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2 beast, two Babylons

I Corinthians 14:24 KJV
But if all prophesy, and there come in one that believeth not, or one unlearned, he is convinced of all, he is judged of all:
25 And thus are the secrets of his heart made manifest; and so falling down on his face he will worship God, and report that God is in you of a truth.

Spiritual insights go to the inner man.
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Acts 16:16 KJV
And it came to pass, as we went to prayer, a certain damsel possessed with a spirit of divination met us, which brought her masters much gain by soothsaying:

External observations revealed (by evil spirits) tend to be external information.

This is a little on the edge of who I am.

eddif
 
two beasts...
two Babylons...
two Jerusalem's...
two covenants...
two laws...
two ways...
two images...

Galatians 4:21-28
Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law? For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman. But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise. Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar. For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children. But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all. For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband.

two beasts...
two Babylons...
two Jerusalem's...
two covenants...
two laws...
two ways...
two images...

It all comes down to either serving the flesh, or serving the spirit.

Those who serve the flesh live after the works of the law, servants of sin. They stand beneath Mt Sinai awaiting the Lords return, and look toward towards a city made of stone, Jerusalem, she that sits a widow though she thinks herself a queen, she that was left desolate.

But those who walk after the Spirit are not called before Mt Sinai to await the Lord's return, they have been called forth to Mt Zion and to the heavenly Jerusalem.
 
eddif said:
Spiritual insights go to the inner man.


Acts 16:16 KJV
And it came to pass, as we went to prayer, a certain damsel possessed with a spirit of divination met us, which brought her masters much gain by soothsaying:

External observations revealed (by evil spirits) tend to be external information.

eddif
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True. The actions of the "invisible" internal resistance movements are well documented for our viewing.

What do devils in man do?

-They steal Gods Words from the hearts of man. Mark 4:15
-They deny and/or twist the Word of God. (too many citings to drag out)
-They sin in the flesh of man. 1 John 3:8.

Pretty much any forms of resistance to God in Christ and His Words are actions of devils in man.

I'm sure you've heard them many times. That is the revealing of Mystery Babylon and it's workings/workers "in man."

It makes for interesting studies to see how Gods Spirit deals with adverse spirits of devils. That's really where all the action is in the scriptures.

1 Corinthians 2:13
Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

Believers tend to see end time as so dire. Look upon the power of this messenger of God in power, and REJOICE for the words which will be spoken against them:

Revelation 18:
1 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.
2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen,

21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.

It may seem rather that we will REJOICE.
 
ezrider said:
two beasts...
two Babylons...
two Jerusalem's...
two covenants...
two laws...
two ways...
two images...

Galatians 4:21-28
Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law? For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman. But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise. Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar. For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children. But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all. For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband.

two beasts...
two Babylons...
two Jerusalem's...
two covenants...
two laws...
two ways...
two images...

It all comes down to either serving the flesh, or serving the spirit.

Those who serve the flesh live after the works of the law, servants of sin. They stand beneath Mt Sinai awaiting the Lords return, and look toward towards a city made of stone, Jerusalem, she that sits a widow though she thinks herself a queen, she that was left desolate.

But those who walk after the Spirit are not called before Mt Sinai to await the Lord's return, they have been called forth to Mt Zion and to the heavenly Jerusalem.
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:yes :clap :agreed
 
two images...

What is the image of the beast? Or maybe we should say, what are the images of the Beast(s).

To the flesh, the image of the beast is the image of a man hung upon a cross. The image of his death. And they worshiped the image of the beast. The image of death, the image of a man.

But to the Spirit, the image of the beast is made in the image of the Resurrection.

Even though through Jesus Christ we are accounted as dead to sin in the flesh, there are many that still do the works of the law by continuing to offer their dead works before the Lord. They continue to see the sin in their flesh, and return over and over again to offer Christ as the sacrifice for their sins according to the works of law. They find themselves stuck before the cross, worshiping the image of a man after the manner of their flesh, worshiping the image of his death.
 
smaller said:
True. The actions of the "invisible" internal resistance movements are well documented for our viewing.

What do devils in man do?

-They steal Gods Words from the hearts of man. Mark 4:15
-They deny and/or twist the Word of God. (too many citings to drag out)
-They sin in the flesh of man. 1 John 3:8.

