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Does God LOVE everybody

Those who don't believe. The wrath of God abides on them.

Good News Translation
John 3:16
For God loved the world so much that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him may not die but have eternal life.

See that "so that" there"? It is telling us the reason why He sent His Son.
so that everyone who believes in him may not die but have eternal life.

John_3:36 He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him."

Same answer to your second question.

When you begin to study the scriptures, you will find that the biblical word believe carries the idea of commit, trust and obey.

We see different translations render the word believe as obey.

Also unbelief and disobedience are used interchangeably as well.


Take John 3:36 for example:

He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.” John 3:36 NKJV


He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him. John 3:36 NASB


In Hebrews we see the condition for receiving eternal life -


And having been perfected, He became the author of eternal salvation to all who obey Him. Hebrews 5:9





JLB
 
But you call Calvinism as doctrines of men.

Yes it’s the doctrine of John Calvin.

Those who follow John Calvin follow the teachings of John Calvin.

Those who follow Jesus follow His doctrine.

Take heed to yourself and to the doctrine. Continue in them, for in doing this you will save both yourself and those who hear you.
1 Timothy 4:16

  • for in doing this you will save both yourself and those who hear you.



JLB
 
Yes it’s the doctrine of John Calvin.

Those who follow John Calvin follow the teachings of John Calvin.

Those who follow Jesus follow His doctrine.

Take heed to yourself and to the doctrine. Continue in them, for in doing this you will save both yourself and those who hear you.
1 Timothy 4:16

  • for in doing this you will save both yourself and those who hear you.



JLB
for in doing this you will save both yourself and those who hear you.
Im already saved.

You know Jesus taught those doctrines before Calvin.

Why dont you follow the Lord's teachings on those doctrines?

JESUS ON TOTAL DEPRAVITY
Mark 7:15-23
Mark 10:18
Luke 18:9–14, Jesus commends the tax collector’s realistic view of himself as “a sinner.
John 8:34
John 3:19-21
John 8:44
Matthew 7:18

JESUS ON UNCONDITIONAL ELECTION
John 13:18
John 6:37-40
John 17:6-9
John 10:29
Matthew 11:25-30
Matthew 22:14

JESUS ON LIMITED ATONEMENT
John 10:11
John 10:15
Matthew 26:28
Luke 19:10
John 6:35-40

JESUS ON IRRESISTABLE GRACE
John 1:12-13
John 6:63-65
John 17:2
John 6:44
John 6:37
John 11:43

JESUS ON PERSEVERANCE OF THE SAINTS
John 6:39-40
John 10:27-30
John 5:24
John 6:47
John 17:2
John 3:16
 
None of these questions are derived from scripture.

They come from a belief system within your mind that is not based in scripture.

Here is an example of a question that is framed from scripture -

For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.

For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved
.
John 3:16-17

  • For God so loved the world
Who in the world is excluded from God’s love based on this scripture?

Everyone?
No one?
Some people?


My answer is no one is excluded from God’s love.

  • For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.

Who in the world is excluded from God’s plan to save the people of the world based on this scripture?

Everyone?
No one?
Some people?


My answer Is no one is excluded from God’s plan of salvation for the world based on this scripture.





JLB
Your interpretation of this verse is unbiblical, because your conclusions are based on a premise that conflicts with the wider context of scripture. The Bible states clearly that not everyone is saved, and therefore God doesn't love those not saved, in the same way He loves those He saves. So then, your premise regarding how "the world" is defined is based on your own idea, not on the text of scripture. In the context of 1st Century Judea, there were 2 kinds of people, Jews and non-Jews (gentiles).

So one can easily see that Jesus talking about "the world" means that God doesn't exclude gentiles as the Jews thought He did. So "the world" in this sense means people of all races, nationalities, etc. This is what "God is not a respector of persons" means, as I explained before. God is not a Jew, Israelite, Semite, nor is He a racist. This is what it means. So when we take the wider context of the Bible into account, "the world" means some portion or subset of all people everywhere. And this interpretation is Biblical, as we see in Rev. 5:9b "thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation."

