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Copeland Gems

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According to this site Copeland hs said some very strange things:

[SIZE=+1]Kenneth Copeland[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=+1]Kenneth Copeland has taught the following[/SIZE]
  • [SIZE=+0]That we do not have a god in us but that we are a God.[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=+0]“You don’t have a God in you. You are one!â€[/SIZE][SIZE=-1] - The Force of Love audiotape[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=+0]That Adam was God manifest in the flesh.[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=+0]"God's reason for creating Adam was His desire to reproduce Himself. I mean a reproduction of Himself, and in the Garden of Eden He did just that. He was not a little like God. He was not almost like God. He was not subordinate to God even. . . . Adam is as much like God as you could get, just the same as Jesus. . . . Adam, in the Garden of Eden, was God manifested in the flesh."[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]Following the Faith of Abraham I, side 1[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=+0]God is the greatest failure in the Universe[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=+0]"I was shocked when I found out who the biggest failure in the Bible actually is....The biggest one is God....I mean, He lost His top-ranking, most anointed angel; the first man He ever created; the first woman He ever created; the whole earth and all the Fullness therein; a third of the angels, at least--that's a big loss, man. . .[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]Praise-a-Thon program on TBN [April 1988][/SIZE]
    [SIZE=+0]God lives on a mother planet[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=+0]"Heaven has a north and a south and an east and a west. Consequently, it must be a planet."[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]Spirit, Soul and Body I 1985 audiotape #01-0601, side 1[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=+0]"You don't think earth was first, do you? Huh? Well, you don't think that God made man in His image, and then made earth in some other image? There is not anything under this whole sun that's new. Are you hearing what I'm saying? This is all a copy. It's a copy of home. It's a copy of the Mother Planet. Where God lives, He made a little one just like His and put us on it."[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]Following the Faith of Abraham I, 1989 audiotape #01-3001, side 1[/SIZE]
  • [SIZE=+0]The death of Jesus on the Cross did not pay the price for sins[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=+0]"It wasn't the physical death on the cross that paid the price for sin..anybody could do that"[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]What Satan saw on the day of Pentecost[/SIZE] [SIZE=+0]“Every prophet that walked the face of the earth under the Abrahamic covenant could have paid the price if it were a physical death only†“When he said ‘It is finished’ on that cross, he was not speaking of the plan of redemption. The plan of redemption had just begun, there were still three days and three nights to be gone through.†“[Jesus] accepted the sin nature of Satan in His own Spirit, and at the moment that He did so, He cried ‘My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?’.†“He [Jesus] was down in that pit and there he suffered the punishment for three horrible days and nights for Adam’s treason... There is a new birth takes place in the very depths of the earth, when the command of God says ‘That’s enough, loose him and let him go’.â€[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]What Happened from the Cross to the Throne[/SIZE]
  • [SIZE=+0]Jesus was raped by homosexual Roman soldiers everyway possible[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=+0]"Let me tell you something folks. Anybody in here that's ever been sexually abused, listen to me right now. Listen to me very carefully. The bible's very careful about the way it says these things. But down there in that dungeon, Romans, ungodly men, ungodly men, put him (Jesus) to every kind of abuse that you can think of. There is no sin that Jesus didn't bare. There is no thing, there is no such thing as a sexual abuse on somebody that Jesus doesn't know firsthand what it's all about. He's been where you are, I don't care what you've been through, Jesus has been through it. And everything's done to him that we we couldn't even speak of."[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]The Resurrection Truth[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=+0]God and Adam are the same size[/SIZE]
    God spoke Adam into existence in authority with words. These words struck Adam's body in the face. His body and God were exactly the same size."
    [SIZE=-1]Holy Bible, Kenneth Copeland Reference Edition 1991, 45, emphasis in original[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=+0]God has no right to the earth at all, he needs an invitation[/SIZE]
    "God had no avenue of lasting faith or moving in the earth. He had to have covenant with somebody. . . . He had to be invited in, in other words, or He couldn't come. God is on the outside looking in. In order to have any say so in the earth, He's gonna have to be in agreement with a man here."
    [SIZE=-1]God's Covenants With Man II 1985, audiotape #01-4404, side 1[/SIZE] Adam looks the same as Jesus and God
    [SIZE=+0]"[Adam] was the copy, looked just like [God]. If you stood Adam upside God, they look exactly alike. If you stood Jesus and Adam side by side, they would look and sound exactly alike."[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]Authority of the Believer IV 1987, audiotape #01-0304, side 1[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]Other Teachings[/SIZE]
 
Would it be politically incorrect to call Copeland a false teacher?

