Call No Man Father

[donadams]

Salvation has nothing to do with indulgences!

nor do indulgences have anything to do with the forgiveness of sin!

Salvation is God’s mercy to us thru His church by grace thru the sacraments!

An indulgence is a merit of Jesus Christ thru his blood passion and death! Jn 1:16 & 1:29

Cannot sell indulgences
There were indulgences granted to those who supported the building of saint peters, not selling, (donations) but if you chose to make a donation you could get an indulgence, but there were and are many other ways to get them without making a donation! Not a requirement

You did something and got a favorable response, like buying a dozen dognuts and get one free, they may accuse you cannot selling 13 but you actually only sold 12 and gave one free.

Salvation is of grace with mercy and the forgiveness of sins, but the temporal punishment due to sin Christ did not take away, just like he did not take away our sin nature and restore up to the state of innocence in the garden.

Example: a child breaks a window with his baseball, his father forgives him totally, but the child work and earn money to pay for the window, and we must pray, fast, alms, penance, carry our cross and practice Christian virtues to expiate the temporal punishment due to our sins, God provides for everything in His goodness and gives us ample means to do this, and it purifies our souls in this life or if not he also provides a means of purification in the next.

And we can pray for and do penance and gain indulgences for those being purified since they are in the communion of saints like us and those already perfected in heaven!

An indulgence can only be applied to the punishment due for sins already forgiven!
From Christ’s merits! Jn 1:16-17

 

[donadams]

And Mary said:

“My soul magnifies the Lord,
47And my spirit has rejoiced in God my Savior.

Why would a sinless person need a savior?

Yes Jesus Christ is savior in two ways He forgives our past sins and by the power of His Grace preserves us from sin, Mary was preserved from original and all sin by the merits of Christ! Lk 1:49

Mary and all the saints obtained grace, virtues, and merits from God’s infinite goodness, mercy and love and their praises end in the glory of Christ the source of all grace and of God. Jn 1:16-17 Lk 1:49

Not by nature but by supernatural grace!

Mary and the saints are what God made them not according nature but by the supernatural grace of God!
Lk 1:49

Glory to God for His mighty works and grace and mercy in His saints!
2 thes 1:10

Mary found our salvation! Lk 1:30

It was Mary who found Jesus when He was lost in the temple!


The all holy God cannot unite and conceive in Mary unless she is immaculate purity!

Lk 1:28 And the angel being come in, said unto her: Hail, full of grace, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.
29 Who having heard, was troubled at his saying, and thought with herself what manner of salutation this should be.
30 And the angel said to her: Fear not, Mary, for thou hast found grace with God.
31 Behold thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and shalt bring forth a son; and thou shalt call his name Jesus.
32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the most High; and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of David his father; and he shall reign in the house of Jacob for ever.
33 And of his kingdom there shall be no end.
34 And Mary said to the angel: How shall this be done, because I know not man?
35 And the angel answering, said to her: The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the most High shall overshadow thee. And therefore also the Holy which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

Anything consecrated to God must be pure, holy and for God’s service alone!

There is only one “Handmaid of the Lord”! Lk 1:28

Faithful humble handmaid Lk 1:45 Lk 1:48

There is only one “Mother of our Savior” who consented to our salvation undoing the sin of Eve! Lk 1:38

Mary found our salvation lost by Adam! Lk 1:30

Consented to our salvation! Lk 1:38

Thanks

 

[donadams]

Mary all powerful advocate!
Help of Christian’s!

Mary ever virgin, mother of God, is all powerful in her prayers!

Mary’s prayers are all powerful not cos she is God but because her son is God!

and on becoming man He (Jesus) obeyed his own commandments

you might check out the one that says “honor Thy father and mother”

“My hour has not come”

The time set by almighty God for the public ministry of Christ had not come, Jesus Christ still performed the miracle cos his mother interceded, thus a higher law, “honor thy father and mother” if ANYONE else asked it would NOT have been done!
John 2

and cos of her intercession the disciples believed in Him!
Jn 2:11

There is another point that Jesus is making when he says: what does it have to do with you and me? My hour hath not yet come. Indicating that when it does come Mary will have a prominent role to play. See Lk 2:35

 

[donadams]

Blessing from God thru Mary!

All graces come to us they Mary, from God by the merits (blood) of Christ!
Jn 1:16
Of His fullness we have all received, grace for grace!

