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A commentary on the Book of Revelation - Part 1

Luke 3:38. King James Version. 38 Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.
Luke 3:38 does not mean that Adam was equal to Jesus as "The" Son of God which you seem to be implying.

The idea of a "son" in first century Christian writings was different than it is today. The term "son" simply signified that he came from God and was a created being and bore His image as do we all.

Now just to compliment your education allow me to say here that Luke is drawing a comparison between Adam "A" son of God and Jesus "The" son of God. He ends the genealogy with Adam as son of God and moves directly into describing the temptation of Jesus in the wilderness. The point Luke is emphasizing is the difference between the actions of Jesus and Adam when they were tempted.
 
It would be interesting to know the sources of your knowledge!!!!!!

It is not the Bible so are you will to tell us???
My Father in Heaven. The waters flow on my thoughts and I see them, because I have studied much and I understand. He is also verbal sometimes. Sometimes visions, He explains things to me. Like I have said before I speak of things written and not written!
 
Prove this please.
LOL........Its common sense, you can't argue against a point I make if you are just debating in general terms, and never read a persons arguments.

Lets say if I argue the Federal Gov. going in debt causes INFLATION and then I support theses with four or five data points and all you do is run an assumption that the Gov. can't be the overall cause of inflation, then you can't debate my DATA SET POINTS which you never READ. Its just common sense. The worse part is not knowing why you can't debate when you refuse to take in someone else points.
 
LOL........Its common sense, you can't argue against a point I make if you are just debating in general terms, and never read a persons arguments.
If a known member of a particular group posts something, it may be known what they are for and against by the group they are in, regardless of their post or words used.

If a known heresy is posted, it may be known without reading it.
 
Revelation 5:8-10
8 And when he had taken the book, the four living beings and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints.
9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to GOD by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
10 And hast made us unto our GOD kings and priests: and WE shall reign on the earth.(JESUS said: Matthew .5:5 -> Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth).

Revelation 11:15-18

15
And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven(Ephesians 1:3-8), saying,The kingdoms OF THIS WORLD
(world of Devil) are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of His Christ; and He shall reign for ever and ever. (((1Corinthians 15:24-27
24Then the END cometh, when He shall have delivered up the Kingdom to GOD, even the Father; when He shall have PUT DOWN all rule and all authority and power. 25 For he must reign, till He hath put all enemies under His feet. 26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.)))

16
And the four and twenty elders, which sat before GOD on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped GOD,
17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord GOD Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.
18 And the nations were (WILL be) angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be Judged, and that thou should give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and should destroy them which destroy the earth.

Revelation 13:4 and 9
4 ...who is able to make war with him? ->with the Beast <-
9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.

Revelation 21:8
8 But the fearful(the COWARDS), and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all LIARS, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

What matters and prevails is the Word of GOD, the Word is GOD, self-executing, understand?
Get ready

The time is of WAR
 
I apprecaite your testimony but keep in mine that it is yours not mine.

Again........with all due respect I disagree with you.

You are not the only one who has studied this topic. I say again that the Bible says to me that The Judgments of Revelation consist of 21 total events that will occur during the Tribulation period, from the signing of the peace treaty by the Anti-Christ to the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.

The Bible tells us in the Revelation that there will be seven seal judgments, seven trumpets, and seven bowl judgments. 3 x 7 =21!
The first six seal judgments are unleashed in chapter 6 of Revelation and are comprised of the following:

• First seal (vv. 1-2) –----- the Antichrist is let loose upon the world
• Second seal (vv. 3-4) –-- wars begin and peace is lost
• Third seal (vv. 5-6) –---- famine breaks out
• Fourth seal (vv. 7-8) –--- the ultimate result of war and famine, which is death
• Fifth seal (vv. 9-11) –---- persecution of God's people, which brings more of God's vengeance on the world,
• Sixth seal (vv. 12-17) –-- a great earthquake along with other celestial upheavals

Revelation 8:1-2......
"When the Lamb opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven for about half an hour. Then I saw the seven angels who stand before God, and seven trumpets were given to them. … Now the seven angels who had the seven trumpets prepared to blow them".

If there is just ONE Seal judgment, why does the Scriptures say SEVEN angels?

