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Bible Study CALLING ALL BIBLE STUDY ENTHUSIASTS! Come and join us for an indepth study of the Book of Deut.

Chapter 17
Deu 17:1 Thou shalt not sacrifice unto the LORD thy God any bullock, or sheep, wherein is blemish, or any evilfavouredness: for that is an abomination unto the LORD thy God.

1Pe 1:18 Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;
1Pe 1:19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:
1Pe 1:20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,
 
Chapter 17
Deu 17:1 Thou shalt not sacrifice unto the LORD thy God any bullock, or sheep, wherein is blemish, or any evilfavouredness: for that is an abomination unto the LORD thy God.

1Pe 1:18 Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;
1Pe 1:19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:
1Pe 1:20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,
It's interesting to see how even under the law God's people were still at his mercy to provide an adequate sacrifice.
 
6 On the evidence of two witnesses or three witnesses, he who is to die shall be put to death; he shall not be put to death on the evidence of one witness.7 The hand of the witnesses shall be first against him to put him to death..." (Deuteronomy 17:6-7 NASB)

Through this command, I think God was trying to impress on us the necessity of mercy more than the necessity for justice regarding those who sin.

It would be pretty hard to not think about how guilty you yourself are when stepping forward to be the first to kill a person that God says should be put to death.

"2 For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you." (Matthew 7:2 NASB)
 
yet the church says grace wasn't around then.
It's definitely there, just in veiled form. The church, in general, can not see it.

The cities of refuge, and returning the cloak used as surety of a loan back to the borrower so they can stay warm at night, being examples.
 
In Deuteronomy 18, we find that the Lord has issued a new command that we should hear. The Lord calls to remembrance the day of the gathering before Mt Horeb, when he had promised to write his laws into their hearts, that the Lord would be their God, and that they would be to him as a kingdom of priests, a holy nation. But the people feared the fire, and did not come up to the mountain as they were instructed, but instead turned their ear from the Lord, and chose to listen to Moses instead. So here in Deuteronomy, we find the promise of Christ, and a new commandment from the Lord.

Deuteronomy 18:15-19 The Lord thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken; According to all that thou desiredst of the Lord thy God in Horeb in the day of the assembly, saying, Let me not hear again the voice of the Lord my God, neither let me see this great fire any more, that I die not. And the Lord said unto me, They have well spoken that which they have spoken. I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.

No matter the ordinances and the laws you asked to obey before Moses because you would not hear my voice in the day of the assembly, these I will not require it of you. But I will raise up onto you a Prophet, and if you do not hearken unto the words that he shall speak in my name, this I shall require it of you.

Matthew 5:38-48 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also. And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain. Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.
Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

Do you hear the words of the Lord? Or are you still trying to please the law and waiting on Moses to tell you that which you should do?

Acts 3:19-23 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord; And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began. For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you. And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people.
 
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It's definitely there, just in veiled form. The church, in general, can not see it.

The cities of refuge, and returning the cloak used as surety of a loan back to the borrower so they can stay warm at night, being examples.
theres more.

the first mention of "grace" is in the torah. but noah found grace in the eyes of the lord
 
Deu 18:18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.
Joh 1:45 Philip findeth Nathanael, and saith unto him, We have found him, of whom Moses in the law, and the prophets, did write, Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph.

Deu 18:21 And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken?
1Jn 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
1Jn 4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
1Jn 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
1Jn 4:4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
 
Chapters 17, 18, & 19 I'll just give some quick responses that I noticed. in Chap. 17 A really great directive was not to accept an accusation of a crime with just one person. It had to be with two or three witnesses.

God sets the standard for capital punishment. Reason? Deut. 17:12b, 13 "You shall purge the evil from Israel. And all the people shall hear and fear and not act presumptuously again" (ESV). Our laws have been so watered down, and the legal system so perverted, that this is no longer followed, so our jails are full of murderers who live off the people they wronged.

God set up the provision of a King, if they wanted one....they should have stayed with God as their King. IMO, this was an early major error for the Nation of Israel.


Chapter 18 Here we have the proper care of the Levites. Some N.T. Churches have adopted some of these instructions and or, similar treatment.

There were to be no fortune tellers, mediums, or the like. Some people today think their are fake, some are, but some are real, and motivated by Satan himself.

There are dire punishments for prophets whose predictions don't come true. I take this very serious when I claim that what I feel that the Lord has said, better be what the Lord said. So far I'm ok.


Chapter 19 Cities of refuge were set up in geographical locations for those who were involved in the shedding of the blood of another. The innocent could go there for a fair trial. The guilty would be found out and turned over to the family of the violated for justice.

