[_ Old Earth _] Continental split? Peleg's english name?

[Grengor]

I've never seen dad give any evidence for his entire "split" and "merge" theories, just something about a plant growing fast so of course it means that everything grew fast "back then".

But hey, let's see him turn the entire scientific community upside down with his "outside the box" theories, I'd support him just to see it happen.

 

[Khristeeanos]

Re: kent

You need to check out the Kent Hovind seminar series. It sort of goes over this a bit.

You need to find out the truth about Kent Hovind.
http://home.austarnet.com.au/stear/kent ... llenge.htm

So because you disagree with his beliefs in science we have to throw out the baby with the bathwater?

He has a formal education and is very intelligent when it comes to the Bible.

 

[Grengor]

The Bible, yes he holds weight. In science he holds as much weight as a hole does water.

 

[Wertbag]

Right, in a time that spirits married our women, and had children, and trees grew in days!

Spirits married our women? "Do you take Casper to be your lawfully wedded ghost?" There is certainly the story of Mary's miraculous pregnancy, but there doesn't seem to be many stories such as this to make the theory that such things were common.

The conditions of a physical only universe, and world. It was also spiritual then, which is why it was so different!

Genesis does not mention creation of any spiritual side, the people of those days do not record this extra dimension. I don't believe this is a normal christian or biblical claim, please let us know where this theory comes from.

What are we talking here exactly? Moving animals? Only time that happened was in the ark. Add some hibernation, and plants that grew in days, and they ate like kings.

The problems Noah would have had are numerous, apart from just collecting the thousands of animals, he had to collect food (including thousands of tons of meat), keep the food and water fresh for a year at sea, ventilation, waste management, temperature regulation etc.
Modern technology can overcome some of the problems, but its an impossibility for someone of that age to do so.
Hibernation is not mentioned in the bible, we know the majority of animals do not hibernate (their bodies are not designed for it), and so you would need to start adding more miracles to cause this.

 

[Grengor]

Which he does. On a regular basis. Not only is it not science, it's bad theology.

 

[dad]

...I can say with 100% certainty that there is no support for your crazy hyperevolution miracle story. The burden is on you, please provide the verse references if they exist.

Actually, you are whistling in the dark here. Remember we are talking about a different past, not the physical only present! There we have documentation of the highest calibre that trees grew in days. Plants were made only days before men and beast. Yet we ate the fruits of trees, and plants. God told the serpent in the garden it would go down on it's belly, somehow it used to be in a different form. This happened right away, not over long ages. Later, we see Noah release a bird -no life found. A week or whatever it was later, again, a bird released, bringing back evidence of a grown tree! AS I told you very different. Now we could look in the future, in heaven, and see some big changes as well, like trees that have fruit each month, all year long.

 

[dad]

...Spirits married our women? "Do you take Casper to be your lawfully wedded ghost?" There is certainly the story of Mary's miraculous pregnancy, but there doesn't seem to be many stories such as this to make the theory that such things were common.

Of course there is. But back in the time before the seperation of the spiritual, from the physical! AS a matter of wonderful 'coincidence', the verse that will show us comes right before the verse where God, in His own words directly tells us that man has only 120 years left, then something BIG was going to happen! (The seperation of the spiritual from the physical, I believe, which was much bigger than the flood)

Gen 6:1-2 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, 2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

Genesis does not mention creation of any spiritual side,

The creation was of the complete universe, which was later split, leaving us in a physical only one temporarily! What we see now is not the one that is eternal, as we see, the bible says this one will pass away.

the people of those days do not record this extra dimension. I don't believe this is a normal christian or biblical claim, please let us know where this theory comes from.

Which people? In the record of the bible it does! Even if we look at history, we see a belief in some form of spiritual or another. Even today, the majority of all people everywhere on earth know this.

The problems Noah would have had are numerous, apart from just collecting the thousands of animals,

Effortless, almost, God told em to come.

he had to collect food (including thousands of tons of meat),

No! With hyper evolution, most creatures would have been still plant eaters! Piece of cake.

keep the food and water fresh for a year at sea,

Elementary plumbing sytem, water collection from outside, and possibly a lot of hibernation going on some of the time.

ventilation, waste management,

Pull the flush handle once in a while.

temperature regulation etc.

God told him how exactly to build it, who are you calling dumb here?