Pretty much any forms of resistance to God in Christ and His Words are actions of devils in man.

I'm sure you've heard them many times. That is the revealing of Mystery Babylon and it's workings/workers "in man."

It makes for interesting studies to see how Gods Spirit deals with adverse spirits of devils. That's really where all the action is in the scriptures.

1 Corinthians 2:13
Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

Believers tend to see end time as so dire. Look upon the power of this messenger of God in power, and REJOICE for the words which will be spoken against them:

Revelation 18:
1 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.
2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen,

21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.

It may seem rather that we will REJOICE.
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The end times are of great dire to those who refuse to repent and turn back to God. This is why we are called to teach the Gospel so no one has excuse.

Question, do you believe everyone has a devil in them whether they are born again or not?
 
for_his_glory said:
The end times are of great dire to those who refuse to repent and turn back to God. This is why we are called to teach the Gospel so no one has excuse.

Question, do you believe everyone has a devil in them whether they are born again or not?
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I believe what Jesus said here is true for all unbelievers:

Mark 4:
15 And these are they by the way side, where the word is sown; but when they have heard, Satan cometh immediately, and taketh away the word that was sown in their hearts.

Same things taught by Paul in Acts 26:18, Romans 11:8, 2 Cor. 3:14 & 4:4 among other citings of Paul and by John in 1 John 3:8 which links the devil to every sin, again an unseen operation by the devil in the flesh. Paul affirms this personally in 2 Cor. 12:7.

On this basis we should be seeing two parties in man, one of them unseen and never cooperative.

Are people devils? 3rd time request. Wanting to see where the cookie crumbles.
 
ezrider said:
two images...

What is the image of the beast? Or maybe we should say, what are the images of the Beast(s).

To the flesh, the image of the beast is the image of a man hung upon a cross. The image of his death. And they worshiped the image of the beast. The image of death, the image of a man.

But to the Spirit, the image of the beast is made in the image of the Resurrection.

Even though through Jesus Christ we are accounted as dead to sin in the flesh, there are many that still do the works of the law by continuing to offer their dead works before the Lord. They continue to see the sin in their flesh, and return over and over again to offer Christ as the sacrifice for their sins according to the works of law. They find themselves stuck before the cross, worshiping the image of a man after the manner of their flesh, worshiping the image of his death.
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Want to hear the image speak?

My sign is emerging. God wills it thus. Only my children recognize it, as it reveals itself in secrecy, and they praise the Eternal One for it. Today I cannot reveal my power to the whole world. I must withdraw with my children. In secrecy I will perform miracles on the souls until the number of sacrifices has become full. ?Then I can reveal myself to the whole world?[2]

Soon, I will come, my children! Soon, I will be in your midst with a great light. I will enlighten the entire world. Many souls will cry because they did not listen to my call. ?I will pass above everyone in a cloud and everyone will see me. What will become of those who insulted me and made a laughing stock of me? ?I will come soon, my sons, to travel through the entire world. I will give a great sign in the sky for those who will still want to be saved. All those who have recourse to me, who have a look of repentance, this will be sufficient to save them.[3]

I wish to also tell you that before my apparitions end completely, I shall be seen by every denomination and religion throughout this world. I will be seen among all people, not for just a moment, but everyone will have a chance to see me. As I appeared in Zeitoun, I shall appear again so everyone may see me. Pray and help my plans to be realized, not just here, but throughout the world.[4]

http://biblebelievers.com/tetlow/queenofall01.html
 
turnorburn said:
Want to hear the image speak?

My sign is emerging. God wills it thus. Only my children recognize it, as it reveals itself in secrecy, and they praise the Eternal One for it. Today I cannot reveal my power to the whole world. I must withdraw with my children. In secrecy I will perform miracles on the souls until the number of sacrifices has become full. ?Then I can reveal myself to the whole world?[2]

Soon, I will come, my children! Soon, I will be in your midst with a great light. I will enlighten the entire world. Many souls will cry because they did not listen to my call. ?I will pass above everyone in a cloud and everyone will see me. What will become of those who insulted me and made a laughing stock of me? ?I will come soon, my sons, to travel through the entire world. I will give a great sign in the sky for those who will still want to be saved. All those who have recourse to me, who have a look of repentance, this will be sufficient to save them.[3]

I wish to also tell you that before my apparitions end completely, I shall be seen by every denomination and religion throughout this world. I will be seen among all people, not for just a moment, but everyone will have a chance to see me. As I appeared in Zeitoun, I shall appear again so everyone may see me. Pray and help my plans to be realized, not just here, but throughout the world.[4]

http://biblebelievers.com/tetlow/queenofall01.html
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That's not scripture. That's fiction.
 