V.13 Again, records the benefit of capital punishment....eye for eye etc. certainly discourages crime against another.
 
dont even think about a vacation again... :)

OK, I had to drive about 1,000 miles in three days. :angry3Plus I was using Debi's Sons truck. My GMC Suburban gets lousy gas mileage, so so we opted to take his truck which gets about 9 miles to a gallon better. Now I wish we had taken my GMC because the seats are much more comfortable. My back was screaming most of the time.

I guess I'll have to ask your permission to leave more than a day. I did have a great time with my kids, so that made up for the lousy weather and the miles.

I missed you the most.:sad
 
Chapters 17, 18, & 19 I'll just give some quick responses that I noticed. in Chap. 17 A really great directive was not to accept an accusation of a crime with just one person. It had to be with two or three witnesses.

God sets the standard for capital punishment. Reason? Deut. 17:12b, 13 "You shall purge the evil from Israel. And all the people shall hear and fear and not act presumptuously again" (ESV). Our laws have been so watered down, and the legal system so perverted, that this is no longer followed, so our jails are full of murderers who live off the people they wronged.

God set up the provision of a King, if they wanted one....they should have stayed with God as their King. IMO, this was an early major error for the Nation of Israel.


Chapter 18 Here we have the proper care of the Levites. Some N.T. Churches have adopted some of these instructions and or, similar treatment.

There were to be no fortune tellers, mediums, or the like. Some people today think their are fake, some are, but some are real, and motivated by Satan himself.

There are dire punishments for prophets whose predictions don't come true. I take this very serious when I claim that what I feel that the Lord has said, better be what the Lord said. So far I'm ok.


Chapter 19 Cities of refuge were set up in geographical locations for those who were involved in the shedding of the blood of another. The innocent could go there for a fair trial. The guilty would be found out and turned over to the family of the violated for justice.

V.13 Again, records the benefit of capital punishment....eye for eye etc. certainly discourages crime against another.

I think that there were also very strict rules as to who the court would accept as a witness to the crime. That a transgressor shall not testify (Ex. 23:1) (CCN75). see link
Our court system does this and juries accept it when we allow criminals to testify against someone, supposed jail house confessions being especially offensive.
Exo 23:1 `Thou dost not lift up a vain report; thou dost not put thy hand with a wicked man to be a violent witness.

Here is another that we do not follow "That the court shall not accept the testimony of a close relative of the defendant in matters of capital punishment (Deut. 24:16) (CCN74)."
We don't make wives testify against their husbands but children, brothers, etc. are forced to do this or face charges themselves. We put these people in a position of condemning their own family member to death or bear false witness. Which the false witness may mean that the victims family receives no justice either.

Another that we do not follow, "To give the decision according to the majority, when there is a difference of opinion among the members of the Sanhedrin as to matters of law (Ex. 23:2) (affirmative)." see link
This was a panel of judges, not uneducated in the laws, emotionally lead peers. Not people that were anxious to get a trial over with so they could return to their regular lives.
These were men who knew the law that God had given them to perform. They were not elected officials making a name for themselves.
I don't know for sure but I see our military courts being much closer to this instruction.
http://www.jewfaq.org/613.htm
 
I'm not sure how Deut 24:16 refers to giving testimony I thought it was about personal accountability.

Deu 24:16 The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.

Sometimes a family member is the only witness to a crime.
 
I'm not sure how Deut 24:16 refers to giving testimony I thought it was about personal accountability.

Deu 24:16 The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.

Sometimes a family member is the only witness to a crime.

My interpretation agrees with your's. It seems to be clear and yet the Jewish site says differently. My comment was in reference to their interpretation.
So when we get to Chapter 24 in this study maybe we can take a closer look at it. It is mentioned in two other places in context 2Kings 14:5-6 and 2 Chronicles 25:4, that I am aware of.
 
Chapter 20 An interesting account of war against the inhabitants of within the boundaries of the Promised Land and the outer fringes. The Promised Land belonged to God. Therefore He would have the Army of Israel invade and dispossess the land, and and people with the sword.

There were mercy conditions for three classes of men who could be excused from war to see to personal needs, lest they die in battle and someone else take his place. The most important of these was a man who was betrothed and soon to marry.

Yahweh would be their Commander in Chief and He would promise victory no matter the odds.

I have found in my research and thinking, Yahweh absolutely refuses His people to worship anything or anyone other than Him. In Chapter 7:4 God directed the Army to completely destroy all the nations in the boundaries of the Promised Land because "they would turn away your sons from following Me."

The other reason is 7:10 "repay to their face those who hate Him, by destroying them."

Once Israel had conquered all the nations of the Promised Land, their neighbors would be given a choice if they were aggressive toward Israel. The men were put to the sword while the women and children were saved along with the livestock.
 
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