I mean, is that ok?

Well, I am. Apologies in advance. As far as I'm concerned..its late in the day, theres new Christians coming to Christ as fast as the old Christians are apostasising away.

So theres no point in messing around anymore.

If you see them. Name 'em and shame 'em.

Well done Hitch. Dont let anyone tell you that you are 'judging' or 'gossiping' or any of that nonsense. We are told to BEWARE. That means BE AWARE. If we can help brethren to be aware then LETS DO IT!

Doc.
 
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"Word-Faith teachers owe their ancestry to groups like Christian Science, Swedenborgianism, Theosophy, Science of Mind, and New Thought--not to classical Pentecostalism. It reveals that at their very core, Word-Faith teachings are corrupt. Their undeniable derivation is cultish, not Christian. The sad truth is that the gospel proclaimed by the Word-Faith movement is not the gospel of the New Testament. Word-Faith doctrine is a mongrel system, a blend of mysticism, dualism, and gnosticism that borrows generously from the teachings of the metaphysical cults. The Word-Faith movement may be the most dangerous false system that has grown out of the charismatic movement so far, because so many charismatics are unsure of the finality of Scripture (Charismatic Chaos , p. 290)."
 
It looks like people love to form opinions based on doctored and craftily edited, out-of-context YouTube videos that put forward others' opinions, rather than searching out the truth from taking the time and making the proper effort to hear from a person himself, and see what a vital, fruit-bearing ministry these people really have.

Those who just plaster videos and paste blog excerpts are gossipmongers, and the motive is highly questionable.
 
4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they
are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the
world.
4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth
that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in
the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof
ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the
world.

Copeland:

"Adam in the Garden of Eden was God manifested in the flesh"

4:4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because
greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

Copeland:

“You don’t have a God in you. You are one!â€​
 
Sometimes there can be a fine line between truth and error. It is true that we are not to make personal judgments on other christians, however it is not true that we are to tolerate a false teaching simply because the person doing the false teaching is professing to be christian. I believe it is a sin against God to allow someone to teach or promote something that is clearly false according to the word of God and not openly expose what they are doing. James said that if we encourage anyone in a false teaching that we become a partaker of the sins of that person. I used to support Copeland and I still like him and listen to his music,however after years of listening to him I am convinced that he has seriously missed God in certain areas of his life,that does not mean that everything he says is false or that he is not really a christian,only God knows the man's heart.
 
Sam21 said:
Sometimes there can be a fine line between truth and error. It is true that we are not to make personal judgments on other christians, however it is not true that we are to tolerate a false teaching simply because the person doing the false teaching is professing to be christian. I believe it is a sin against God to allow someone to teach or promote something that is clearly false according to the word of God and not openly expose what they are doing. James said that if we encourage anyone in a false teaching that we become a partaker of the sins of that person. I used to support Copeland and I still like him and listen to his music,however after years of listening to him I am convinced that he has seriously missed God in certain areas of his life,that does not mean that everything he says is false or that he is not really a christian,only God knows the man's heart.
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Good post Sam. Totally agree. Were not judging the heart here just judging the fruit. Not condemning anyone. Which is more than can be said for certain posters in this thread who have told me I'm not Christian for not going to a church building!
 
There is plenty of good fruit resulting from the Copeland ministry. People are getting saved, filled with the Holy Spirit, getting healed and greatly blessed.
 