Hibernation is not mentioned in the bible, we know the majority of animals do not hibernate (their bodies are not designed for it),

Of course they don't now, they don't need to, any more than they need to hyper adapt now. Point is, the still spiritual as well as physical world worked so differently the present is no measure whatsoever of how things worked.

 

[reznwerks]

Re: kent

You need to check out the Kent Hovind seminar series. It sort of goes over this a bit.

You need to find out the truth about Kent Hovind.
http://home.austarnet.com.au/stear/kent ... llenge.htm

So because you disagree with his beliefs in science we have to throw out the baby with the bathwater?

He has a formal education and is very intelligent when it comes to the Bible.

It doesn't matter if I believe him or I don't. He has been proved wrong and unreliable.

 

[reznwerks]

...I can say with 100% certainty that there is no support for your crazy hyperevolution miracle story. The burden is on you, please provide the verse references if they exist.

Actually, you are whistling in the dark here. Remember we are talking about a different past, not the physical only present! There we have documentation of the highest calibre that trees grew in days.
Documentation? I will be waiting for the evidence.

Plants were made only days before men and beast. Yet we ate the fruits of trees, and plants. God told the serpent in the garden it would go down on it's belly, somehow it used to be in a different form. This happened right away, not over long ages. Later, we see Noah release a bird -no life found. A week or whatever it was later, again, a bird released, bringing back evidence of a grown tree! AS I told you very different. Now we could look in the future, in heaven, and see some big changes as well, like trees that have fruit each month, all year long.
I know what it says but do you have evidence for the claim. Do you have any physical evidence to suggest that the laws of nature did not work like they do now?Without the bible do you have any reason to believe that the laws of nature did not work as they do now?If you believe that the laws of nature did not work then as they do now can you explain why there is no evidence to confirm this?

 

[reznwerks]

et's

...Spirits married our women? "Do you take Casper to be your lawfully wedded ghost?" There is certainly the story of Mary's miraculous pregnancy, but there doesn't seem to be many stories such as this to make the theory that such things were common.

Of course there is. But back in the time before the seperation of the spiritual, from the physical! AS a matter of wonderful 'coincidence', the verse that will show us comes right before the verse where God, in His own words directly tells us that man has only 120 years left, then something BIG was going to happen! (The seperation of the spiritual from the physical, I believe, which was much bigger than the flood)

Gen 6:1-2 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, 2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
If this doesn't suggest ALIENS in our midst I don't know what does. Clearly the sons of God are mingling around humans and are discussed as being separate of the men.

Genesis does not mention creation of any spiritual side,

The creation was of the complete universe, which was later split, leaving us in a physical only one temporarily! What we see now is not the one that is eternal, as we see, the bible says this one will pass away.
Well then where is it? If our physical form is not important then why is it so important for God to come back and rapture and save the planet from sure and total destruction? Why would God have created heaven in the first place when he said at his conclusion of making the univers IT was very good?

[quote:44acd]the people of those days do not record this extra dimension.


I don't believe this is a normal christian or biblical claim, please let us know where this theory comes from.

Which people? In the record of the bible it does! Even if we look at history, we see a belief in some form of spiritual or another. Even today, the majority of all people everywhere on earth know this.
Are you admitting the possibility that other Gods are just as valid then? Or are you only open to admitting that YOUR God is the only real possiblity and all others are bogus. After all how could all those ancient Gods be bogus when they were so much closer to the beginning of creation?

The problems Noah would have had are numerous, apart from just collecting the thousands of animals,

Effortless, almost, God told em to come.
Just like that? How do you explain that when we use the dimensions of the bible the ark is about the size of a football field and a half. Just like that, just because there is no way to physically fit two or seven of each animal(depending on what chapter you read) in the ark just because God says it then it must be so. Lets not even consider the special food that these animals eat, (Koala, Eucalyptas leaves) let alone the amount of animal waste generated after one year. No, I'll just let you think like God and then tell us all how you would do it if you were God.

he had to collect food (including thousands of tons of meat),

No! With hyper evolution, most creatures would have been still plant eaters! Piece of cake.
Where was all this "plant food " coming from for a year?

keep the food and water fresh for a year at sea,

Elementary plumbing sytem, water collection from outside, and possibly a lot of hibernation going on some of the time.
Hibernation does not mean suspended animation. Bears still get up to eat .

ventilation, waste management,

Pull the flush handle once in a while.

temperature regulation etc.

