Re: children
reznwerks said:
gingercat said:
Novum, you cannot find God if you are using your intellect too much.
God is all about your heart. We have to have child-like minds if we are seeking God.
Thats the issue that gets to the heart of the matter. It is children that are so gullible and that is why they just believe what is told them. When you grow up and question you realize the truth for what it is and if it is.Self delusion is very comforting and very real.
reznworks, its one thing when we "just believe what is told us" and its another when you
experiance what hasnt been told us. why are you on these forums? to get us to believe what "you tell us"? no offence and i say all this with love. all i see is you and novum on here trying to tear away peoples hope. that cant be a good feeling, like telling a child on christmas eve that santa is momy and daddy and dont realy exist. that may not be the case but thats kinda what it looks like. what you dont understand is, the hope we have cant be torn away, especially by "intellect." the "holy ghost" is real to us, its not just some fairy tail we like to believe in. i could see the points of your arguements if we were just going by words writen in a book but thats not the case. we have experianced Him in our lives.
it would be like you going outside and getting knocked over by a big gust of wind and some one trying to tell you "oh no no no no no bro, theres no such thing as the wind dude, i know just cause i havnt ever felt this wind blow on me. dont be childlike and say the wind blows."
and Self delusion could be very comforting and very real. but so could humbling yourself to a man who has done no wrong and brought only a love like you have never known. but was beatin, humiliated, sufferd and died for you so you could truly know love, His love. whether it be "self delusional" or the Truth, theres nothing like it i have ever experiance in my whole life. and yes ive dun it all. everything the world has to offer ive been apart of it.
dont you see that
most of these people on here talk with you and tell you what they do, not because they think you should be child like and believe in fairy tails like they do, or because they want to be right and dont want there faith questioned, but all they realy want is for you to know Love, Peace and Hope like you never known. they want you to know the love of God. you will say "i know love, peace and hope." but the Truth is.........if you dont know Jesus, you dont truly know it. the diffrence in our love, hope and peace and yours cant be explained only experianced. we give our time talking to you guys outta love, because we want you to know and experiance this, so you dont have to go through life without hope, while you constantly try and tear away our Hope that leads us to try and love, help and show you the way.
lets do it like this.........
you got
"your truth" vs. "our self delusion"
since neither can be disproved scientifacly, check it out.
"your truth"
1. no hope all through your life.
2. when you die you stop existing.
3. you go through your whole life with no hope, not knowing why your here and where your going, putting up with the bs that life brings, and in the end is was all for nothing anyway because now you dont exist and never did.
"our self delusion"
1. you have hope, a reason to live.
2. when you die you go to a place where there is no sorrow for eternity.
3. you go through our whole life, with hope in Christ, and know its all worth something, seeing and knowing why your here and where you are going. truely knowing love peace and hope, and in the end you get to live eternaly with our Savior and without sorrow for eternity where you will be rewarded for what you have done here in His name.
wich one using our intellect would anybody, with some intellect, choose?
thats just if you look at like you have nothing to go by but thoughts and not the
experiance of "being born again"
yall constantly try and tear away and dicredit my Savior, our Savior. a Savior that without a shadow of a doubt, if it wasnt for, i would be in prison or dead and on my way to hell. a Savior that pulled me outta the pits of hell already, a Savior that is more real to me than the computer in front of my face, a Savior i owe every single breath to, be it "self delusion" or whatever you want to call it, we set that aside and day after day people on here still try and show you the way to a Love like you have never known. why is that? what would cause use to keep on pulling for yall instead of getting pissed off and fed up with your "savior bashing" and saying "to hell with you"?
......................................The Love of God......................................
im pullin for you Novum and reznworks, not cause when you finaly believe i can say you was wrong and we were right haha. no, but because Jesus loves you, and so do we.
later
