A Curious thing.....Paul in cahoots with the Romans?

[Georges]

George,

You give me a headache. Would you stop nitpicking Paul? Remember Jesus selected him as His servant? I hope you are not obsessed with ostracizing him.

nit picking a potential/probable false prophet....? Sorry Ginger, no can do...best I can suggest is either read it and take a couple of aspirin ...and pick the argument apart, or don't and get on with life...

Ginger, even Balaam was God's servant to serve his purpose....why does God send false prophets into the world? Ans...to test his people and see who is awake and true to His/Jehovah's word. That's biblical...

Deu 13:3 Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.

So I will nitpick until someone proves Paul righteous in his intent to my satifaction, then I will accept him.

 

[Georges]

and....hang in there....I'm fixin to burn out on the forums....give everyones ears a rest....

 

[gingercat]

If you are in mood of nit picking, come and help me nit pick the popular churches. I have been swarmed with opposers. I could use some help.

 

[Georges]

If you are in mood of nit picking, come and help me nit pick the popular churches. I have been swarmed with opposers. I could use some help.

Ginger....I'm nitpicking the root of your problem....the begining of it all.

Pauline Christianity....the Churches you nitpick are a direct result of that.


Nazarene Judaism is how I percieve "Christianity" should ideally be. That's what it had started out as....

 

[gingercat]

George,

I dont agree with your opinion about Paul and I am not one of the pupular churches.

You just watch them gang attack me :

 

[Georges]

George,

I dont agree with your opinion about Paul and I am not one of the pupular churches.

That's fine...that would include you in the very vast majority regarding Paul (can't touch the golden boy)...you asked me why don't I aid you....and actually, I am. I'm testing the validity of the messenger of the Gospel.

You just watch them gang attack me :

awh.....you're a big girl....somehow I think you can handle it....

 

[Relic]

Nazarene Judaism is how I percieve "Christianity" should ideally be. That's what it had started out as....

Nazarene Judaism .....

Just curious, and as far as I know, beside the fact that the Messianic Jews do not oppose the teachings of Paul, what is your view on the differences between Nazarene Judaism and the Messianic Jew, if any?

Thanks.

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[Georges]

Nazarene Judaism is how I percieve "Christianity" should ideally be. That's what it had started out as....

Nazarene Judaism .....

Just curious, and as far as I know, beside the fact that the Messianic Jews do not oppose the teachings of Paul,

Uh...yes they do...that's why Paul was called to the carpet in Jerusalem...that's why Peter wrote his Epstile to James (non cannon Pseudo Clementine) to combat what Paul had been teaching...and historical documents state the Nazarean/Ebionites considered Paul an Apostate....So if he is an Apostate, it would be to Nazarene Judaism..

what is your view on the differences between Nazarene Judaism and the Messianic Jew, if any?

The Nazarene Jews were Messianic Jews....If you are asking by today's standards.....today's Messianic Jew (majority I believe) may accept Paul as a valid teacher (not 100% sure on that) where the Nazarenes (early church and not to be confused with the "modern" Nazarene church of Christ, did not.

Thanks.

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From....[url]http://www.jewishencyclopedia.c ... =nazarenes[/url]


.....The Nazarenes, then, recognized Jesus, though it appears from occasional references to them that they considered the Mosaic law binding only for those born within Judaism, while the Ebionites considered this law binding for all men (Hippolytus, "Comm. in Jes." i. 12). The Nazarenes therefore rejected Paul, the apostle to the Gentiles. Some accordingly declared even that the Nazarenes were Jews, as, for instance, Theodoret ("Hær. Fab." ii. 2: οἱ δὲ Ναζωραῖοι Ἰουδαῖοί εἰσι); that they exalted Jesus as a just man, and that they read the Gospel of Peter; fragments of this Gospel of Peter have been preserved (Preuschen, l.c. p. 13). Aside from these references, Theodoret, however, makes the mistake of confounding the Nazarenes and Ebionites; he is the last one of the Church Fathers to refer to the Nazarenes, who probably were absorbed in the course of the fifth century partly by Judaism and partly by Christianity.
The Nazarenes, then, recognized Jesus, though it appears from occasional references to them that they considered the Mosaic law binding only for those born within Judaism, while the Ebionites considered this law binding for all men (Hippolytus, "Comm. in Jes." i. 12). The Nazarenes therefore rejected Paul, the apostle to the Gentiles. Some accordingly declared even that the Nazarenes were Jews, as, for instance, Theodoret ("Hær. Fab." ii. 2: οἱ δὲ Ναζωραῖοι Ἰουδαῖοί εἰσι); that they exalted Jesus as a just man, and that they read the Gospel of Peter; fragments of this Gospel of Peter have been preserved (Preuschen, l.c. p. 13). Aside from these references, Theodoret, however, makes the mistake of confounding the Nazarenes and Ebionites; he is the last one of the Church Fathers to refer to the Nazarenes, who probably were absorbed in the course of the fifth century partly by Judaism and partly by Christianity.


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