CAN God do the the logically impossible? Why / why not?

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If God claimed that He could do the logically impossible, He would not be lying? or would He? But He is COMPLETELY UNABLE to lie according to your belief.

Not according to my belief, according to Scripture:

Heb 6:17 So when God desired to show more convincingly to the heirs of the promise the unchangeable character of his purpose, he guaranteed it with an oath,
Heb 6:18 so that by two unchangeable things, in which it is impossible for God to lie, we who have fled for refuge might have strong encouragement to hold fast to the hope set before us.
Heb 6:19 We have this as a sure and steadfast anchor of the soul, a hope that enters into the inner place behind the curtain,
Heb 6:20 where Jesus has gone as a forerunner on our behalf, having become a high priest forever after the order of Melchizedek. (ESV)

Impossible means not possible. We have a sure hope in God's promise, as Abraham did, because God cannot lie. If God could go against his nature and lie, we would have no hope.

So if God says that He can, the belief ""He cannot do the logically impossible "" crumbles to pieces.

Does God say somewhere in Scripture that he can lie? That would be in direct contradiction to the above verse, in which case, if it isn't just a copyist error, he becomes untrustworthy, because we could never know whether or not he was lying. We essentially couldn't know anything about him or if he even existed, in which case we should just throw out our Bibles.

Besides, the arguments for God being able to do the "logically impossible" RELY on logic in the first place!

Well, no, that would be a misuse of logic; those arguments are based on the illogical, as has been shown many times.

So technically everything is logically possible for God?

No, only the logically possible is possible for God. Those things that are logically impossible are nonsense, so why should we want to believe that God can do nonsense? How could we believe a God that could lie?

 

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How could we believe a God that could lie?

Same reason we can believe Bible-following Christians. Record. Trustworthy.
They ****can**** lie, but we trust them.

illogical

The various arguments for Him doing the logically impossible seemed quite thought-provoking, and you havent seen those kind before, yes?

If God could go against his nature and lie, we would have no hope.

Slippery slope. It could be argued the fact we do have hope could refute that

 

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Same reason we can believe Bible-following Christians. Record. Trustworthy.
They ****can**** lie, but we trust them.

Really? So we just completely ignore the Bible which unequivocally states that it is "impossible for God to lie"? Even more it tells us that men do lie.

The various arguments for Him doing the logically impossible seemed quite thought-provoking, and you havent seen those kind before, yes?

Of course I have, I even stated that atheists use them to try and debunk God, but they don't because they're nonsense.

Slippery slope. It could be argued the fact we do have hope could refute that

No, it is neither a slippery slope nor would an argument to hope refute it.

 

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Of course I have, I even stated that atheists use them to try and debunk God, but they don't because they're nonsense.

I'm talking about the fairly unique ones I used in this thread, not the typical ones used on the first page of googlesearch results.

impossible for God to lie

This can be interpreted as that He can't - its 'impossible' - because He won't. See my doorknob and hand/arm analogy a while back.

Did Jesus "empty Himself"? Philippians 2:7
God only 'struggled' to lift the Cross when He was still on earth.
He could easily use His power and lift it with ease. But He CHOSE not to, on that occasion, right?

 

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I'm talking about the fairly unique ones I used in this thread

And, what were those?

This can be interpreted as that He can't - its 'impossible' - because He won't. See my doorknob and hand/arm analogy a while back.

No, "impossible" cannot be interpreted as "because He won't." You can't just go making things up as it suits your position. "Impossible" means that it is not possible. The word used is adunatos and means:

Thayer Definition:
1) without strength, impotent, powerless, weakly, disabled
2) unable to be done, impossible
Part of Speech: adjective

A Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: from G1 (as a negative particle) and G1415

And, G1415, dunatos, means:

Thayer Definition:
1) able, powerful, mighty, strong
1a) mighty in wealth and influence
1b) strong in soul
1b1) to bear calamities and trials with fortitude and patience
1b2) strong in Christian virtue
2) to be able (to do something)
2a) mighty, excelling in something
2b) having power for something

Did Jesus "empty Himself"? Philippians 2:7
God only 'struggled' to lift the Cross when He was still on earth.
He could easily use His power and lift it with ease. But He CHOSE not to, on that occasion, right?

I'm not sure what you think you're going to prove with these questions, other than the likelihood they're false analogies.

 

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Do you understand the nature of God, because I certainly don’t .,I only know of his Love because he first loved me in my heart/ Spirit, when the Spirit birthed my spirit,

The nature of God is creation, He's first and foremost the Creator of the universe, he's omnipotent and omniscience because He's beyond time and space.