Found our Salvation Lk 1:30
Consented to our salvation Lk 1:38
Mother of Christ Matt 1:16
Mother of the word Jn 1:1
Mother of our savior Matt 1:21
Mother of our salvation Lk 2:30
Our mother Jn 19:26-27

By Mary’s intercession Christ is presented to be worshipped by the angels, shepherds, and the kings at the stable! Cos Mary found the grace of our salvation! Lk 1:30

Elizabeth filled with the Holy Spirit!

Lk 1:41 And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost:

John sanctified in the womb!

Lk 1:15 For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb.

Lk 1:44 For, lo, as soon as the voice of thy salutation sounded in mine ears, the babe leaped in my womb for joy.

Zacharias is filled with the Holy Spirit and prophecy!

Lk 1:67 And his father Zacharias was filled with the Holy Ghost, and prophesied, saying,

The wedding couple have wine and not shame!

Jn 2: 10 And saith unto him, Every man at the beginning doth set forth good wine; and when men have well drunk, then that which is worse: but thou hast kept the good wine until now.

The disciples are supplied with faith, hope, and charity!

11 This beginning of miracles did Jesus in Cana of Galilee, and manifested forth his glory; and his disciples believed on him.

Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Mary found this grace! Lk 1:30
Mary believed for us! Lk 1:45
Mother of our salvation! Lk 2:30

All these blessings from God because of Mary most holy!

Mother of divine grace!

Mary is the divine treasury the Throne of grace! Heb 4:16

 

[Hopeful 2]

Catholics are sometimes accused of contradicting scripture because they call their priests "Father" but Jesus said (Mt 23:9):
And call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven.

But is there really a contradiction?
Jesus himself uses the term in later in the same chapter (vs 32.)
Jesus refers to Abraham as father in Lk 16:24, as does James in Jas 2:21.
Paul writes “For though you have countless guides in Christ, you do not have many fathers. For I became your father in Christ Jesus through the gospel.” (1Cor 4:15)
Matthew repeatedly refers to fathers in Matt 10:21-37, 15:4-6
John writes “I am writing to you, fathers, because you know him who is from the beginning.” (1Jn 2:13)
And there are more examples I could give.

So what is going on?
What is going on is the logical fallacy of equivocation in the use of “call” – using a word with two different meanings.
The Collins Concise Dictionary gives 28 [yes, twenty eight] different meanings to the verb “call”. Some of these are specialist terms (e.g. to “call” at poker)
Here are two of them
8. (tr) to name or style: they called the dog Rover.
9. (tr) designate: they called him a coward.
or as the Concise Oxford English Dictionary [less comprehensive with only 8 meanings] puts it:- “[3.] give a specified name to. address by a specified name, title, etc.”
Catholics address or give their priests a title of Father. But this is not the same meaning as Jesus was using in Mt 23:9

According to a Greek Orthodox priest, who is also a Greek translator, the word translated “call” in Mt 23:9 is misunderstood. I do not understand the technicalities of Greek but apparently the word used (kalesete) is not any of those used to imply a name or title, but means summon or call forth and is in the second person aorist active subjunctive plural form (and no, I don’t understand what that is!).

This would be the following from the Collins Concise Dictionary
1. to speak out or utter (words, sounds etc.) loudly so as to attract attention
2. (tr) to ask or order to come
or as the Concise Oxford English Dictionary put it:- “[1.] cry out to (someone) in order to summon them or attract their attention.”

The issue does not arise in the Greek because two different words are used.
In Mt 23:9 the Greek is kalesete.
But the Greek word for call in the sense of addressing someone is legeis as in this example (Lk 18:18-19)
And a ruler asked him, “Good Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?” And Jesus said to him, “Why do you call [legeis] me good? No one is good but God alone.

Here is an example using both meanings
As he walked by the Sea of Galilee, he saw two brothers, Simon who is called Peter and Andrew his brother, casting a net into the sea; for they were fishermen. And he said to them, "Follow me, and I will make you fishers of men." Immediately they left their nets and followed him. And going on from there he saw two other brothers, James the son of Zebedee and John his brother, in the boat with Zebedee their father, mending their nets, and he called them. (Mt 4:18-21)

Here are the two uses of called. The first meaning named or addressed (Simon who is called Peter) is legomenon (Strong 3004). The second is call in the sense of call out to (he called them) ekalesen (Strong 2564)

Wouldn't it be easier to just not call any man father than to look for ways to disobey the Lord ?