God told him how exactly to build it, who are you calling dumb here?
If God did the specs he could have used steel and probably borrowed some Microsoft software . After all if God could do all this he could have done it right and made it modern couldn't he? Who would know as no one but Noah and his family were supposed to survive? That didn't work either but that is another story.

Hibernation is not mentioned in the bible, we know the majority of animals do not hibernate (their bodies are not designed for it),

Of course they don't now, they don't need to, any more than they need to hyper adapt now. Point is, the still spiritual as well as physical world worked so differently the present is no measure whatsoever of how things worked.
It's amazing what a pen and an imagination is capable of doing.[/quote:44acd]

 

[dad]

Actually, you are whistling in the dark here. Remember we are talking about a different past, not the physical only present! There we have documentation of the highest calibre that trees grew in days.
Documentation? I will be waiting for the evidence.

The best kept document in the world, no less, the bible! Just look at what was created when, and see how plants came before men by some days!

I know what it says but do you have evidence for the claim. Do you have any physical evidence to suggest that the laws of nature did not work like they do now?

Do you have any that suggest it did?!!!!!! No, you do not. We are free to believe your opinion, then, or the holy bible on that issue, since it is belief, and not, repeat, not science.

Without the bible do you have any reason to believe that the laws of nature did not work as they do now?

Without or with anything you can think of, do you have any reason to believe that the world was physical only?

If you believe that the laws of nature did not work then as they do now can you explain why there is no evidence to confirm this?

If you believe that the laws of nature did work then as they do now can you explain why there is no evidence to confirm this?

 

[dad]

Re: et's

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4075779.stm[/url]

Like wise, other creatures, like elephants.



"It shows that the mammoth was most closely related to the Asian rather than the African elephant. The three groups split from a common ancestor .."

"The woolly mammoth, Mammuthus primigenius, with its covering of shaggy hair, was adapted to the extremes of the ice ages. "
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4535190.stm

So, not that many need be in the ark, all we need is some hyper adapting afterwards!

Lets not even consider the special food that these animals eat, (Koala, Eucalyptas leaves) let alone the amount of animal waste generated after one year. No, I'll just let you think like God and then tell us all how you would do it if you were God.

Who cares what food they eat NOW? You miss the point. Do you know how much waste a bear generates hibernating? Besides, what kind of animal ark do you think God designed, that had no waste disposal? In a world of water, and moisture, must've been a loot of rain a lot of the time as well, fresh, and piped in the ark collection system.

Where was all this "plant food " coming from for a year?
[quote:27cf1]keep the food and water fresh for a year at sea,

[/quote:27cf1]
Hey, If I could grow grass in hours, perhaps, or berries, how hard could it be?

Hibernation does not mean suspended animation. Bears still get up to eat .

Really? You better correct sites like this!
"Grizzly bears and black bears generally do not eat, drink, defecate, or urinate during hibernation. Bears live off of a layer of fat built up during the summer and fall months prior to hibernation. Waste products are produced, however, instead of disposing of their metabolic waste, bears recycle it."
http://www.nps.gov/yell/nature/animals/ ... nfo10.html

If God did the specs he could have used steel and probably borrowed some Microsoft software

.

I think gopher wood may have been a process of metalmaking!
http://discussions.godandscience.org/about1482.html

It's amazing what a pen and an imagination is capable of doing.

Yes, I can hardly believe they came up with an imaginary lifeform appearing to produce all life on earth, or how they claim the whole universe was in a teensy speck! Amazing!

 

[reznwerks]

Re: et's

[be?

Hibernation does not mean suspended animation. Bears still get up to eat .

Really? You better correct sites like this!
"Grizzly bears and black bears generally do not eat, drink, defecate, or urinate during hibernation. Bears live off of a layer of fat built up during the summer and fall months prior to hibernation. Waste products are produced, however, instead of disposing of their metabolic waste, bears recycle it."
http://www.nps.gov/yell/nature/animals/ ... nfo10.html
You want to correct me about the realities of hibernation yet you want to throw every other law of nature out the window to suit your beliefs. Why don't you acknowledge then that the climate would not lend itself to hibernation in and around the flood area? ITS WARM!


[quote:0ab5a] If God did the specs he could have used steel and probably borrowed some Microsoft software

.

