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An Open Debate on the Trinity with JLB

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I guess I was guessing - what do you mean by "Two beings called God because they are both Deity".
It sounds to me like the Trinity...
 

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It's a two-way street, You don't just get to use linguistical crowbars to pry away at the Trinity. We can also see just what it is you believe too.
Be my guest- and I can always take what you've got....maybe I'm jumping the gun, too- what do you mean by "Are these two separate Gods? or are they like the H2O example(water and ice)? two separate manifestations of the same God?"

Serious- or just trying to understand?
 
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Be my guest- and I can always take what you've got....maybe I'm jumping the gun, too- what do you mean by "Are these two separate Gods? or are they like the H2O example(water and ice)? two separate manifestations of the same God?"

Serious- or just trying to understand?
Trying to get an exact understanding what it is Butch believes.
 

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I guess I was guessing - what do you mean by "Two beings called God because they are both Deity".
It sounds to me like the Trinity...
Firstly, the Trinity is three. The Bible clearly calls both Father and Jesus theos or God. I believe your translation even renders John 1:1, 'the word was a god', correct? Clearly the Father and Jesus aren't the same being. So, if they are both called theos or God, how is what I said wrong?
 
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Water and ice are the same thing. They're just two different states of H2o. That would be Modalism. What I'm saying is that they are two different beings or persons. It's just like when a woman has a baby. There are two different people.
You jest!
Jehovah, Jesus, the angels, the demons are SPIRIT beings, not human beings!
The angels are holy too!

What you talking about is a DIFFENT SPECIES, or a CLONING!
 

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Firstly, the Trinity is three. The Bible clearly calls both Father and Jesus theos or God. I believe your translation even renders John 1:1, 'the word was a god', correct? Clearly the Father and Jesus aren't the same being. So, if they are both called theos or God, how is what I said wrong?
No.
Their not.

God is NOT a son (nor a 'Holy Ghost-God).
But His son is is- a firstborn a beginning of all God's creation!
Have you forgotten????
 

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It's all the Father's plan. It's not about subordination.
Does the fact that He's ALMIGHTY have anything to do with it?
Three Almighties is Triune Polytheism, no matter the cheap cop-out that they are "One God"!
 
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You jest!
Jehovah, Jesus, the angels, the demons are SPIRIT beings, not human beings!
The angels are holy too!

What you talking about is a DIFFENT SPECIES, or a CLONING!
What is a breathual being? Also, Jesus is a human being. Like I said before, everyone has stuff wrong so, you shouldn't make fun of others beliefs.
 

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No.
Their not.

God is NOT a son (nor a 'Holy Ghost-God).
But His son is is- a firstborn a beginning of all God's creation!
Have you forgotten????
Tri mean three. I didn't say there were three so how does that sound like a trinity to you? No, God, the Father is not a son. Yes, the Son is the first born of all creation. I posted that passage already. Yes, the Holy Spirit is a manifestation of the Father.
 

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Tri mean three. I didn't say there were three so how does that sound like a trinity to you? No, God, the Father is not a son. Yes, the Son is the first born of all creation. I posted that passage already. Yes, the Holy Spirit is a manifestation of the Father.
The Father
God-the-Son, and
the Holy Ghost-God are three.

Am I getting you right?
 

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The Father
God-the-Son, and
the Holy Ghost-God are three.

Am I getting you right?
The Bible speaks of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. But they are not three persons. The Holy Spirit is a manifestation of the Father. The Father is the Father, Jesus is His Son, a different being. Two beings, the Father and the Son.
 
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