 

[Mungo]

Wouldn't it be easier to just not call any man father than to look for ways to disobey the Lord ?

So Jesus was wrong to call men father?

Paul was wrong to call a man father?

John was wrong to call men father?

The answer is NO to all three. It's not disobeying the Lord

 

[TheDeafMan]

I'll just make these points and then move on since it's clear than any further arguing would be pointless. None of the men you mentioned, Augustine, Origin, etc. are scripture, that is, their thoughts are their thoughts only so their 'proof' is simply their own belief. Purgatory is completely unbiblical and is a purely Catholic invention, a fantasy. Paul said that
'today is the day of salvation' meaning, put it off at your peril. Again, no second chances, none, when you're dead, you're dead and your destiny is determined. It is useless to pray, buy candles, etc. for anyone already dead. When Jesus was on the cross, why did he say "It is finished"? What was finished? Answer: The means of salvation. His death paid completely for our sins. No need for anything further. Belief, that's all.

As for Mary, ... a woman of honor, no doubt. But Mary has no role, no part in salvation, none, zero. Nor do the saints, the Pope or anyone else except Jesus. Think about this ... how many times does the Bible need to say something for it to be true? Answer: once. So, in Hebrews we read, "for there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, so, one mediator. No reason or command to pray to Mary or the saints for salvation or any kind of help. And, personally, I don't believe that Mary has ever appeared to anyone after her death for any reason. Those supposed 'appearances' were, I believe, demonic manifestations to deceive people. If, If Mary ever legitimately appeared, I think she would say something like, "Will you stop worshipping me and putting statues everywhere and worship my son Jesus only! He is the one who died on the cross, not me!"

Indulgences ... You can 't remove sin with good works. Sin is sin and one sin, small or large is enough to send us to hell. Indulgences are another attempt by the RC to pervert the simple gospel truth and to raise money for their gaudy cathedrals.

Confession to priests ... First, many, maybe most priests, are, I think, godly men and very likely, true Christians and will be in Heaven. That said, sins are forgiven by God, not anyone else. And saying 'hail Marys', etc. is useless. As is praying the rosary.

Rather than indulge in more arguing, let me refer you to the site of GotQuestions.org. At the search bar, type Catholic Questions. They do a much better job of pointing out the errors of Catholicism than I ever could. Remember what I said about true beliefs being able to stand up to scrutiny? Finally, I wish you the best. I do think that there are many true and Godly believers in the RC church. But there is much, much error there as well. There is salvation in only one name, that of Jesus. He and he alone, should be worshipped. He is our salvation and our only resource for strength and truth. Go to that web site. Take care of yourself. DM

 

[GodsGrace]

I'll just make these points and then move on since it's clear than any further arguing would be pointless. None of the men you mentioned, Augustine, Origin, etc. are scripture, that is, their thoughts are their thoughts only so their 'proof' is simply their own belief. Purgatory is completely unbiblical and is a purely Catholic invention, a fantasy. Paul said that
'today is the day of salvation' meaning, put it off at your peril. Again, no second chances, none, when you're dead, you're dead and your destiny is determined. It is useless to pray, buy candles, etc. for anyone already dead. When Jesus was on the cross, why did he say "It is finished"? What was finished? Answer: The means of salvation. His death paid completely for our sins. No need for anything further. Belief, that's all.

As for Mary, ... a woman of honor, no doubt. But Mary has no role, no part in salvation, none, zero. Nor do the saints, the Pope or anyone else except Jesus. Think about this ... how many times does the Bible need to say something for it to be true? Answer: once. So, in Hebrews we read, "for there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, so, one mediator. No reason or command to pray to Mary or the saints for salvation or any kind of help. And, personally, I don't believe that Mary has ever appeared to anyone after her death for any reason. Those supposed 'appearances' were, I believe, demonic manifestations to deceive people. If, If Mary ever legitimately appeared, I think she would say something like, "Will you stop worshipping me and putting statues everywhere and worship my son Jesus only! He is the one who died on the cross, not me!"

Indulgences ... You can 't remove sin with good works. Sin is sin and one sin, small or large is enough to send us to hell. Indulgences are another attempt by the RC to pervert the simple gospel truth and to raise money for their gaudy cathedrals.