Now, notice it says "out of..." which means a subset. "Many are called, but few are chosen." So then, there is a general calling to all mankind, but a choosing (election) of some favorites for redemption. And how do these people become favorites, and what is God's motivation for making them favorites? Is God motivated to redeem only those who qualify themselves for it? Or does He redeem people who don't qualify, but rather is motivated by His own love, and His own purpose? Need we go into Rom. 9, Eph. 1 & 2, and other places to rehash what has been said previously?

If indeed you believe that grace is unmerited, as you seem to have claimed, then where is the motivation for God to redeem some and not others, if indeed He is motivated by His love, as it states in Eph. 1 and 2? If, as you claim, that God loves everyone the same (I say it's a false and unbiblical idea), then how does God decide to redeem some and not others?

Therefore, your objection to my question is invalid. My questions are based on the truth that is taught in scripture. You cannot dismiss the question and claim it is not Biblical, because I've shown it is Biblical. From where I'm looking, if you refuse to answer the question, then it just proves that you don't know what you're talking about. If you think the question is unbiblical, the burden of proof is on you to show it. How is anything in the Bible contrary to the question? You keep quoting John 3:16 to prove your point, but I am showing clearly that your interpretation is unbiblical. So I will keep asking the question which gets to the heart of the matter:

We are left with 3 doctrinal choices, if we are to think reasonably concerning the doctrine of grace:
1. God elects by random chance (we know this is not true)
2. God elects by a merited action of those He initiates a grace relationship
3. God does not love everyone the same, since grace is unmerited

Which one is it for you?
 
Yes grace is used in this verse but you have not defined grace.
Why did you conveniently leave out the part where I clearly defined it, according to the proper reading of the verse? It's looking like you just want to argue.
 
A Converting Love !

Rev 1:5

5And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

We know it is a Myth that Christ Loved everyone without exception, simply because scripture testimony tells us that those He Loved, He washed them from their Sins in His own Blood.

That means He saved them. Having been washed from our sins is Salvation !

Now, there are many who shall die and did die in their sins ! Jn 8:21,24

Then said Jesus again unto them, I go my way, and ye shall seek me, and shall die in your sins: whither I go, ye cannot come.

I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

So how could Jesus have Loved these whom He declares shall die in their sins ? Because if He Loved them, He washed them from their sins by His own Blood !

Not only that, He also, those whom He Loved and Washed, He made them as a consequence Kings and Priests unto God, His Father, which speaks to their New Birth and Conversion ! Vs 6

6And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

Christ's Love is a converting Love, at least the Christ I serve is ! 5
 
When you begin to study the scriptures, you will find that the biblical word believe carries the idea of commit, trust and obey.

We see different translations render the word believe as obey.

Also unbelief and disobedience are used interchangeably as well.
This doesn't change anything. God sent His Son so that all those who believe shall not perish.
Unless you want to deny God's omniscience and foreknowledge then you know that when God sent His Son He already know who would not believe or obey and thus perish.

John_6:64 But there are some of you who do not believe." For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were who did not believe, and who would betray Him.

If Jesus knew from the beginning, you can be sure that the Father did. Therefore, the Son was not sent for those He knew would not believe.
 
Im already saved.

Yes. Amen.

Timothy was also saved, as well as those whom Timothy was overseeing.


You know Jesus taught those doctrines before Calvin.

Why dont you follow the Lord's teachings on those doctrines?

I am giving you scripture, words that are from Jesus Christ.

If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned. John 15:6

Jesus admonishes us to remain in Him.

John goes on to instruct us how to remain in Christ…

Now he who keeps His commandments abides in Him, and He in him. And by this we know that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us. 1 John 3:24
 
Your interpretation of this verse is unbiblical, because your conclusions are based on a premise that conflicts with the wider context of scripture.

Here is what I believe based on the words from Jesus Christ.

For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.

  • I believe God loves the world of unsaved people.


For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.
John 3:16-17

  • I believe God desires that the world of unsaved people to be saved through His Son Jesus Christ.