I think gopher wood may have been a process of metalmaking!
http://discussions.godandscience.org/about1482.html
I meant steel decking and plate. God could have told Noah how to make steel pipe and the workings of a modern sewage system. Just think what God could have done with a Brittanica or even a subscription to Popular Mechanics.

It's amazing what a pen and an imagination is capable of doing.

Yes, I can hardly believe they came up with an imaginary lifeform appearing to produce all life on earth, or how they claim the whole universe was in a teensy speck! Amazing!

It might have been a whole lot of teensy specs. Life may have originated outside our planet and been brought here by comets and asteroids. Read my latest post.

[/quote:0ab5a]

 

[Oran_Taran]

about the elephants and tigers- of course they came from common ancestors, they evolved. However...

"Analysis of the tigers' mitochondrial DNA revealed that all tigers diverged from a common ancestor .."

Mitochondrial DNA was found to be unreliable.
Same thing applies to all animals: http://www.apologeticspress.org/articles/2332
As for bears, technically they do not hibernate.

One animal that some consider to be a hibernator but is not a true hibernator is the bear. While its heart rate is slow, the bear's body temperature remains relatively stable and it can be easily aroused. Other non-hibernators that are commonly assumed to be hibernators include badgers, raccoons, and opposums.

wikipedida, hibernation

Many bears of northern regions are assumed to hibernate in the winter. In fact, they don't hibernate. Their body temperature sinks a moderate amount and they can be easily awakened.

wikipedia, bear.

Yes, I can hardly believe they came up with an imaginary lifeform appearing to produce all life on earth, or how they claim the whole universe was in a teensy speck! Amazing!

It's not reality's job to satisfy our egos. We have evidence. That's what the evidence points to. It's as simple as that.

as for the rest of your post I may reply later, but right now i'm beat. [/b]

 

[reznwerks]

Re: et's

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4075779.stm[/url]

Like wise, other creatures, like elephants.



"It shows that the mammoth was most closely related to the Asian rather than the African elephant. The three groups split from a common ancestor .."

"The woolly mammoth, Mammuthus primigenius, with its covering of shaggy hair, was adapted to the extremes of the ice ages. "
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4535190.stm
Were you trying to sabatoge the ID crowd?

So, not that many need be in the ark, all we need is some hyper adapting afterwards!
As I said , a pen and an imagination and anything is possible.

Lets not even consider the special food that these animals eat, (Koala, Eucalyptas leaves) let alone the amount of animal waste generated after one year. No, I'll just let you think like God and then tell us all how you would do it if you were God.

Who cares what food they eat NOW? You miss the point. Do you know how much waste a bear generates hibernating? Besides, what kind of animal ark do you think God designed, that had no waste disposal? In a world of water, and moisture, must've been a loot of rain a lot of the time as well, fresh, and piped in the ark collection system.
Who cares? I think anyone with a brain should care. You want people to believe EVERY known law relating to nature and science has been thrown out without any evidence other than one book written by unknown people without a shred of evidence to back it up and whatever evidence there is contradicts the imagined claims. How can that be. What purpose could God have to leave evidence that contradicts what actually happened? Do you realize that God would purposely have had to alter the evidence ofwhat happened ? What possible reason could he have had to do so and then you claim that the writers were "inspired" to write the truth of what happened yet God distorted the hard evidence to contradict the writers. Yea right!

Where was all this "plant food " coming from for a year?
[quote:53105]keep the food and water fresh for a year at sea,

[/quote:53105]
Hey, If I could grow grass in hours, perhaps, or berries, how hard could it be?
Thats a big IF , If you have no evidence. All I have to do is say superman did it and without superman God could do nothing. All I have to do is claim it and presto it is fact.

Hibernation does not mean suspended animation. Bears still get up to eat .

Really? You better correct sites like this!
"Grizzly bears and black bears generally do not eat, drink, defecate, or urinate during hibernation. Bears live off of a layer of fat built up during the summer and fall months prior to hibernation. Waste products are produced, however, instead of disposing of their metabolic waste, bears recycle it."
http://www.nps.gov/yell/nature/animals/ ... nfo10.html
You want to correct me on the true nature of hibernation yet you want me to throw out ALL the other known laws of nature so you can believe in your beliefs . LOL If you were true to your beliefs then you would know that hibernation would not occur in this warm climate. The bears would be active all year creating a real problem for food and waste.

If God did the specs he could have used steel and probably borrowed some Microsoft software

.

