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[__ Science __ ] Do Conservatives have a “Difficult Relationship with Science”?
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Is it in the Bible?
People who can actually see the truth that masks are useless against the spread of COVID because the fabric is 80 microns whereas the bacteria is 1 micron, understand the truth.
I wear a mask
I've been near babies that sneeze and air borne droplets go all over the place and the parents just continue on like nothing happened.
I've been near people who sneeze all over their table and the floor and wipe their nose with their arm afterwards.
And this is in a restaurant
The mask does help with airborne droplets and you can come in contact with them anywhere.
I've been near babies that sneeze and air borne droplets go all over the place and the parents just continue on like nothing happened.
I've been near people who sneeze all over their table and the floor and wipe their nose with their arm afterwards.
And this is in a restaurant
The mask does help with airborne droplets and you can come in contact with them anywhere.
Barbarian
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Yes. It's not like catching fish in a net. Why do you think multiple layers in one mask makes them work better? Here's why:
Adv Colloid Interface Sci. 2021 Jun; 292
Face masks against COVID-19: Standards, efficacy, testing and decontamination methods
Filtration mechanisms
The vast majority of masks use the mechanism of filtration to function. It is important to note that a mask filter does not function as a simple strainer. Hence, the pore size of the mask alone does not determine its PFE. In general, the filtration mechanisms of masks involve both mechanical and electrostatic filtration (Fig. 5a) [58,59].
Filtration mechanisms of masks. (a) The filtration mechanisms of masks generally involve mechanical (MF) and electrostatic filtrations (EF). Adapted with permission from ref. [60]. Copyright 2020 American Chemical Society. (b) Gravity sedimentation, whereby a large particle falls and adheres to a fiber cross-section. The grey particle (top) falls onto the filter and adheres via van der Waals attraction, indicating successful filtration, shown in red. (c) Inertial impaction, whereby a large particle with large inertia travels linearly, eventually coming into contact with a fiber. The grey particle (left) does not follow the streamline around the fiber and is unable to avoid it, adhering and becoming filtered. (d) Interception, whereby a small particle is led to adhere to a fiber by motion along the streamline. (e) Diffusion, whereby Brownian motion of a small particle results in contact and adhesion to a fiber. (f) Electrostatic attraction, whereby a charged particle is trapped on a fiber of opposite charge through electrostatic attraction. Particles shown in b-f were not drawn to scale. Adapted with permission from ref. [59]. Copyright 2021 KeAi Communications Co.
Van der Waals attraction:
In molecular physics, the van der Waals force, named after Dutch physicist Johannes Diderik van der Waals, is a distance-dependent interaction between atoms or molecules. Unlike ionic or covalent bonds, these attractions do not result from a chemical electronic bond;[1] they are comparatively weak and therefore more susceptible to disturbance. The van der Waals force quickly vanishes at longer distances between interacting molecules.
Van der Waals force plays a fundamental role in fields as diverse as supramolecular chemistry, structural biology, polymer science, nanotechnology, surface science, and condensed matter physics. It also underlies many properties of organic compounds and molecular solids, including their solubility in polar and non-polar media.
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Yes. It's not like catching fish in a net. Why do you think multiple layers in one mask makes them work better? Here's why:
Adv Colloid Interface Sci. 2021 Jun; 292
Face masks against COVID-19: Standards, efficacy, testing and decontamination methods
Filtration mechanisms
The vast majority of masks use the mechanism of filtration to function. It is important to note that a mask filter does not function as a simple strainer. Hence, the pore size of the mask alone does not determine its PFE. In general, the filtration mechanisms of masks involve both mechanical and electrostatic filtration (Fig. 5a) [58,59].
Filtration mechanisms of masks. (a) The filtration mechanisms of masks generally involve mechanical (MF) and electrostatic filtrations (EF). Adapted with permission from ref. [60]. Copyright 2020 American Chemical Society. (b) Gravity sedimentation, whereby a large particle falls and adheres to a fiber cross-section. The grey particle (top) falls onto the filter and adheres via van der Waals attraction, indicating successful filtration, shown in red. (c) Inertial impaction, whereby a large particle with large inertia travels linearly, eventually coming into contact with a fiber. The grey particle (left) does not follow the streamline around the fiber and is unable to avoid it, adhering and becoming filtered. (d) Interception, whereby a small particle is led to adhere to a fiber by motion along the streamline. (e) Diffusion, whereby Brownian motion of a small particle results in contact and adhesion to a fiber. (f) Electrostatic attraction, whereby a charged particle is trapped on a fiber of opposite charge through electrostatic attraction. Particles shown in b-f were not drawn to scale. Adapted with permission from ref. [59]. Copyright 2021 KeAi Communications Co.
Van der Waals attraction:
In molecular physics, the van der Waals force, named after Dutch physicist Johannes Diderik van der Waals, is a distance-dependent interaction between atoms or molecules. Unlike ionic or covalent bonds, these attractions do not result from a chemical electronic bond;[1] they are comparatively weak and therefore more susceptible to disturbance. The van der Waals force quickly vanishes at longer distances between interacting molecules.
Van der Waals force plays a fundamental role in fields as diverse as supramolecular chemistry, structural biology, polymer science, nanotechnology, surface science, and condensed matter physics. It also underlies many properties of organic compounds and molecular solids, including their solubility in polar and non-polar media.
Sorry but It’s very simple.
A one micron bacteria can easily pass through an 80 micro hole.
The live demonstration is clear.
The science is clear.
They have lied about the masks, so I don’t trust them about the vaccine.
