Does man naturally have ability to Seek God ?

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As we were not conversing, my aside can hardly be considered a failure to answer any argument.
I can see my referral to your disdain of my use of the word "I", has hit a sore spot with you.
Good.
You are wrong. But your savoring what you hoped would be an insult tells us about your claimed state of sinlessness.
Some are glad you can indeed see how silly it is to denigrate someone for using the word "I".
Then why do you rejoice if it’s “silly?”
Mission accomplished.
It might be, perhaps, common for some sites to ban those who hold to the “I am sinless now” theology. It is really better to them them talk and observe. Because without fail, all of them demonstrate very clearly that sin still has a grip on them, you included. You aren’t the first person to claim they are sinless and you aren’t the first to demonstrate in your posts how untrue that claim actually is.
 
When I say men naturally i mean the unregenerate man, in the flesh, never born again ? Can this person seek after the True and Living God ? The answer is NO !

Scripture makes that clear, that man naturally doesnt seek after God Rom 3:9-12

9 What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;
10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
11There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

The word seekth here is related to and joined with Faith here Heb 11:1,6

Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

Now the word seek here and the one in Rom 3:11 are the same greek word ekzeteo which means:

I seek out, seek out after, require.

to seek the favor of God, worship him

And believing Faith seeks after the True God. But because of our depravity by nature, we dont seek after God, nor have the ability to !
You are correct...

Belief is a GIFT - Phil 1:29 - "For you have been granted [the gift] to grant as a favor for Christ's sake not only to believe in Him, but also to suffer in His behalf."

Faith is a GIFT - Eph 2:8-10 - "For it is by free grace (God's unmerited favor) that you are saved (delivered from judgment and made partakers of Christ's salvation) through [ the gift of] faith. And this [salvation] is not of yourselves, but it is the gift of God; Not because of works [not the fulfillment of the Law's demands], lest any man should boast. [It is not the result of what anyone can possibly do, so no one can pride himself in it or take glory to himself.] For we are God's [own] handiwork (His workmanship), recreated in Christ Jesus, [born anew] that we may do those good works which God predestined (planned beforehand) for us [taking paths which He prepared ahead of time], that we should walk in them [living the good life which He prearranged and made ready for us to live].

Knowing this... you can fully understand...
NASB Act 13:48 When the Gentiles heard this, they began rejoicing and glorifying the word of the Lord; and as many as had been appointed to eternal life believed.

CEV Act 13:48 This message made the Gentiles glad, and they praised what they had heard about the Lord. Everyone who had been chosen for eternal life then put their faith in the Lord.

NASB Joh 6:65 And He was saying, "For this reason I have said to you, that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted him from the Father."

CEV Joh 6:65 Then Jesus said, "You cannot come to me, unless the Father makes you want to come. That is why I have told these things to all of you."

These verses are about the coming Kingdom... Who will be chosen to be in the 1000 year reign of Jesus! Those who reign with Jesus will be chosen by LOT! We have no say!!!

NASB Eph 1:11 also we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to His purpose who works all things after the counsel of His will,

Net Eph 1:11 In Christ28 we too have been claimed as God's own possession,29(G2820) since we were predestined (G4309) according to the one purpose of him who accomplishes all things according to the counsel of his will

29 tn Grk "we were appointed by lot." The notion of the verb κληρόω (klēroō) in the OT was to "appoint a portion by lot" (the more frequent cognate verb κληρονομέω [klēronomeō] meant "obtain a portion by lot"). In the passive, as here, the idea is that "we were appointed [as a portion] by lot" (BDAG 548 s.v. κληρόω 1). The words "God's own" have been supplied in the translation to clarify this sense of the verb. An alternative interpretation is that believers receive a portion as an inheritance: "In Christ we too have been appointed a portion of the inheritance." See H. W. Hoehner, Ephesians, 226-27, for discussion on this interpretive issue.

Word study
G2820

κληρόω
klēróō; contracted klērṓ, fut. klērṓsō, from klḗros (G2819), a lot. To cast lots, determine by lot, i.e., to determine something, choose someone. In Eph_1:11, it means, "in whom the lot has fallen upon us also, as foreordained thereto . . . to be" (a.t.). The idea expressed here is that Christians have become heirs of God due to the fact that God predestined them according to His purpose. In a manner of speaking, the "lot" fell to believers not by chance but solely because of the gracious and sovereign decision of God- Almighty to select them to be His heirs.
Deriv.: prosklēróō (G4345), to give or assign by lot.