Alabaster said:
It looks like people love to form opinions based on doctored and craftily edited, out-of-context YouTube videos that put forward others' opinions, rather than searching out the truth from taking the time and making the proper effort to hear from a person himself, and see what a vital, fruit-bearing ministry these people really have.

Those who just plaster videos and paste blog excerpts are gossipmongers, and the motive is highly questionable.
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You are welcome to show cause why any or all of the quotes used are iether out of context, manufactured, or untruthful in any way.:thumbsup
 
Alabaster said:
There is plenty of good fruit resulting from the Copeland ministry. People are getting saved, filled with the Holy Spirit, getting healed and greatly blessed.
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You mean those multiplied millions of muslims?? Kenny promised ? :screwloose
 
A few posts in this thread were deleted. Please... please, keep comments on the belief, not the other person, or this thread will be locked and infractions issued.
 
God lives on a mother planet
"Heaven has a north and a south and an east and a west. Consequently, it must be a planet."
Spirit, Soul and Body I 1985 audiotape #01-0601, side 1

"You don't think earth was first, do you? Huh? Well, you don't think that God made man in His image, and then made earth in some other image? There is not anything under this whole sun that's new. Are you hearing what I'm saying? This is all a copy. It's a copy of home. It's a copy of the Mother Planet. Where God lives, He made a little one just like His and put us on it."
Following the Faith of Abraham I, 1989 audiotape #01-3001, side 1


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"God's on the outside looking in. He doesn't have any legal entree into the earth. The thing don't belong to Him. You see how sassy the Devil was in the presence of God in the book of Job? God said, "Where have you been?" Wasn't any of God's business. He [Satan] didn't even have to answer if he didn't want to ... God didn't argue with him a bit! You see, this is the position that God's been in ... Might say, "Well, if God's running things He's doing a lousy job of it." He hadn't been running 'em, except when He's just got, you know, a little bit of a chance."
-------Kenneth Copeland (Image of God in You III, 1989, audiotape #01-1403,
 
We all make mistakes, we all sin, how we deal with them can make a difference.


Kenneth Copeland is on his third marriage. He was court ordered to pay $15.00 a week for child support to his first wife. During is second marriage one night in jail and the back support was paid. He and Gloria were married about 5 months after his second divorce.

You can buy his book on your marriage for only $19.99.


Godly preachers earn their pay some perachers can never be paid enough some are over paid. These WoF guys are over the top. Living off $$$ from grandmas.



Sorry about the post below being a repete of earlier. Still learning how this place works
 
Strangelove said:
Would it be politically incorrect to call Copeland a false teacher?
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Not on the prophecy pages that will get the thread closed
I mean, is that ok?

Well, I am. Apologies in advance. As far as I'm concerned..its late in the day, theres new Christians coming to Christ as fast as the old Christians are apostasising away.

So theres no point in messing around anymore.

If you see them. Name 'em and shame 'em.

Well done Hitch. Dont let anyone tell you that you are 'judging' or 'gossiping' or any of that nonsense. We are told to BEWARE. That means BE AWARE. If we can help brethren to be aware then LETS DO IT!
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Not a problem if we cant clean our ownhouse we deserve what ever becomes of us
Doc.
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reba said:
"God's on the outside looking in. He doesn't have any legal entree into the earth. The thing don't belong to Him. You see how sassy the Devil was in the presence of God in the book of Job? God said, "Where have you been?" Wasn't any of God's business. He [Satan] didn't even have to answer if he didn't want to ... God didn't argue with him a bit! You see, this is the position that God's been in ... Might say, "Well, if God's running things He's doing a lousy job of it." He hadn't been running 'em, except when He's just got, you know, a little bit of a chance."
-------Kenneth Copeland (Image of God in You III, 1989, audiotape #01-1403,
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Reba you know it will be implied that you doctored that tape,,,
 
I am amazed when folks' egos are to high they will not face truth. The Christians not the world, should do their own house cleaning.


Some folks just refuse to accept they got carried away they will not admit to being wrong and they try and force their out of the Bible beliefs on others.

What the heck does it look like to the unsaved when WE wont clean house?
 
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