The first six trumpets are comprised of the following judgments:

• First trumpet (vs. 7) –------ one third of earth, trees, grass is burned up
• Second trumpet (vv. 8-9) – one third of the sea creatures die and ships are destroyed
• Third trumpet (vv. 10-11) – one third of the waters polluted and many die
• Fourth trumpet (vs. 12) – ---one third of the sun, moon, and stars are darkened
• Fifth trumpet (vv. 9:1-11) –- Locusts/demons are released to torment people
• Sixth trumpet (vv. 9:13-19) – Four bound demons are released to kill one third of humankind with an army

Next come the bowl judgments and they are more comprehensive in their effect:

• First bowl (vs. 16:2) - --------Horrible sores on those with the mark of the beast
• Second bowl (vs. 16:3) - ----Everything in the sea dies
• Third bowl (vv. 16:4-7) - -----All the waters are polluted
• Fourth bowl (vv. 16:8-9) – ---The sun burns and scorches people
• Fifth bowl (vv. 16:10-11) – ---Brings complete darkness over Antichrist's kingdom
• Sixth bowl (vv. 16:12-16) – ---The Euphrates dries up ; the kings of the East come into Holy Land
• Seventh bowl (vv. 16:17-21) – Produces a great earthquake; cities of nations fall; a huge hailstorm occurs


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Source: https://jesusplusnothing.com/series/post/chronology-of-revelation

The 21 judgments get increasingly worse and more devastating as the end times progress. The seven seals, trumpets, and bowls are connected to one another. The seventh seal introduces the seven trumpets (Revelation 8:1–5), and the seventh trumpet introduces the seven bowls (Revelation 11:15–19; 15:1–8).
Hello Rodger. If you will, what is the back ground on your thoughts on what you call the first seal. When clearly it's not stated it just one of the seals as Jesus says. Here are mine. It's the first and the last and are the two witnesses and clearly matches the description. The six seal, 6 trumpet, 6 vial is where the Satans are release clearly. I will be nice on my reply but will clearly state my thoughts. I would like to work you post.

6 And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.
2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.
 
Hello Rodger. If you will, what is the back ground on your thoughts on what you call the first seal. When clearly it's not stated it just one of the seals as Jesus says. Here are mine. It's the first and the last and are the two witnesses and clearly matches the description. The six seal, 6 trumpet, 6 vial is where the Satans are release clearly. I will be nice on my reply but will clearly state my thoughts. I would like to work you post.

6 And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.
2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.
I am not sure what you mean by "Background" on my thoughts. If you are asking about my credentials I am reluctant to post them as it then seems that I am bragging. Let me just say that I have spent some time in the classroom.

However, if you are asking about
Hello Rodger. If you will, what is the back ground on your thoughts on what you call the first seal. When clearly it's not stated it just one of the seals as Jesus says. Here are mine. It's the first and the last and are the two witnesses and clearly matches the description. The six seal, 6 trumpet, 6 vial is where the Satans are release clearly. I will be nice on my reply but will clearly state my thoughts. I would like to work you post.

6 And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.
2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.
Thank you for the question. I must admitt that I do not understand the idea of.....
"The Back ground".

You posted 6.........
"And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see."

OK..........That is actually chapter 6 vs. #1. So you are in error to begin with.

Then you posted "2"...........
"And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer."

OK. Great.

So I guess your thought is because the Scripture does not say" Opened the First Seal" you are questioning the veracity of the Scriptures.

Now. take the time to read verse #3.................
"When He opened the SECOND seal, I heard the second living creature saying, “Come and see.” 4 Another horse, fiery red, went out. And it was granted to the one who sat on it to take peace from the earth, and that people should kill one another; and there was given to him a great sword."

Now lets read verse #5..........
"When He opened the THIRD seal, I heard the third living creature say, “Come and see.” So I looked, and behold, a black horse, and he who sat on it had a pair of scale in his hand. 6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four living creatures saying, “A quart of wheat for a [e]denarius, and three quarts of barley for a denarius; and do not harm the oil and the wine.”

If we do this with each SEAL we see a numerical progression from 1 to 7 with the FIRST Seal in verse #1 being Seal #1.

