Creation and Earth's Age

[Dorothy Mae]

His timing is not our timing. What we see as days (24 hrs), may be 1000(s) of years to Him. We just don't know.

It’s probably more like what we’re see as a long time is not a long time for his plans. It does not support the idea that when Jesus says “soon” it means 1000s of years but there are promises with no timetable given.

 

[Cooper]

His timing is not our timing. What we see as days (24 hrs), may be 1000(s) of years to Him. We just don't know.

This is why, depending on context, yome means a period of time, anything up to eternity. Most people wrongly say it means 24 hours. It does normally, but when it comes to discussing creation and the end times the conversation revolves around millions of years.
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[JackrabbitSlim]

It’s probably more like what we’re see as a long time is not a long time for his plans. It does not support the idea that when Jesus says “soon” it means 1000s of years but there are promises with no timetable given.

I'm comparing this verse to the creation account.

 

[JackrabbitSlim]

I'm comparing this verse to the creation account.

Also, when you are outside of time, when you can look and see eternity (forward and backward), when you can see what was, what is, what will be, and what what could've been, what is time.

 

[dwb001]

No, you said a lab is like nature. I’ve worked in medical research at it is at at all. Far from it.

You don't appear to have a grasp of the philosophy of what a lab is.

 

[Cooper]

You don't appear to have a grasp of the philosophy of what a lab is.

Do you mind. Dorothy has worked in a laboratory. Please be a little more courteous.
Thank you.
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[dwb001]

Do you mind. Dorothy has worked in a laboratory. Please be a little more courteous.
Thank you.
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Anyone can work somewhere and still be ignorant. Please don't be a Prov 26:17 person.

 

[Cooper]

Then why is there c14 in diamond?
How exactly do you KNOW that it takes millions of years for diamonds to form?
If a process can be done in a lab... then why not in nature?
Because a lab exists does not mean that a lab is the only place a process can be performed.
If coal takes a certain temperature/pressure and lack of oxygen... why can that process not have occurred just post flood?

Probably because coal that contains carbon 14 was used to make the fake diamonds.
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[dwb001]

Probably because coal that contains carbon 14 was used to make the fake diamonds.
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Mined diamonds... try again.

 

[Cooper]

Mined diamonds... try again.

Fake is not real. Goodbye.

 

[dwb001]

Fake is not real. Goodbye.

Why do you need the Earth to be old?
Do you deny God so much that you accept Darwin over Jesus?

 

[Dorothy Mae]

You don't appear to have a grasp of the philosophy of what a lab is.

I just about laughed out loud!! You obviously have never ever worked in a lab. I’ve worked in labs for 40 some years.

 

[dwb001]

I just about laughed out loud!! You obviously have never ever worked in a lab. I’ve worked in labs for 40 some years.

So what is the philosophy behind the lab?

 

[Cooper]

Why do you need the Earth to be old?
Do you deny God so much that you accept Darwin over Jesus?

I cannot be bothered to play these silly games, goodbye.
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[Dorothy Mae]

So what is the philosophy behind the lab?

Philosophy is usually in a different building altogether.

 

[Dorothy Mae]

I'm comparing this verse to the creation account.

Ah, good comparison. I have always wanted to ask those who believe in a 7 24 hour period of time for creation how time was measured in the first "days" when the sun was not yet created and put into place in relationship to the earth. If the earth is not turning and orbiting the sun, how was a 24 hour day measured?

 

[Dorothy Mae]

Anyone can work somewhere and still be ignorant. Please don't be a Prov 26:17 person.

That you ask about the philosophy of a lab shows me you never darkened the door of one. If you WANT to ask about the philosophy of SCIENCE, then that is an intelligent question, not the one you asked.

 

[Cooper]

Let's keep in mind 2 Peter 3:8;
"But do not let this one fact escape your notice, beloved, that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years like one day."

2 Peter 3:8
That one day is, with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day; referring either to Psa_90:4; or to a common saying among the Jews, founded on the same passage, הק בה אלף שנים יומו של, "the day of the holy blessed God is a thousand years."

Be not ignorant - Though they are wilfully ignorant, neglect not ye the means of instruction.
One day is with the Lord as a thousand years - That is: All time is as nothing before him, because in the presence as in the nature of God all is eternity; therefore nothing is long, nothing short, before him; no lapse of ages impairs his purposes, nor need he wait to find convenience to execute those purposes. And when the longest period of time has passed by, it is but as a moment or indivisible point in comparison of eternity.
This thought is well expressed by Plutarch, Consol. ad Apoll.: “If we compare the time of life with eternity, we shall find no difference between long and short. Τα γαρ χιλια, και τα μυρια ετη, στιγμη τις εστιν αοριστος, μαλλον δε μοριον τι βραχυτατον στιγμης· for a thousand or ten thousand years are but a certain indefinite point, or rather the smallest part of a point.” (Adam Clarke)

Time has no significance with regard to God, who, being outside of time, is beyond any earthly calculations we may make, relating to a realm that has no beginning or ending.
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[dwb001]

Philosophy is usually in a different building altogether.

So you are saying you have no idea why the lab idea exists in the first place because it is in a different building?
Lame duck answer to an actual question.
Maybe you just haven't thought about the question.

 

[dwb001]

That you ask about the philosophy of a lab shows me you never darkened the door of one. If you WANT to ask about the philosophy of SCIENCE, then that is an intelligent question, not the one you asked.

Why does the lab exist?
The philosophy behind the idea of a lab.
Sorry that my English is too difficult to follow.
After all I am a Retired Mennonite Goat Farmer.