That's right, it's talking about groups, not "all individuals equally" as you want it to mean. Rev. 5:9 "... purchased for God with Your blood men from every tribe and tongue and people and nation" - means some individuals from all nations, this is what "not partial" means. God discriminates on the basis of His own will and pleasure, not on the basis of race or nationality. Look into it yourself, you'll see the context has this meaning every time it says "there is no partiality with God." The verse above says that God chose and redeemed some, not all. Therefore He loves some more than others.
Does God LOVE everybody
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Who does YHVH SAY HIMSELF, He Justifies, in Romans 2. whoever believes? no. whoever reads the Bible? no. whoever goes to church? no.
A very simple, no doctrines, no dogmas, no idolatry..... revelation of His Purpose, His Plan, in Romans 2. oh, not His Full Plan, but enough to SEE WHO HE SAYS HE HIMSELF JUSTIFIES. (and why)
Very few people have really defined what they mean by love. On the forum, most seem to define love in some way that they can avoid loving anyone, avoid the commandments of God, and still "claim" they love and those who show them otherwise do not love.
If God Loved us !
2 Thess 2:16-17
16 Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God, even our Father, which hath loved us, and hath given us everlasting consolation and good hope through grace,
17 Comfort your hearts, and stablish you in every good word and work.
If God Loved all men without exception as false religion says, then all men without exception should by God be given [not offered] everlasting consolation and good hope through Grace !
The basis of these gifts is the Love of God. Those God Loves He gives Eternal Comfort and Good Hope.5
2 Thess 2:16-17
16 Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God, even our Father, which hath loved us, and hath given us everlasting consolation and good hope through grace,
17 Comfort your hearts, and stablish you in every good word and work.
If God Loved all men without exception as false religion says, then all men without exception should by God be given [not offered] everlasting consolation and good hope through Grace !
The basis of these gifts is the Love of God. Those God Loves He gives Eternal Comfort and Good Hope.5
There are no other people in the world except Jews and Gentiles.
God loves all the individual people of the world.
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
John 3:16
God desires all the people of the world to be saved.
What God did is sent His Son to die for the world so that the world would be saved.
For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. John 3:17
Yes, God loved the world so much that he sent Jesus to save whom? Look at the context, a practice that is essential to interpret a verse correctly.
Joh 3:17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.
Joh 3:18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.
Joh 3:19 And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil.
Notice that these verses qualify the "world," Jesus says that many people reject him as the Light of the world, a claim he makes in chapters 8 and 9, where he heals a man born blind, who defends Jesus and is kicked out of the Jewish assembly on the Sabbath as a result.
That’s your opinion.
If God sent Hs Son to die for the sins of the world, how did He fail miserably?
The world refers to the world of unsaved people.
Some have tried to convince us that the world refers to people already saved.
That doesn’t seem to make much sense.
Why would saved people need saving?
"By the works of the law no flesh will be justified in His sight, for through the law comes the knowledge of sin."
"Who justifies as a gift by His grace through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus... and the justifier of him who believes."
So since you weren't clear on it, the one justified is the one who believes. Rom. 2 is about everyone being under sin including Jews.
The price was paid for those in the world to be saved.
The ones who believe will be saved.
If God Loves everyone without exception as it is falsely preached these days, what does His Love have to do with one being saved ? It would have nothing to do with it, since millions whom God Loved will be tormented forever and ever for their sins. To hear these false teachers tell it, God Loved eternally those, just as much as He did those who shall be Glorified with Him forever !
But scripture is clear that it is because of God's Great Love for His Elect that they are saved Eph 2:4-5
4But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
5Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved )
Those who believe God Loved all men without exception, say this Great Love that saves is powerless to save all whom He Loved ! 5
But scripture is clear that it is because of God's Great Love for His Elect that they are saved Eph 2:4-5
4But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
5Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved )
Those who believe God Loved all men without exception, say this Great Love that saves is powerless to save all whom He Loved ! 5
And you He made alive, who were dead in trespasses and sins, in which you once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience, among whom also we all once conducted ourselves in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, just as the others.
But God, who is rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us,
Ephesians 2:1-4
- And you He made alive, who were dead in trespasses and sins,
- in which you once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience,
- among whom also we all once conducted ourselves in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, just as the others.
This verses clearly show that -
we all were by nature children of wrath.
we all conducted ourselves in the lusts of our flesh
We all were the same as the others
No mention of any special elect group of people that God selected to be saved, but quite the contrary, Paul clearly shows that everybody is the same… children of the devil and by nature children of wrath just as the others.
Well, so much for TULIP!
JLB
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They were mentioned earlier in the letter in Eph 1:4
4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
They were mentioned earlier in the letter in Eph 1:4
4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: