lecoop said:Nadab, do you listen to the Everly brothers? Your post reminded me of their famous song, "dream dream dream."
First off, you based this entire post on a falacy: John was in the spirit on SUNDAY, the day that Jesus rose from the dead. He was not transported in the future, for the vision of the throne room, was a vision of HIS PAST, back to a time before Jesus rose from the dead.
You have built a sand castle. God established his heavenly kingdom before the earth was created. The kingdom that is to be set up, is the PHYSICAL kingdom, and its time is close, but not here yet.
(Dan. 2:44)
You have totally missed the intent of the author: the first seal was broken about 33 AD. Where was Jesus then? Of course, just as John showed Him in the vision, He had just ascended, went straight to the Father and got the book, and began breaking the seals.
Daniel tells us of two "little horns." In Daniel 7, the little horn is to represent the beast of Rev. 13. But in Daniel 8, that little horn came from Alexander the Great's kingdom after his death; and refers to Antiochus Epiphanes.
Coop
The "Lord's day" that John said that he was "by inspiration...came to be in", was not Sunday. Rather, John was transported by God's spirit far into the future from the time of about 96 C.E., while he was on the isle of Patmos.(Rev 1:9, 10) By means of a series of visions, God unveiled to John events that would occur during this time period. Had the "Lord's day" been in the past, all John would have have had to do would look at past history.
However, God gave a picturesque view of how his people would be impacted during the "Lord's day" by Satan and his corrupt worldly institutions that he created and rules over, such as the "wild beast" of Revelation 13, the revealing of the "harlot", "seventh king", and "eighth king" at Revelation 17, the command by God for his "people" to "get out of " Babylon the Great, the world empire of false religion, and her subsequent destruction at Revelation 18, the complete removal of all human governments at Revelation 19, the abyssing of Satan and his demons, the doing away with Adamic death and the grave at Revelation 20, the bringing in of "new heavens and a new earth", God's Messianic kingdom and it's earthly subjects, the complete wiping out of the "former heavens and the former earth...and sea", the corrupt human governmental arrangements and their supporters, along with the restless masses of mankind, and the restoring of obedient mankind to perfection in which "death will be no more" and in which God is "making all things new" on the earth at Revelation 21 and 22.
The "first seal" was opened in 1914, with Jesus beginning his ride on the "white horse" and being given "a crown", meaning rulership of God's kingdom, and immediately following, the rider of the "fiery-colored horse", whereby it was ' granted to take peace away from the earth so that they should slaughter one another ' as a result of the "second seal" being opened.(Rev 6:4) Any credible historian can readily identify with the events that started World War I and the history that quickly followed.
With the opening of the "third seal", a rider on a "black horse" came forth, this being famine that became common in many parts of the world, as a direct result of World War I.(Rev 6:5, 6) With the opening of the "fourth seal", a rider on a "pale horse" called "Death" came forth, with "Hades...closely following him." This rider was given authority to "over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with a long sword...and with deadly plague."(Rev 6:8)
What "deadly plague" came forward to snuff out lives on a global scale not long after Jesus began his ride on the "white horse" ? Following the end of WWI, the Spanish influenza broke out, lasting from March 1918 to June 1920. Following in the wake of the ravages of World War I, the Spanish flu reaped perhaps over 50 million human lives in just a few months of 1918-19. The only territory on earth to escape this scourge was the small island of St. Helena. In places where the population was decimated, funeral pyres were lit to burn the piles of bodies.
Wikipedia made this note: "The Spanish flu lasted from March 1918 to June 1920, spreading even to the Arctic and remote Pacific islands. While older estimates put the number of killed at 40–50 million people, current estimates are that 50 million to 100 million people worldwide died, higher than the number killed in World War I. This extraordinary toll resulted from the extremely high infection rate of up to 50% and the extreme severity of the symptoms, suspected to be caused by cytokine storms."
Notes John M. Barry, in his book The Great Influenza (2004): “Influenza killed more people in a year than the Black Death of the Middle Ages killed in a century; it killed more people in twenty-four weeks than AIDS has killed in twenty-four years.†Thus, 1918-1920 Spanish flu pandemic has been the worse to ever to hit the face of the earth in history. Thus, with Jesus being given "a crown" in 1914, momentous events have followed that we are experiencing today.