Jesus Christ breaks all the Seals and the Greek word there is ...."as secriatum" which means literally.......RIGHT IN ORDER.

The rider on the white horse is the A/C. Now then..........the FOUR horsemen ride all through the Revelation from Chapter 6 to chapter 19.

Where your problem comes in is that between those Two chapter are what is called "PARENTHETICAL" chapters in which other information is given to us.

One of those is chapter 11 when the TWO Witnesses are seen. That is the middle of the 7 year Tribulation.

I fail then to see what your concern is!
 
My Father in Heaven. The waters flow on my thoughts and I see them, because I have studied much and I understand. He is also verbal sometimes. Sometimes visions, He explains things to me. Like I have said before I speak of things written and not written!
That my friend is a self defeating answer. It does not in any way validate your thoughts that you put down on a web site.

The one and only acceptable answer is the Word of God.

How do you know that the waters flowing from your thoughts are from God the Father. It has been written by Muhammed's parents that they believed he was possessed by a demon.

I am not trying to offend you but most all of us have studied, some more than others and all I am saying is that what your thoughts are do not agree with the written Word of God.
 
Revelation 5:8-10
8 And when he had taken the book, the four living beings and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints.
9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to GOD by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
10 And hast made us unto our GOD kings and priests: and WE shall reign on the earth.(JESUS said: Matthew .5:5 -> Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth).

Revelation 11:15-18

15
And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven(Ephesians 1:3-8), saying,The kingdoms OF THIS WORLD
(world of Devil) are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of His Christ; and He shall reign for ever and ever. (((1Corinthians 15:24-27
24Then the END cometh, when He shall have delivered up the Kingdom to GOD, even the Father; when He shall have PUT DOWN all rule and all authority and power. 25 For he must reign, till He hath put all enemies under His feet. 26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.)))

16
And the four and twenty elders, which sat before GOD on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped GOD,
17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord GOD Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.
18 And the nations were (WILL be) angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be Judged, and that thou should give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and should destroy them which destroy the earth.

Revelation 13:4 and 9
4 ...who is able to make war with him? ->with the Beast <-
9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.

Revelation 21:8
8 But the fearful(the COWARDS), and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all LIARS, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

What matters and prevails is the Word of GOD, the Word is GOD, self-executing, understand?
Get ready

The time is of WAR
Absolutley agreed. What is written in the Word of God is to be read and believed and the thoughts and visions and ideas of men are to be ignored.
 
No implication as you seemed to presume for whatever reason in your post.
I do not know what you are trying to say here.

I am not presuming anything but instead using the written Word of God.

In it, there is NO suggestion that Adam was "The Son" of God.

All I am saying is that Adam was A son of God just as you and I are by faith in Jesus Christ who is THE Son of God.
 
That my friend is a self defeating answer. It does not in any way validate your thoughts that you put down on a web site.

The one and only acceptable answer is the Word of God.

How do you know that the waters flowing from your thoughts are from God the Father. It has been written by Muhammed's parents that they believed he was possessed by a demon.

I am not trying to offend you but most all of us have studied, some more than others and all I am saying is that what your thoughts are do not agree with the written Word of God.
Thank you for your reply.
 
I am not sure what you mean by "Background" on my thoughts. If you are asking about my credentials I am reluctant to post them as it then seems that I am bragging. Let me just say that I have spent some time in the classroom.

However, if you are asking about

Thank you for the question. I must admitt that I do not understand the idea of.....
"The Back ground".

You posted 6.........
"And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see."

OK..........That is actually chapter 6 vs. #1. So you are in error to begin with.

Then you posted "2"...........
"And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer."

OK. Great.

So I guess your thought is because the Scripture does not say" Opened the First Seal" you are questioning the veracity of the Scriptures.

Now. take the time to read verse #3.................
"When He opened the SECOND seal, I heard the second living creature saying, “Come and see.” 4 Another horse, fiery red, went out. And it was granted to the one who sat on it to take peace from the earth, and that people should kill one another; and there was given to him a great sword."

Now lets read verse #5..........
"When He opened the THIRD seal, I heard the third living creature say, “Come and see.” So I looked, and behold, a black horse, and he who sat on it had a pair of scale in his hand. 6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four living creatures saying, “A quart of wheat for a [e]denarius, and three quarts of barley for a denarius; and do not harm the oil and the wine.”