Confession to priests ... First, many, maybe most priests, are, I think, godly men and very likely, true Christians and will be in Heaven. That said, sins are forgiven by God, not anyone else. And saying 'hail Marys', etc. is useless. As is praying the rosary.

Rather than indulge in more arguing, let me refer you to the site of GotQuestions.org. At the search bar, type Catholic Questions. They do a much better job of pointing out the errors of Catholicism than I ever could. Remember what I said about true beliefs being able to stand up to scrutiny? Finally, I wish you the best. I do think that there are many true and Godly believers in the RC church. But there is much, much error there as well. There is salvation in only one name, that of Jesus. He and he alone, should be worshipped. He is our salvation and our only resource for strength and truth. Go to that web site. Take care of yourself. DM

Hey Deafman,
I'm not Catholic but I don't care for GotQuestions.
Why would you refer to them for any theology?
If I wanted to make statements about a denomination, I'd go to THEIR source and try to find out WHY
they believe as they do.
They might have a good reason.
BTW, Catholics only worship God/Jesus/Holy Spirit - the One God.
They don't worship any other being.

 

[TheDeafMan]

I've read the various Catholic statements of faith/belief from their own websites, but rather than condense their explanations and sources on my own, I will let other more professional people do that. The GotQuestions site does a good job of explaining not only Catholic beliefs but others as well. I find them credible, if you do not like their site or explanations, well, ok, it's a free county, for a while yet anyway. What I said in an earlier post still goes though, if any belief system, like Catholicism, is true, it will hold up under close scrutiny. Would the Catholic belief system? Unlikely.

 

[Hopeful 2]

So Jesus was wrong to call men father?

Paul was wrong to call a man father?

John was wrong to call men father?

The answer is NO to all three. It's not disobeying the Lord

It is against the Lord's will to call some so-called priest "father".

 

[Mungo]

It is against the Lord's will to call some so-called priest "father".

Let's try another approach to this.

Catholics don't call their priests father they address them as father. So no problem!

 

[Mungo]

I'll just make these points and then move on since it's clear than any further arguing would be pointless. None of the men you mentioned, Augustine, Origin, etc. are scripture, that is, their thoughts are their thoughts only so their 'proof' is simply their own belief. Purgatory is completely unbiblical and is a purely Catholic invention, a fantasy. Paul said that
'today is the day of salvation' meaning, put it off at your peril. Again, no second chances, none, when you're dead, you're dead and your destiny is determined. It is useless to pray, buy candles, etc. for anyone already dead. When Jesus was on the cross, why did he say "It is finished"? What was finished? Answer: The means of salvation. His death paid completely for our sins. No need for anything further. Belief, that's all.

As for Mary, ... a woman of honor, no doubt. But Mary has no role, no part in salvation, none, zero. Nor do the saints, the Pope or anyone else except Jesus. Think about this ... how many times does the Bible need to say something for it to be true? Answer: once. So, in Hebrews we read, "for there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, so, one mediator. No reason or command to pray to Mary or the saints for salvation or any kind of help. And, personally, I don't believe that Mary has ever appeared to anyone after her death for any reason. Those supposed 'appearances' were, I believe, demonic manifestations to deceive people. If, If Mary ever legitimately appeared, I think she would say something like, "Will you stop worshipping me and putting statues everywhere and worship my son Jesus only! He is the one who died on the cross, not me!"

Indulgences ... You can 't remove sin with good works. Sin is sin and one sin, small or large is enough to send us to hell. Indulgences are another attempt by the RC to pervert the simple gospel truth and to raise money for their gaudy cathedrals.

Confession to priests ... First, many, maybe most priests, are, I think, godly men and very likely, true Christians and will be in Heaven. That said, sins are forgiven by God, not anyone else. And saying 'hail Marys', etc. is useless. As is praying the rosary.

Rather than indulge in more arguing, let me refer you to the site of GotQuestions.org. At the search bar, type Catholic Questions. They do a much better job of pointing out the errors of Catholicism than I ever could. Remember what I said about true beliefs being able to stand up to scrutiny? Finally, I wish you the best. I do think that there are many true and Godly believers in the RC church. But there is much, much error there as well. There is salvation in only one name, that of Jesus. He and he alone, should be worshipped. He is our salvation and our only resource for strength and truth. Go to that web site. Take care of yourself. DM

If you are using GotQuestions.org it is no wonder you have so many misunderstandings of Catholic doctrine.
But can I remind you that the topic is "call no man father".
Your post is off topic.
Please keep to the topic.