But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. For if you love those who love you, what reward have you? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? And if you greet your brethren only, what do you do more than others? Do not even the tax collectors do so? Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect.
Matthew 5:44-48


Jesus wants us to love everyone, even our enemies, just as our Heavenly Father loves.




JLB
 
Why did you conveniently leave out the part where I clearly defined it, according to the proper reading of the verse? It's looking like you just want to argue.

I haven’t seen where you defined grace.

I only saw where you quoted a scripture with the word grace in it.

Please copy and paste where you defined grace so I can see it.


Do you agree with my definition of grace?
 
God sent His Son so that all those who believe shall not perish.

God sent His Son because He loves the world.

For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. John 3:16

Those from the world who believe will be saved.
 
Jesus admonishes us to remain in Him.
1 John 5:4 For whatever is born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world—our faith.

Jude 1:24 Now to Him who is able to keep you from stumbling, And to present you faultless Before the presence of His glory with exceeding joy

1 Peter 1:5 who are kept by the power of God . . .

If you are truly born of God, you are kept by the power of God and will remain in Him, because Jesus Himself is able to keep you from stumbling.
 
God sent His Son because He loves the world.
Yes, but just because He loves the world, doesn't mean that He loves every person in the world.

I'm sure President Biden loves the United States, but I am sure he does not love half the people in it.

You see the word "world" and instead see "the whole human race." They are not the same.
 
1 John 5:4 For whatever is born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world—our faith.

Jude 1:24 Now to Him who is able to keep you from stumbling, And to present you faultless Before the presence of His glory with exceeding joy

1 Peter 1:5 who are kept by the power of God . . .

If you are truly born of God, you are kept by the power of God and will remain in Him, because Jesus Himself is able to keep you from stumbling.

Whoever hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him. 1 John 3:15

Christians who hate are considered by God as murderers.

  • you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him.

Also if we refuse to forgive and hold unforgiveness then God will not forgive our sins.


Should you not also have had compassion on your fellow servant, just as I had pity on you?’ And his master was angry, and delivered him to the torturers until he should pay all that was due to him.
“So My heavenly Father also will do to you if each of you, from his heart, does not forgive his brother his trespasses
.”
Matthew 18:33-35
 
Christians who hate are considered by God as murderers.
Christians who hate are false Christians.

1 John 2:9 He who says he is in the light, and hates his brother, is in darkness until now.
1 John_4:20 If someone says, "I love God," and hates his brother, he is a liar

What does this have to do with anything I have written?
 
Yes. Amen.

Timothy was also saved, as well as those whom Timothy was overseeing.




I am giving you scripture, words that are from Jesus Christ.

If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned. John 15:6

Jesus admonishes us to remain in Him.

John goes on to instruct us how to remain in Christ…

Now he who keeps His commandments abides in Him, and He in him. And by this we know that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us. 1 John 3:24
What does that have to do with my post?
 
Christians who hate are false Christians.

1 John 2:9 He who says he is in the light, and hates his brother, is in darkness until now.
1 John_4:20 If someone says, "I love God," and hates his brother, he is a liar

What does this have to do with anything I have written?

The Christian who hates his brother started off being a brother in Christ, then he no longer has eternal life abiding in him.


Whoever hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him. 1 John 3:15


By saying his brother, John is referring to two Christians.


False Christian is not mentioned.
 
JLB



Those in Jn 3:16 arent unsaved, they are believers.

John 3:16 refers to God loving the world, and His condition for those in the world to receive everlasting life.

For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. John 3:16


Whoever in the world believes will receive everlasting life.

Whoever does not believe will not receive everlasting life.
 
The Christian who hates his brother started off being a brother in Christ, then he no longer has eternal life abiding in him.


Whoever hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him. 1 John 3:15


By saying his brother, John is referring to two Christians.


False Christian is not mentioned.
These are not 2 Christians.

1 John 3:12-17 address the characteristic lack of love displayed by the children of the devil, while in verses 1 John 3:18-24 he talks about the characteristics of love displayed by the children of God
 
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