I Corinthians 15:49 KJV
And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.

Repentance
Accept Jesus
Baptised in Holy Spirit that you shall receive power to be witnesses of Jesus - not ourselves.

eddif
 
Sinthesis said:
That's not scripture. That's fiction.
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It's an evil spirit, speaking through a lot of people, and a lot of people follow that evil spirit inside. I've seen it manifested perhaps hundreds of times. Formally it's called Mariolatry, a particular form of demonic spirit idolatry that operates in the flesh.
 
Sinthesis said:
That's not scripture. That's fiction.
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Its not fiction..

II Thessalonians 2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

Its all part of the signs and lying wonders...
 
turnorburn said:
Want to hear the image speak?

My sign is emerging. God wills it thus. Only my children recognize it, as it reveals itself in secrecy, and they praise the Eternal One for it. Today I cannot reveal my power to the whole world. I must withdraw with my children. In secrecy I will perform miracles on the souls until the number of sacrifices has become full. ?Then I can reveal myself to the whole world?[2]

Soon, I will come, my children! Soon, I will be in your midst with a great light. I will enlighten the entire world. Many souls will cry because they did not listen to my call. ?I will pass above everyone in a cloud and everyone will see me. What will become of those who insulted me and made a laughing stock of me? ?I will come soon, my sons, to travel through the entire world. I will give a great sign in the sky for those who will still want to be saved. All those who have recourse to me, who have a look of repentance, this will be sufficient to save them.[3]

I wish to also tell you that before my apparitions end completely, I shall be seen by every denomination and religion throughout this world. I will be seen among all people, not for just a moment, but everyone will have a chance to see me. As I appeared in Zeitoun, I shall appear again so everyone may see me. Pray and help my plans to be realized, not just here, but throughout the world.[4]

http://biblebelievers.com/tetlow/queenofall01.html
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To those who have spiritual ears to hear and eyes to see will understand what has been in the past will be also in the end of days as it is even working its inquiries now.
 
turnorburn said:
Its not fiction..

II Thessalonians 2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

Its all part of the signs and lying wonders...
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:amen :thumbsup
 
smaller said:
I believe what Jesus said here is true for all unbelievers:

Mark 4:
15 And these are they by the way side, where the word is sown; but when they have heard, Satan cometh immediately, and taketh away the word that was sown in their hearts.

Same things taught by Paul in Acts 26:18, Romans 11:8, 2 Cor. 3:14 & 4:4 among other citings of Paul and by John in 1 John 3:8 which links the devil to every sin, again an unseen operation by the devil in the flesh. Paul affirms this personally in 2 Cor. 12:7.

On this basis we should be seeing two parties in man, one of them unseen and never cooperative.

Are people devils? 3rd time request. Wanting to see where the cookie crumbles.
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No, and how could they be. How can flesh and blood be devils for devils are spirit without form as Jesus declared in Luke 24:37-39, but they can certainly take on many forms as we see in the two beast and the two Babylons, which evidently has not yet been revealed to you, but I pray it will be.
 
for_his_glory said:
which evidently has not yet been revealed to you, but I pray it will be.
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What hasn't been revealed? That ""empires that we physically see" are the spirits of devils?

I think that's a rather ridiculous notion trying to pin adverse spirits, invisible powers and unseen agents as being physical when they are not.
 
turnorburn said:
Its not fiction..

II Thessalonians 2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

Its all part of the signs and lying wonders...
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It is fiction. Your account is a made up story from the point of view of a made up demonic character, which says more about the people who choose to believe it than those they are trying to slander through fiction. Portraying fiction as truth does not convey a love of the truth.
 
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