You do what you feel is best for you.
JLB
Biden's Top Covid Advisor CONCEDES That Cloth Masks Don't Work
Yet commence the mask mandates.
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Barbarian
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Most bacteria are much, much larger than that. But viruses are often that small. The point is, as you saw:
It is important to note that a mask filter does not function as a simple strainer. Hence, the pore size of the mask alone does not determine its PFE. In general, the filtration mechanisms of masks involve both mechanical and electrostatic filtration.
Yes. Electrostatic and van der Waals forces mean that many virus particles much smaller than the weave of fabric masks are trapped by the masks. Only the ones that manage to avoid contact or close approach to a fiber will escape. This is why fabric masks with several layers and masks with inserts of non-woven fabrics will be more efficient.
I don't think they lied to you. They just didn't know how the masks actually work. It's not like netting fish. Like that doctor who apparently didn't know the difference between water vapor and aerosols.
It's very efficient. And now Pfizer's vaccine has full approval as safe and effective, not just emergency authorized.
I have no problem with the earth bringing forth living things. I have a problem with your attempt to inject evolution into these verses. Which is what you are doing.
Oh really. Science agrees with the first three chapter of (Genesis)?
What does say science say about the Virgin Birth and Resurrection of Christ? What does science say about the Flood of Noah? What does science say about Joshua's long day and Jonah and the whale?
You have nothing, as is proved by your refusal to answer the questions. There is no evolution in the Bible.
Quantrill
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Well, that's a scientific issue. The literature has very well-established the effectiveness of masks. And the United States ran a huge experiment on their effectiveness. Comparing states with and without mask mandates, one immediately notes that the average infection rate in mask mandate states is much lower than the average infection rate in non-mask mandate states.
My, oh my. Answer my post #(48). You think you can ignore it by posting twice on the same post? Please.
Quit crawfishing.
As to the way God did it, He doesn't need my approval. Or yours. I believe the first three chapters of (Genesis) is exactly as God did it.
God created by His spoken Word the Universe. He created man, animals, sea life, and fowls, after their kind. Do you believe that?
What does science say about the first three chapters of (Genesis)?
Quantrill
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No. Evolution has nothing to do with the origin of life. Evolution assumes life began somehow, and just describes how it changes over time. Even Darwin just assumed that God created the first living things.
Barbarian
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Fortunately, babies are born with antibodies supplied by the mother. This is why we have mostly IgG antibodies, even though IgM is more effective. IgM is too large to cross the placenta.
Each of those little blue and orange structures are grabbers that attack germs. Notice IgM is very well-armed which is why it's more effective. Unfortunately it's too big to cross the placenta. So we mostly do with IgG.
Mother's antibodies amount to "passive immunity", which goes away in the first few months of life. This is why immunizations are put off until that passive immunity goes away, and the baby can form it's own immunity.
This is true. We, in America, are often way too obsessive about keeping kids clean. It's a good idea to let them get dirty and play in the dirt occasionally. The only reason we have polio vaccines, is because kids aren't normally exposed to the virus until they are too old to handle it well. You don't see paralytic polio in many third-world nations that have less obsessive mothers; by the time the kid is old enough to get paralytic polio, he's already encountered the virus, had a low-grade infection and has become immune.
At best, it won't be as healthy.
Evolution denies the first three chapters of (Genesis). It has everything to do with the origin of life. If it has nothing to do with the origin of life, then it, science, doesn't need to reject the first three chapters of (Genesis).
Evolution always 'assumes'. Means it don't know. Means you don't know.
The Bible is clear as to how life began It is described in the first three chapters of (Genesis).
What Darwin called god, was not the God of the Bible. Darwin rejected God.
Scripture is clear. God created after their kind. No evolution.
Quantrill
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Fortunately, babies are born with antibodies supplied by the mother. This is why we have mostly IgG antibodies, even though IgM is more effective. IgM is too large to cross the placenta.
Each of those little blue and orange structures are grabbers that attack germs. Notice IgM is very well-armed which is why it's more effective. Unfortunately it's too big to cross the placenta. So we mostly do with IgG.
Mother's antibodies amount to "passive immunity", which goes away in the first few months of life. This is why immunizations are put off until that passive immunity goes away, and the baby can form it's own immunity.
This is true. We, in America, are often way too obsessive about keeping kids clean. It's a good idea to let them get dirty and play in the dirt occasionally. The only reason we have polio vaccines, is because kids aren't normally exposed to the virus until they are too old to handle it well. You don't see paralytic polio in many third-world nations that have less obsessive mothers; by the time the kid is old enough to get paralytic polio, he's already encountered the virus, had a low-grade infection and has become immune.
At best, it won't be as healthy.
Point being, don't wear the stupid masks.
Quantrill
If you want to wear masks that have 80 Micron holes, and think it will block 1 micron bacteria, then that is your choice.
If you want to take a new mRNA vaccine, then that is your choice.
JLB
Barbarian
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Comes down to the data. As you see, it works. Remember it's not like netting fish. Particles adhere to the fibers by electrostatic and van der Waals forces. That's why it protects others more than it protects the wearer.
Doctors are sadly recounting dying people in ICUs, saying "I should have taken the vaccine", and having to tell them it's too late. All of those preventable. The dying is almost entirely unvaccinated people.
Even many mask deniers are telling people to get the vaccination.
Barbarian
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Most people by now, realize that they work. So even in my state where mask mandates were supposedly banned by the governor, many schools and local governments are ignoring him and doing the right thing, anyway.