Do you believe the Second Coming will occur in your lifetime

[noblej6]

hi jake,

No, you mis-understand, I do not follow you.

noble6

 

[Jake99]

The bible is written correctly at least as it pertains to what Jesus said and did but it is misunderstood in regards to what was literal and what was symbolic. If you confuse that difference by not knowing which it is, you miss the entire message that was being presented. Walking on water, resurrecting the dead, curing the deaf, dumb and blind and healing the sick are perfect examples. All of those things are easy to do systematically and the results would be nothing less than a miracle, literally speaking. Every time you permanently solve a problem you heal the sick in some way, unfortunately none of today or yesterdays leaders have permanently solved a problem. You don't have to be divine to perform miracles you just have to understand and say and do the way Jesus did. Only the man who walks the talk can possibly understand what the bible really says, otherwise a proper leader would have come forward earlier. If you knew the way you would be on the right path and the results would be miraculous. That being the case if you are looking for the second coming of Christ expect to find someone who totally disagrees with the leadership and operating systems of this planet. He will conceal himself for many years while at the same time performing many hundreds of miracles and prophecies right before your eyes. And then he would step forward and be tried and crucified. Are you ready for the man who turns the tables on the money changers? The one who casts the buyers and sellers out of the temple? The one who challenges and stands against your judges and elected officials?

 

[Darrell dunn]

Jake

Are you speaking of a man living on the earth now?

And has been in hiding?

 

[Jake99]

Yes Daryl, the man ( Messiah) you are looking for has already set the table here on earth by performing hundreds of miracles and prophecies over the last 50 years and the proof is overwhelming. Its a divine mission and story, and it was done secretly and yet openly before during and after the trials that happened just before and after Y2K. He verbally and in writing admitted or eluded to being the Christ and asked for the unconditional surrender of the judicial system of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts.

You were expecting a miracle worker and a big man who walks the talk to step forward and be judged at Y2K and that is what happened. He had to be tested to prove if he was a liar, a lunatic, an imposter or the Christ. The first three were ruled out by experts for the prosecution and the evidence supported that he could only be the Christ. History repeats itself and it has been carved in stone again while all were sleeping.

Only the messiah parks his chariot of fire in front of a tomb and comes forward with a bow and arrows over his shoulder to challenge the judicial system. The messiah is great at everything including law so he has no one to fear and he wins every time, even in court with his hands and feet bound after taking a beating.

You might want proof of what I say so a tid bit it is posted below in semi accurate form since it is of assumptions, legal arguments and facts combined. The documents start out small but an icon will appear that allows you to blow them up. Some take longer for the icon to appear than others. Its all about finding a believer now and that has been very difficult considering no one understands the sayings and ways of Jesus.

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[Vic C.]

Will you please explain to us in plain English what these documents have to do with the subject at hand? :-?

Thank you

 

[Jake99]

The documents are of the conclusion of one of two trials that the messiah went through at Y2K. Many judges challenged the messiah to prove himself and he did, just like he had been doing for 43 years and just as Jesus did. It was the war between Satan ( this world) and its accomplishments and ability VS the messiah and his accomplishments and ability and it was biblical from start to finish. It ended with the messiah's foot on Satans head which is where it remains until you stand behind him. The messiah won on every point of view in court and the references and witnesses and evidence to prophecy were too many to count. If you follow the messiah as a major US company and many others have, you will get the same miraculous results and simple operating systems that they did, which turned chaos into peace and prosperity in the twinkling of an eye from one side of the US to the other and back again. I am the man you are looking for that transforms complicated and failing systems into simple systems that work every time. I am all that the bible says the messiah is, but I am not the creator, just a servant on the right path that was given every gift possible with which to perform his mission.

 

[Vic C.]

No, you are delusional. :o

 

[BenJasher]

I don't hear anybody.

LOL, I'm still working out the details of these chapters to see where they fit into Revelation. So, I'm not inclined to answer that quite yet. ;-) So far, what I have gotten from Ch. 38 is a little background on Antichrist.

LOL! Try the Battle of Armageddon, Revelation 19. Also lines up nicely with Matthew 13, Matthew 24, and Luke 17 in the description of conditions at the end of the age, after the establishment of His Kingdom here on earth, and is detailing the removal of the wicked from the earth.

Not meaning to be a smart-aleck or anything, you undestand. 8-)

 

[Vic C.]

LOL, I'm still working out the details of these chapters to see where they fit into Revelation. So, I'm not inclined to answer that quite yet. ;-) So far, what I have gotten from Ch. 38 is a little background on Antichrist.

LOL! Try the Battle of Armageddon, Revelation 19. Also lines up nicely with Matthew 13, Matthew 24, and Luke 17 in the description of conditions at the end of the age, after the establishment of His Kingdom here on earth, and is detailing the removal of the wicked from the earth.

Not meaning to be a smart-aleck or anything, you undestand. 8-)

I didn't take it that way either Ben. Here, this may explain what I said and why I said it. It is a part of my post from the beginning of November...

Now when the AC comes to power this will take time, He does not just drop out of the sky in charge of the world.

Rev.6:3 the red horse, this is WW3, Ezek.38&39 The 7 years of burning the weapons can't start till after this. Ezek39;9

To be honest, I'm not sure how I can fit this into End Times. In Ezekiel 39:11-12, it says Gog and and all his multitudes (Magog) will be destroyed and buried. Yet in Revelation 20:8, we see Gog and Magog. I'm not sure if this passage in Ezekiel can be taken as symbolic if it's read and understood in a literal sense... and in light of the fact that they are destroyed in 39:11. How do I see this seven years as referring to Daniel's 70th. week?

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[BenJasher]

Well, just know this:
Matthew 13:37-43, Matthew 24:32-51, along with Luke 17:29-30, all agree with one timeline of events.

The wicked of the earth will be gathered out of His Kingdom and be cast into a furnace of fire, and that this will occur at the end of the age.

The prophecies confine themselves only to a certain group of people at a certain, and specific time. And they apply to noone else. Proper study of this subject will elucidate this.

Other passages of scripture, such as Revelations 19, or chapter 14 or even chapter 16 for that matter, and Ezkiel 38-39 only add to, confirm and substantiate and further detail for us what is to transpire as Matthew 13 and 24, and Luke 17 come to pass.

The wicked are to be removed from His Kingdom at the end of the age. In other words, His Kingdom will be already established on earth when the wicked are removed.

(Do you know how hard it is for me to keep my soapbox under the bench right now?)

 

[Jake99]

The lake of fire is where you are cleansed of the money changers, tax collectors, salesman, liars, cheaters and thieves. Its a system change that automates those jobs and creates the jobs that need to be done. It stops mankinds contributions to global warming in a short period of time and it ends most if not all wars. No one gets hurt and all are reborn into a perfect operating system that lasts forever.

Non profit, standard wages, set prices, equal opportunity, free basics, one currency, no lines on the map. Post all jobs on the internet that can be justified and work for yourself, all earnings are transferrable.

The messiah and those around him are very specific and they can be no other. That being the case please hear me and see what I have done which proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that I am the messiah.

 

[Vic C.]

That being the case please hear me and see what I have done which proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that I am the messiah.

Good bye Jake.