I think gopher wood may have been a process of metalmaking!
http://discussions.godandscience.org/about1482.html
I was referring to a modern ship with steel decking and plate. Perhaps some real sewage systems might have helped too. Why did God wait for the Romans to solve the problem?

It's amazing what a pen and an imagination is capable of doing.

Yes, I can hardly believe they came up with an imaginary lifeform appearing to produce all life on earth, or how they claim the whole universe was in a teensy speck! Amazing!

[/quote:53105]

 

[dad]

Re: et's

Really? You better correct sites like this!
"Grizzly bears and black bears generally do not eat, drink, defecate, or urinate during hibernation. Bears live off of a layer of fat built up during the summer and fall months prior to hibernation. Waste products are produced, however, instead of disposing of their metabolic waste, bears recycle it."
http://www.nps.gov/yell/nature/animals/ ... nfo10.html
You want to correct me about the realities of hibernation yet you want to throw every other law of nature out the window to suit your beliefs. Why don't you acknowledge then that the climate would not lend itself to hibernation in and around the flood area? ITS WARM!

Bears do not hibernate because it is cold, but because there is not enough food. You really know your stuff here.

I meant steel decking and plate. God could have told Noah how to make steel pipe and the workings of a modern sewage system.

It is part of the documented evidence that men were proficient in iron making at the time.

It might have been a whole lot of teensy specs. Life may have originated outside our planet and been brought here by comets and asteroids. Read my latest post.

Well, the speck I refered to was the whole universe they say was in one, not biological life on earth. To fantasize there were more is as useless an exercise as imagining our universe in one!

 

[dad]

about the elephants and tigers- of course they came from common ancestors, they evolved. However...

No, that is your opinion, without basis. The best you could do is show what is consisdered evolution occuring now, and assume no creation, and long ages. I assume evolution as well, after things were created, and in the last several thousand years.

[quote:51dac]Mitochondrial DNA was found to be unreliable.
Same thing applies to all animals: http://www.apologeticspress.org/articles/2332

My sources were recent, even in the news weeks ago! Look at some of the dates on your article. 1897 1988, 2000, and 1981! You gotta be kidding?

As for bears, technically they do not hibernate.

It is what we commonly call it, and the kind of thing I meant, though.

"Yes, I can hardly believe they came up with an imaginary lifeform appearing to produce all life on earth, or how they claim the whole universe was in a teensy speck! Amazing!"
It's not reality's job to satisfy our egos. We have evidence. That's what the evidence points to. It's as simple as that.

No, no evidence at all! Only assumption. The fossil record is a record of migrating life from eden where most things were made. It simply has been misread.

as for the rest of your post I may reply later, but right now i'm beat.

[/quote:51dac] In more ways than you realize yet.

 

[dad]

Re: et's

They weren't spiritual beings if they were able to physically mingle among them. Even you cannot deny the wording that they were identified as being separate. If they weren't considered men and were able to dwell among them I will call them aliens.

Seperate? Having babies with women, and getting married to them is seperate? No. Now we are seperate, not then.

I'm not beating myself up on it. I think the physical is all there is so it is very important.

Your minority opinion, you could never scientifically validate, is noted!

No I don't see. You say but that is about it. Can you show evidence of it?

Ac 3:21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.
So, when the new eternal heavens are revealed, things are restored to the original created perfection.

Well your bible has a completely different take on the subject. I guess you have adopted the Burger King approach to theology.

No, since it's "my" bible, as you say, I oughta know!

They found out for example that all tigers and elephants came from one original ancestor.
VICTORY! One more Christian admits to evolution!

Yes, victory for the creator, who created things with the ability to adapt, or evolve somewhat. This, I don't think too many YEers really are bothered by, it's your imaginary old ages, and creation denial.

For YECs, would we not have to admit some hyper evolution? All species of tigers came from one original kind of tiger, it seems.
Thank you!

You're welcome. Not so many were needed in the ark, now were there?

"Analysis of the tigers' mitochondrial DNA revealed that all tigers diverged from a common ancestor .."
Thats wonderful!

Yes, it is. Just think, in a pre split world how fast this happened!

"The woolly mammoth, Mammuthus primigenius, with its covering of shaggy hair, was adapted to the extremes of the ice ages. "
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4535190.stm
Were you trying to sabatoge the ID crowd?

No.

