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daninthelionsden
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We'll see what's what when one is fighting for a breath.
JohnDB
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Its playing with virus on a DNA/RNA level...wrong medicine (like chemotherapy) can cause the virus to mutate into a worse virus that people can't recover from. (And a new pandemic is started)
That's why careful research done in controlled environments needs to be left up to the people who do this. Not the hoi paloy taking leftover medicine in their medicine cabinets. They have some clues and data to work with...they are good at it...but it takes time to figure out what to do.
18 months is the minimum time frame for a vaccine to go through careful testing. (If effective)
Cures, generally speaking, take longer .
This guy posting on YouTube isn't on the front lines for a reason. He knows something...but likely not enough to get any research dollars...which is why he is trying to drum up support on YouTube.
Epidemiologists work with numbers. They are physicians and biological chemists who excelled in math class and are very comfortable creating calculus formulas.
Working on viruses is a slow and tedious process. But if it was easy then cancer would not exist anymore. But they aren't closing cancer centers down.
Our best hope is God...our next best hope is in a vaccine before we get it.
JohnDB
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Virus can remain viable "in aerosols up to 3 hours, up to 4 hours on copper, up to 24 hours on cardboard and up to 2-3 days on plastic and stainless steel" a Princeton study awaiting peer review has found.
Aerosols....means vapor floating in the air. Meaning someone sneezed in a confined space and you later entered that space (which is empty) and inhaled the virus.
Copper and Cardboard test...meaning money (change and paper) can be a source of viral transmission. So can Amazon deliveries and junk mail.
Plastic....half of the contact surfaces in the world are made from this.
Stainless steel...bathrooms are covered in the stuff.
Meaning that if this stuff is in your neighborhood...the possibility of transmission is high. Wash your hands...antibacterial wipes...meh... it's got a shot of working. But I'm not licking any handrails after wiping them down.
Aerosols....means vapor floating in the air. Meaning someone sneezed in a confined space and you later entered that space (which is empty) and inhaled the virus.
Copper and Cardboard test...meaning money (change and paper) can be a source of viral transmission. So can Amazon deliveries and junk mail.
Plastic....half of the contact surfaces in the world are made from this.
Stainless steel...bathrooms are covered in the stuff.
Meaning that if this stuff is in your neighborhood...the possibility of transmission is high. Wash your hands...antibacterial wipes...meh... it's got a shot of working. But I'm not licking any handrails after wiping them down.
jasonc
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And why. In part vets take their lives .its linked to mental issues.
I took that for a year
daninthelionsden
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Vaccines are notorious for quickly becoming ineffective due to virus mutations. Chloroquine, or the better Hydrochloroquine have a proven track record against malaria. In update 35, it has been shown Hydrochloroquine to have less side effects and at the same time higher efficacy. Zinc deficiency is to be addressed rather than boosting Zinc levels beyond normal. These studies, trials and usage in South Korea/China are showing great potential promise. South Korean COVID-19 numbers reflect the efficacy as is the recent Chinese numbers. This is to be cautiously applauded. There is great hope on the horizon as treatments evolve and fine tune to minimize side effects.
daninthelionsden
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Yes, In long term use, Chloroquine has shown to have less than desirable side effects. In update 35, the South Koreans are showing a close similar med known as Hydroxychloroquine to not only have less side effects than Chloroquine but to have better efficacy against the Coronavirus. There is also hope an OTC supplement Querecetin can accomplish similar results. But studies are in their infancy.
daninthelionsden
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I might add. The dosage of Hydrochloroquine is to be administered by physicians in a hospital setting and seems to only need a few day's usage to be effective. No long term usage.
jasonc
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One year, unless you,actually have it ,I wouldn't suggest taking it.
Malaria is rampant. in Afghanistan
Many in our world are missing Christ in their lives and now live in fear. Yesterday evening, I posted this on my Facebook page.
The world appears to be gripped in fear but it is not necessary. God has everything under control. Hear what He says.