 

[GodsGrace]

If you are using GotQuestions.org it is no wonder you have so many misunderstandings of Catholic doctrine.
But can I remind you that the topic is "call no man father".
Your post is off topic.
Please keep to the topic.

In all fairness the other member said he reads Catholic sites.

I had made the same comment to him.

 

[GodsGrace]

It is against the Lord's will to call some so-called priest "father".

Do a study on what the word CALL means in this case. There are different words in Greek for the English CALL.

 

[GodsGrace]

I've read the various Catholic statements of faith/belief from their own websites, but rather than condense their explanations and sources on my own, I will let other more professional people do that. The GotQuestions site does a good job of explaining not only Catholic beliefs but others as well. I find them credible, if you do not like their site or explanations, well, ok, it's a free county, for a while yet anyway. What I said in an earlier post still goes though, if any belief system, like Catholicism, is true, it will hold up under close scrutiny. Would the Catholic belief system? Unlikely.

Read my post no. 54

QotQuestions is biased and is a reformed site so everything theological is seen in that light.

They do have good articles but they need to be filtered. Just my two cents.

 

[Welshlady38]

I attend an Anglo-Catholic church and some of the vicars have the title ‘Father’ and some ‘Rev’. One of the women vicars has the title ‘Mother’. I don’t see the issue with ‘Father’ personally. It’s about context. I disagree with many things Catholic but this is not one of them.

 

[GodsGrace]

I attend an Anglo-Catholic church and some of the vicars have the title ‘Father’ and some ‘Rev’. One of the women vicars has the title ‘Mother’. I don’t see the issue with ‘Father’ personally. It’s about context. I disagree with many things Catholic but this is not one of them.

Hi WL
Nice to see you.

I agree with you 100%.
I'd encourage those that would like to understand Catholicism instead of just criticizing it, to find out the different meanings for Call in Greek.

A lot is lost in translation.

 

[Mungo]

Do a study on what the word CALL means in this case. There are different words in Greek for the English CALL.

It's not just the Greek.
As I pointed out in the OP "The Collins Concise Dictionary gives 28 [yes, twenty eight] different meanings to the verb “call”. Some of these are specialist terms (e.g. to “call” at poker)"
But hey! Who bothers to read the OP before piling in?

 

[donadams]

Salvation is only through the RC church. (it's not)
No graven images. (10 commandments which I know RCs alter)
Perpetual virginity of Mary. (She wasn 't, she was a sinner as we all are and had other children)
Purgatory. (Doesn't exist, never has, it is a mis-application of Luke story of rich man)
Bible is only authority. (So, no man made traditions, apocroprpha.)
Peter as first Pope. (He wasn't, the rock refers to belief in Jesus, that belief)

I've been warned to stop the apologetics against RCs, so I may be dropped from this thread, so if no response, that's why.

Are we really just Relying on our own private judgement of scripture?

Instead of Christ the light of the world, and the way, the truth, and the Life!

And Christ and His church are one unity in all truth and grace!

Really we are just believing in our own private fallible judgment!

When Christ established the church to teach and sanctify all men unto eternal salvation! Matt 28:19

Christians must be taught or instructed by the one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church! Lk 1:4
Matt 28:19, Lk 10:16, Jn 20:21
Acts 8:31, Colossians 2:7

Our understanding, study, interpretation, judgment, are all adding to scripture!


Truth known by “hearing” the apostles not the “Bible alone”!

1 John 4:6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

The apostles in person:

2 John 1:12
Having many things to write unto you, I would not write with paper and ink: but I trust to come unto you, and speak face to face, that our joy may be full.

Doctrine of the apostles: acts 2:42

And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.
Thanks

 

[donadams]

Salvation is only through the RC church. (it's not)

The new covenant church is the only ark of salvation and the initiation is “faith and baptism”!

The Christian sacrament* of baptismal regeneration is required for the new covenant and salvation!

*this promise acts 2:38-39 is a sacred oath from God ez 36:25-27 and a sacred oath is a sacrament!

Initiation!!!


Faith & Baptism is the initiation of the new and eternal covenant!

You cannot enter on you’re own or by “faith alone”!

You cannot receive Christ or grace by “faith alone”!

“Accept Christ as you’re personal lord and savior” is fundamentalist tradition not found scripture!