Who cares? I think anyone with a brain should care. You want people to believe EVERY known law relating to nature and science has been thrown out without any evidence other than one book written by unknown people without a shred of evidence to back it up and whatever evidence there is contradicts the imagined claims. How can that be.

They can't be thrown out of where they never were, just like in the new heavens, where they will never be either. The PO is temporary, regardless of what you believe!

What purpose could God have to leave evidence that contradicts what actually happened? Do you realize that God would purposely have had to alter the evidence ofwhat happened ?

No, you just lack understanding. Name any example, and I'll try to point out your error.

Thats a big IF , If you have no evidence.

No, YOU have no evidence, we have documentary evidence!

All I have to do is say superman did it and without superman God could do nothing. All I have to do is claim it and presto it is fact.

Not if someone knows the evidence, and has a brain!

 

[reznwerks]

Actually, you are whistling in the dark here. Remember we are talking about a different past, not the physical only present! There we have documentation of the highest calibre that trees grew in days.
Documentation? I will be waiting for the evidence.

The best kept document in the world, no less, the bible! Just look at what was created when, and see how plants came before men by some days!
Unfortunately the bible is not looked upon as a textbook as many of it's claims cannot be verified and some have already been proved erroneous.

[quote:e0305]I know what it says but do you have evidence for the claim. Do you have any physical evidence to suggest that the laws of nature did not work like they do now?

Do you have any that suggest it did?!!!!!! No, you do not.
Ah , Yes we do. The evidence that is left in the form of fossils, geologic strata , testing of materials in regards to natural wear, etc etc etc. We have many tests and the funny thing about them is that they confirm the results of the other tests.

We are free to believe your opinion, then, or the holy bible on that issue, since it is belief, and not, repeat, not science.

Sorry but it is science. Science observes the real and your side observes or should I say believes without evidence.

Without the bible do you have any reason to believe that the laws of nature did not work as they do now?

Without or with anything you can think of, do you have any reason to believe that the world was physical only?

I guess you are in that trap of trying to prove a negative. If I have nothing to suggest a spirit world or the existance of a non physical world then WHY would I think one exists? I guess in your world if something cannot be proved it didn't exist then it must exist. In that case Santa exists because you can't prove he doesn't. You can't prove Santa doesn't exist because you haven't been to every nook and cranny in the universe.

If you believe that the laws of nature did not work then as they do now can you explain why there is no evidence to confirm this?

If you believe that the laws of nature did work then as they do now can you explain why there is no evidence to confirm this?
As I said all the evidence points to the natural laws of nature being adhered to and nothing to suggest otherwise.The bible makes all kinds of claims that are nowhere supported by what is found.

[/quote:e0305]

 

[Oran_Taran]

No, that is your opinion, without basis.

It is my opinion, but there are MOUNTAINS of basis.
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/section1.html
What YOU are claiming IS without basis whatsoever.

The best you could do is show what is consisdered evolution occuring now,

One word: fossils.

My sources were recent, even in the news weeks ago! Look at some of the dates on your article. 1897 1988, 2000, and 1981! You gotta be kidding?

did you even READ the article?
The old dates I can see are from the original experiments, or just historical background that has nothing to do with whether the actual content of the article is right nor not.
for example,

"The scientists who performed the original work that led to the creation of Eve (see Cann, et al., 1987)"

until reports began appearing in 1999, documenting that mitochondrial DNA also can be (and often is) passed down generation to generation by the male.

that's when they BEGAN appearing.

On the first day of 1987, a new “discovery†seized the attention of the popular press. The original scientific article that caused all the commotionâ€â€Ã¢â‚¬Å“Mitochondrial DNA and Human Evolutionâ€Ââ€â€

You obviously didn't even read the article.

No, no evidence at all! Only assumption. The fossil record is a record of migrating life from eden where most things were made. It simply has been misread.

I thought you were talking about the big bang? ok, even better.
That's ridiculous. There are MILLIONS of yeas of separation between say, trillobites, and humans. If all life had been created at the same time, they would all be in the same sediment layer. And dont' say that the flood sorted them out according to size of some other crap, because things like prehistoric sponges or insects or whatever are most definately smaller than T-rexes, or modern whales, and yet they're at the bottom. You obviously know nothing about the fossil record. It does NOTHING to support adam, eve, creationism, the flood, or any of that. Heck, it DISPROVES it.