If we do this with each SEAL we see a numerical progression from 1 to 7 with the FIRST Seal in verse #1 being Seal #1.

Jesus Christ breaks all the Seals and the Greek word there is ...."as secriatum" which means literally.......RIGHT IN ORDER.

The rider on the white horse is the A/C. Now then..........the FOUR horsemen ride all through the Revelation from Chapter 6 to chapter 19.

Where your problem comes in is that between those Two chapter are what is called "PARENTHETICAL" chapters in which other information is given to us.

One of those is chapter 11 when the TWO Witnesses are seen. That is the middle of the 7 year Tribulation.

I fail then to see what your concern is!
Thank you for the reply. Progression is the correct word. Everything you say is not progression you have it all backwards. You call the white horse evil that is good, plus God has not taught you about the living creatures. It is good that you go to Greek but go in Hebrew also. I will tell you something that you will never forget. Same thing My Father taught me. The first will be last and the last will be first but the Sabbath is the last day and then and only then will you understand. There is not much time, the destroyer is coming.
 
Thank you for the reply. Progression is the correct word. Everything you say is not progression you have it all backwards. You call the white horse evil that is good, plus God has not taught you about the living creatures. It is good that you go to Greek but go in Hebrew also. I will tell you something that you will never forget. Same thing My Father taught me. The first will be last and the last will be first but the Sabbath is the last day and then and only then will you understand. There is not much time, the destroyer is coming.
Holy cow!!!

I did not say the white horse was evil!!

I said that The rider on the white horse is the Anti-christ and YOU can him good. He is the one who kills billions of people and says that he is god and you call him good.

I can not help but wonder who your father is when you say things like that.
 
Absolutley agreed. What is written in the Word of God is to be read and believed and the thoughts and visions and ideas of men are to be ignored
Thank you for your reply.

The Word of GOD is from everlasting to everlasting, the Word is GOD, GOD Himself, self-executing.

Isaiah 8:13-16 and 20
13 Sanctify the Lord of hosts himself; and let Him be your fear, and let Him be your dread.

14 And He shall be for a sanctuary; but for a stone of stumbling and for a rock of offence to both the houses of Israel, for a gin and for a snare to the inhabitants of Jerusalem.

15 And many among them shall stumble, and fall, and be broken, and be snared, and be taken.

16 Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples.
20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this Word, it is because there is no light in them.

1John 5:7
There are three that bear record(testify)in heaven(heaven? Ephesians 1:3-8),the Father(GOD Father),the Word (the Word made flesh-JESUS), and the Holy Spirit (who is a person, the Paraclete, the Comfort-John 15:26 and 16:12-15, and Revelation 11:4: and these three are One.

Revelation 19;10 - ...the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

Romans 8:9 - ... if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of His.

May our Lord GOD bless us, and keep us, and give us His protection
Amen
 
Holy cow!!!

I did not say the white horse was evil!!

I said that The rider on the white horse is the Anti-christ and YOU can him good. He is the one who kills billions of people and says that he is god and you call him good.

I can not help but wonder who your father is when you say things like that.
So you are calling Christians the anti-Christ for they are like Jesus spreading the gospel and by war they won wars and then sent missionary's to them country's (the two witnesses). Back to the First Trumpet ! you have it before any other trumpet but if all grass is gone, it is the end of earth, because nothing will grow if grass can't grow, then if the interpretation is man are grass still it is the end still. Any one hearing these words will know the truth. After the first trumpet comes the Sabbath the seventh trumpet, Jesus collects his, then the seventh vial at that time earth is destroyed split in three pieces and make up moons in the new heavens. The seventy week of Daniel that someone has made up is totally off base and what I speak is the WORD OF GOD
 
Absolutley agreed. What is written in the Word of God is to be read and believed and the thoughts and visions and ideas of men are to be ignored.

Just because we have Ezekiel making his bold statements , to say the least , doesn't mean there will not be Christians having dreams and visions that are going to come to pass .

Acts 2:17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

But remember this ! You must test the spirits .