Jn 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

2 pet 1: 11 For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

Baptismal regeneration a new creation in Christ! 2 Cor 5:17

A sacrament is an oath! A sacred promise from God! Ez 36:25-27
Acts 2:38-39 (this promise)

No baptism no grace!

A sacrament is an outward sign for all men including infants And a gift from God to help us see what he does inwardly and invisibly by his grace!

As grace Washes our souls in the merits of Jesus blood from original and personal sin, so the outward action of washing is visible!

without the outward action the inward action cannot take place!

Jn 3:5 Titus 3:5 water and washing
acts 22:16 wash away your sin!

Jn 3:5 Born again BY water and the spirit! Not by “faith alone”!

They did not go to Jerusalem and preach “accept Christ as you’re personal Lord and savior “

They went to the river (water) and they baptized! Jn 3:22

A covenant requires an outward sign of the inward action of grace!

Ez 36:25 I will sprinkle you with clean water and you shall be made white as snow.

Acts 22:16 washing away your sins.

Eph 4:5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism.

1 pet 3:21 baptism saves you.

You cannot enter on you’re own or by faith alone!

2 pet 1: 11 For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

Heb 2:11 For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,


Baptism!

God breathed life into Adam, gen 2:7 and we received this life from our fathers!

Christ breathed on the apostles our spiritual fathers, we receive the new covenant life of God’s grace from them thru faith & baptism! Jn 20:21-23 Mk 16:16 acts 8:36-38 eph 2

Born again! Born from above!

'The Father has set his seal' on Christ (John 6:27) and also seals us in him (cf. 2 Corinthians 1:22; Ephesians 1:23, 4:30). Because this seal indicates the indelible effect of the anointing with the Holy Spirit in the sacrament of Baptism,

Baptism indeed is the seal of eternal life." 87 The faithful Christian who I has "kept the seal" until the end, remaining faithful to the demands of his Baptism, will be able to depart this life "marked with the sign of faith," 88 with his baptismal faith, in expectation of the blessed vision of God - the consummation of faith - and in the hope of resurrection.

St. Paul tells the faithful at Ephesus that they have been “sealed with the promised Holy Spirit.” This is in terms of an indelible character imprinted on the soul in the sacraments of baptism and confirmation. It is not as if this invisible mark is simply decorative. Rather, through it, we are enabled to participate in Christ’s mission and in his offices of priest, prophet, and king. Eph 1:13

Sealed by God eph 1:13 sealed by God (ez 36:25-27) in the ark of salvation by baptism just as Noah was sealed by God in the ark of the flood gen 7:16

1 Pet 3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us!
(Ark of Noah a type of the church, member of Christ and his church and salvation by baptism!)
(Outside the ark of Noah none were saved, outside the church (the ark of salvation) none are saved!)

Sealed in the ark, sealed in the church the ark of salvation by God thru baptism!


Christ instituted the holy church to teach and sanctify all men unto eternal salvation. (repent and believe the gospel) with the institution of the sacraments to convey grace to sanctify souls!
Matt 28:19

Effects of faith & baptism!

Ez 36:25-27 washed in baptism, with a new heart and the Spirit
Jn 3:5 born again in baptism
Mk 16:16 faith & baptist
Acts 2:38 repentance & baptism
Acts 8:36-38 faith & baptism
Acts 22:16 baptism washes away sin
Rom 6:3 died with Christ
Col 2:12 risen with Christ
1 cor 12:13 baptized into the church
Gal 3:27 by baptism put on Christ
2 Tim 1:10 eph 2:1 and 5 brought to life
2 cor 5:17 new creation
Eph 1:13 eph 4:30 sealed by the Holy Spirit
Eph 4:5 one faith, one baptism
Eph 5:26 faith and baptism
Titus 3:5 baptismal regeneration
1 pet 1:2 washed in Christ’s blood
1 pet 2:9 the kingdom of light
1 pet 3:20-21 baptism saves us!

“Faith alone” accomplishes nothing!
1 cor 13:2 even all faith (alone) without charity avails NOTHING!!!

Faith and baptism!

Scripture says none of the things about “Faith alone”!

Only James 2:24 a man is justified by works and not by “faith alone”

2 Peter 1:11
For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

The Christian sacrament of baptism is the Initiation into the new covenant and must be ministered to you by the apostles!

Thanks, Hope this helps