10 "Fear not, for I am with you;
Be not dismayed, for I am your God.
I will strengthen you,
Yes, I will help you,
I will uphold you with My righteous right hand."
Isaiah 41:10 NKJV
"Be strong and of good courage; do not be afraid, nor be dismayed, for the Lord your God is with you wherever you go.”
Joshua 1:9 NKJV
"Lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.”
Matthew 28:20 NKJV
Then, this morning, I followed up with this.
To not live in fear does not mean throw caution to the wind but it does mean we need not live panic-stricken, distraught, stealing, and hoarding.
Christ said….
25 “Therefore I say to you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or what you will drink; nor about your body, what you will put on. Is not life more than food and the body more than clothing?
26 Look at the birds of the air, for they neither sow nor reap nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not of more value than they?
27 Which of you by worrying can add one cubit to his stature?
34 Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about its own things. Sufficient for the day is its own trouble.
Matthew 6:25-27, 34 NKJV
Seek the peace of Christ for in Him there is hope.
6 Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God;
7 and the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.
Philippians 4:6-7 NKJV
But then, didn't this virus get its start in China where bowing is the preferred greeting?
Interesting. Coincidence? Chemist, chair of Department of Harvard Univeristy's Chemistry and Chemical Biology, working with Chinese military personnel at Wuhan University.
www.npr.org
Acclaimed Harvard Scientist Is Arrested, Accused Of Lying About Ties To China
An FBI agent says China's deal with Charles Lieber, the chair of Harvard University's chemistry department, paid him up to $50,000 monthly, along with another $150,000 per year.
www.npr.org
JohnDB
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Harvard is one of the lowest paying Universities for research scientists... claiming that the prestige alone is worth $100,000-200,000/yr. Meaning that usually only foreign nationals are willing to work there for any length of time. The proficient scientists usually find better places with better salaries and benefits to work.Interesting. Coincidence? Chemist, chair of Department of Harvard Univeristy's Chemistry and Chemical Biology, working with Chinese military personnel at Wuhan University.
Acclaimed Harvard Scientist Is Arrested, Accused Of Lying About Ties To China
An FBI agent says China's deal with Charles Lieber, the chair of Harvard University's chemistry department, paid him up to $50,000 monthly, along with another $150,000 per year.
And while working for a university like that does allow you to purchase completed published studies... nothing much of significance has come out of Harvard in a long time because of their payroll.
So...this guy is as guilty as they come.
There's no telling what else he has been doing as well.
I'd say that they need not just one pound of flesh...get two for all the other things he likely has done.
JohnDB
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They have NOT been using or testing this drug yet on Corona. Despite what Daniel is saying.Will see about getting this, if possible.
And thanks for the video...
They are testing other antivirals of another family class of drugs currently. These drugs have a better chance of working (according to friends in this research field) Which is why the guy on YouTube was making a case for this stuff.
In the meantime...duck your head... keep low...wear gloves and dispose of them often.
Look at how long the virus lasts on surfaces like money and countertops...
I'm hearing y'all had another rough day.
Christ_empowered
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no vitamin c to be had :-( . the orthomolecular people say China is/was doing mid-dose IV vitamin C, or at least researching it.
The story has me wondering about the possibility that this new strain of virus was produced in a lab and somehow got loose. If the Chinese military was involved, it opens the door for suspicion of bio-weaponry.
This looks definitely worth raising suspicion. The military games were in Wuhan last October; the first cases were discovered in Wuhan in November.
Based on South Korea's low mortality rate--below 1%, compared to a global 3.4%--I say we begin South Korea's version of chloroquine treatment now. It has already been human-tested, with lives saved already in the hundreds. No need to wait on the US government's blessing, especially when it's possible they caused it.
JohnDB
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Probably close to the truth. Epidemiology in China is a highly competitive field with very little oversight. The military isn't bright enough to be involved in this level of research needed to create this virus.
But an unwatched lone researcher having an accident isn't out of the realm of possibility.