is] a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. {5:18} And all things [are] of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ

Only those who repent of their sins and trespasses to become now in Christ Jesus, and continue in Him to keep themselves from their past sinning, shall be judged worthy of resurrection unto life in Jesus' likeness.

 

[Corinth77777]

No one.



No you were wrong.



No Christians must continue in His word, in order to eventually know the truth.

Certainly doesn't happen at water baptism. Check mate!

Are you saying because He did not quote it correctly He is wrong?