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God is eternal. He has no beginning and no end. Humans are not eternal... We have a beginning. The reason that Christianity does not accept humans as being without beginning is because we do have a begginging.
We we made spirits before we were made flesh...In other words we did have a beginning,it was just not a flesh one...God made the earth for us,thats why we shouted for joy
Job 38:7
When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
After satan's rebellion,God destroyed this earth,brought it to ruins,which is how it became void and without form,as it was not created that way....
Strong's Exhaustive Concordance: Hebrew and Chaldee Dictionary:
"1961. hayah ... to exist, i.e. be or become, come to pass."
"8414. tohuw ... to lie waste; a desolation (of surface)."
Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2 And the earth was [or became — see Gen. 2:7; Strong's: hayah] without form [Strong's: tohuw], and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
[Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became [Strong's: hayah] a living soul.]
Isaiah 45:18 For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain [Strong's: tohuw] [RSV: he did not create a chaos], he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.
Genesis 1:1 "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth."
Note carefully what that verse said, yet didn’t say. In the beginning God created the Heaven and the Earth, period. The word "beginning", is the Hebrew "reshiyth", which means, first in place, time, order or rank. The creation here was the First Earth age. What happened to it? That is fully and accurately described by the next verse.
Genesis 1:2 "And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters."
Now, to read this at face value, it says that the earth was without form. Which must mean it was created without form. However, when you look at the Hebrew, you see something totally different. "Was" is "hayah", which means, became, come to pass. The word "Hayah" is always emphatic. That is to say, put the emphasis on the word "became". This same word was also used in Genesis 2:7. Check it out and see how it is worded there. "Without form" is "tohuw", which means, to lie waste, a desolation. "Void" is "bohuw", which means, a vacuity, an indistinguishable ruin. It will do you good to remember those words. We will see them again. Nevertheless, what is being said here is that the Earth was created. Then, it became a desolation and an undistinguishable ruin. It was destroyed. Then through the rest of chapter one in Genesis, the second Earth age was created. You see, Genesis 1:1 is timeless. There are no restrictions in the Bible for how old that age was. How about we take a look at this in a different place in the word?
Isaiah 45:18 "For thus saith the Lord That created the heavens; God Himself That formed the earth and made it; He hath established it, He created it not in vain, He formed it to be inhabited; "I am the Lord; and there is none else."
The word "vain†here is the same Hebrew word used in Genesis 1:2. It is "tohuw", a desolation. God did not create the world as a desolation. It became one. God created this world to be inhabited, and it was inhabited. In spite of this, it is taught that the world was created void. That is a false teaching devised by the imaginations of man. The Word clearly states that the Earth was created, destroyed, and refashioned in the form you are living in today. This is not that hard to understand. However, you do have to study the original languages to understand it. Let’s examine this in yet another place.
II Peter 3:5 "For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water."
People are willingly ignorant of this, because they don’t study the Word. "Willingly" is "thelo", which means, to choose or prefer. They choose to believe what they are taught, and prefer to be ignorant of the truth. These are not my words. They are God’s. The Heavens are of old or better said, ancient. The Earth standing in and out of the water would be continents and oceans. Again, the Earth was created to be inhabited. We will get to who inhabited it later.
II Peter 3:6 "Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished."
Yes, the world that was. That more than implies there is more than one Earth age."Overflowed" is "katakluzo", which means, to deluge. "Perished" is "apollumi", and as you have heard so many times before, it means to destroy fully. The first earth age was flooded with water, and destroyed. Then Genesis 1:3 picks up the narrative where the Second Earth Age starts to take form.
II Peter 3:7 "But the heavens and the earth which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men."
The current Earth age is reserved unto fire for the day of judgment. The first Earth age has already been destroyed by water. Wait a minute. Isn’t this speaking of Noah’s flood? Well, let’s document that it is not Noah’s flood.
Jeremiah 4:23 "I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light."
Sound familiar? It should. The phrase, [it was], was added by man. This would better read as, "I beheld the earth, and, lo, without form and void;". This is taking a look at the Earth just after it was destroyed, and describes the aftermath. "Without form, and void", is again, "tohuw va bohuw", just as it is in Genesis. It became a desolated wasteland.
Jeremiah 4:24 "I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly."
This is describing one major earthquake. "Trembled" is "raash", which means, to undulate. Well, what does the word undulate mean? It means to rise and fall or move from side to side in a smooth wave like motion. Mountains are pretty solid and it would take one powerful shaking to give them a "wave like" motion. "Moved lightly" is "qalal", which means, to be light in the sense of weight. Imagine if the mountains were moving like the ocean, the hills were being tossed around like featherweights. It was probably everything those little hills could do just to hang on! There were not any earthquakes recorded during Noah’s flood. So this verse is talking about something else entirely. Actually this describes what might have been the reaction of the Earth's thin surface crust floating on the surface of a molten sphere (not much different than it is today) if a large meteor hit it. The scientific community now believes this is exactly what happened in the Yucatan Peninsula that caused the extinction of all the Dinosaurs
Jeremiah 4:25 "I beheld, and lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled."
Let’s get the full idea of this. No one survived. In Noah’s flood there were at least eight survivors, with evidence for many more survivors, including birds. Noah sent out many birds for proof of the receding floodwaters. Granted, Noah’s flood was still a devastating flood. However, it was no where near the destruction described here. But wait, how could man not survive, if they had not yet been created? As we will learn deeper in this study, man had been created before. However, the angels and men were there, and so were some of the biggest animals known to man. We will get to that later. For now, let’s continue.(for evidence of man and dinosaurs together)
Jeremiah 4:26 "I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the Lord, and by His fierce anger."
Yes, there were fruitful places in the world that was. There were also cities. What happened to them? They were destroyed. They became "tohuw va bohuw". You don’t need to believe me that cities existed millions of years ago, ask an archaeologist. In the realm of science it is believed that this Earth met up with a disastrous event, but it is heavily debated what that event was. You are reading of that event now. However, If this was Noah’s flood, then how did the dove bring back a branch from an olive tree? It takes many years for an olive tree to grow. If the fruitful places were destroyed, there would have been nothing but a stick to bring back. The event described is an Earth shaking upheaval of the crust and oceans of the Earth not just a flood caused by rain. A forty day rain doesn't deposit fossils of seashells on the tops of mountains.
Jeremiah 4:27 "For thus hath the Lord said, "The whole land shall be desolate; yet will I not make a full end."
It was a full end of that Earth age. However, it was not a full end of the Earth. The end of this verse would be where Genesis 1:3 picks up. The world was totally obliterated. All life on the face of this Earth was destroyed, then re-created. The same thing will happen again at the end of this Earth age. It will be destroyed by fire, and again refurbished for the eternity.
2 Peter 3:10-13, "But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness."
What has happened before, will happen again. There is nothing new under the sun, (Ecclesiastes 1:9-10). So now that we have documented that there was an Earth age before this current one, let’s see who lived in that earth age. Pick it up at the ending of the book of Job, where God is putting all the "wisdom of man" to shame.
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