1 John 4​
1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
 
Just because we have Ezekiel making his bold statements , to say the least , doesn't mean there will not be Christians having dreams and visions that are going to come to pass .

Acts 2:17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

But remember this ! You must test the spirits .

1 John 4​
1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
I understand your comment brother but I can not agree with it.

I do not believe thaat Acts 2 applies to us today as it was a quote from Joel focused on the "Last Days".

Yes, we must test the spirits to see if they are from God or Satan and the test is to be by the written Word od God as out authority. Without that then everything becomes an "opinion"!
 
So you are calling Christians the anti-Christ for they are like Jesus spreading the gospel and by war they won wars and then sent missionary's to them country's (the two witnesses). Back to the First Trumpet ! you have it before any other trumpet but if all grass is gone, it is the end of earth, because nothing will grow if grass can't grow, then if the interpretation is man are grass still it is the end still. Any one hearing these words will know the truth. After the first trumpet comes the Sabbath the seventh trumpet, Jesus collects his, then the seventh vial at that time earth is destroyed split in three pieces and make up moons in the new heavens. The seventy week of Daniel that someone has made up is totally off base and what I speak is the WORD OF GOD
My dear friend.....I have to ask you, why in the world do YOU palce words in the mouths of those who do not agree with your opinions?????

Pay attention.........."I did not say Christians are the anti-Christ". That is utter non-sense!
I believe that your opinions are incorrect and I do not agree with them.


Would you please quote the Scriptures that say the "Rider on the white horse is a Christian spreading the gospel" as you just claimed??????

You are free to say what ever you think and I am free to disagree with those opinions.. I use the Bible, the Word God as my authority and you seem to use your personal opinions!

The 70 weeks of Danel were not "that someone has made up is totally off base". ..........
Daniel 9:24-27------
“Seventy weeks are decreed about your people and your holy city, to finish the transgression, to put an end to sin, and to atone for iniquity, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal both vision and prophet, and to anoint a most holy place.25Know therefore and understand that from the going out of the word to restore and build Jerusalem to the coming of an anointed one, a prince, there shall be seven weeks. Then for sixty-two weeks it shall be built again with squares and moat, but in a troubled time.26And after the sixty-two weeks, an anointed one shall be cut off and shall have nothing. And the people of the prince who is to come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. Its end shall come with a flood, and to the end there shall be war. Desolations are decreed.27And he shall make a strong covenant with many for one week, and for half of the week he shall put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of abominations shall come one who makes desolate, until the decreed end is poured out on the desolator.”

If.....IF you had done just a little serious Bible work you would have learned that the number “seventy” appeared earlier in chapter 9 when the prophet was reading in the book of Jeremiah about the desolations of Jerusalem ending after “seventy years” of captivity (v. 2). Gabriel’s message played upon the “seventy” and promised “seventy sevens” or “seventy weeks.” And if the “seventy” in Gabriel’s message played on the “seventy” from Jeremiah 25:11–12 (cf. Dan. 9:2), it is reasonable to assume the “sevens/weeks” played on the years of Daniel 9:2 as well. A decree of “seventy sevens/weeks” then Biblically meant 490 years (70 × 7).
 
Thank you for your reply.

The Word of GOD is from everlasting to everlasting, the Word is GOD, GOD Himself, self-executing.

Isaiah 8:13-16 and 20
13 Sanctify the Lord of hosts himself; and let Him be your fear, and let Him be your dread.

14 And He shall be for a sanctuary; but for a stone of stumbling and for a rock of offence to both the houses of Israel, for a gin and for a snare to the inhabitants of Jerusalem.

15 And many among them shall stumble, and fall, and be broken, and be snared, and be taken.

16 Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples.
20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this Word, it is because there is no light in them.

1John 5:7
There are three that bear record(testify)in heaven(heaven? Ephesians 1:3-8),the Father(GOD Father),the Word (the Word made flesh-JESUS), and the Holy Spirit (who is a person, the Paraclete, the Comfort-John 15:26 and 16:12-15, and Revelation 11:4: and these three are One.

Revelation 19;10 - ...the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

Romans 8:9 - ... if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of His.

May our Lord GOD bless us, and keep us, and give us His protection
Amen
Amen and Amen!
 
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