Now.... That's a LOT to take in...
Paul
 
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You are correct...

Belief is a GIFT - Phil 1:29 - "For you have been granted [the gift] to grant as a favor for Christ's sake not only to believe in Him, but also to suffer in His behalf."

Faith is a GIFT - Eph 2:8-10 - "For it is by free grace (God's unmerited favor) that you are saved (delivered from judgment and made partakers of Christ's salvation) through [ the gift of] faith. And this [salvation] is not of yourselves, but it is the gift of God; Not because of works [not the fulfillment of the Law's demands], lest any man should boast. [It is not the result of what anyone can possibly do, so no one can pride himself in it or take glory to himself.] For we are God's [own] handiwork (His workmanship), recreated in Christ Jesus, [born anew] that we may do those good works which God predestined (planned beforehand) for us [taking paths which He prepared ahead of time], that we should walk in them [living the good life which He prearranged and made ready for us to live].

Knowing this... you can fully understand...
NASB Act 13:48 When the Gentiles heard this, they began rejoicing and glorifying the word of the Lord; and as many as had been appointed to eternal life believed.

CEV Act 13:48 This message made the Gentiles glad, and they praised what they had heard about the Lord. Everyone who had been chosen for eternal life then put their faith in the Lord.

NASB Joh 6:65 And He was saying, "For this reason I have said to you, that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted him from the Father."

CEV Joh 6:65 Then Jesus said, "You cannot come to me, unless the Father makes you want to come. That is why I have told these things to all of you."

These verses are about the coming Kingdom... Who will be chosen to be in the 1000 year reign of Jesus! Those who reign with Jesus will be chosen by LOT! We have no say!!!

NASB Eph 1:11 also we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to His purpose who works all things after the counsel of His will,

Net Eph 1:11 In Christ28 we too have been claimed as God's own possession,29(G2820) since we were predestined (G4309) according to the one purpose of him who accomplishes all things according to the counsel of his will

29 tn Grk "we were appointed by lot." The notion of the verb κληρόω (klēroō) in the OT was to "appoint a portion by lot" (the more frequent cognate verb κληρονομέω [klēronomeō] meant "obtain a portion by lot"). In the passive, as here, the idea is that "we were appointed [as a portion] by lot" (BDAG 548 s.v. κληρόω 1). The words "God's own" have been supplied in the translation to clarify this sense of the verb. An alternative interpretation is that believers receive a portion as an inheritance: "In Christ we too have been appointed a portion of the inheritance." See H. W. Hoehner, Ephesians, 226-27, for discussion on this interpretive issue.

Word study
G2820

κληρόω
klēróō; contracted klērṓ, fut. klērṓsō, from klḗros (G2819), a lot. To cast lots, determine by lot, i.e., to determine something, choose someone. In Eph_1:11, it means, "in whom the lot has fallen upon us also, as foreordained thereto . . . to be" (a.t.). The idea expressed here is that Christians have become heirs of God due to the fact that God predestined them according to His purpose. In a manner of speaking, the "lot" fell to believers not by chance but solely because of the gracious and sovereign decision of God- Almighty to select them to be His heirs.
Deriv.: prosklēróō (G4345), to give or assign by lot.

Now.... That's a LOT to take in...
Paul
Then all the billions who end up in hell were chosen by God to go there!!! They were never a “whosoever will” but before birth destined for Hell!! No hope and no mercy!!
 
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God created man in his own image to begin with and woman as the church, so the idea that people have no "natur(e)-al ability to seek God cannot be true.

Yes but man naturally sinned in Adam, and his natural uprightness was corrupted and he died to God, that image is now restored in regeneration Eph 4:23-24

23 And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;

24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.

Mans natural ability to seek God is gone, sorry !
 
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Yes but man naturally sinned in Adam, and his natural uprightness was corrupted and he died to God, that image is now restored in regeneration Eph 4:23-24

23 And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;

24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.

Mans natural ability to seek God is gone, sorry !
Then Solomons' admonition is pointless. You see? You believe a child has no ability to believe in God, That simply isn't true And regarding the passage you cited, Paul is encouraging them to continue in faith, which again is pointless, since you believe they have no ability to continue in faith.
 
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As I stated in the last thread you started, do not start anymore threads that are nothing more than a disguise to introduce your Calvinistic beliefs.

Wait - what are you saying? Do you have the authority to make that kind of edict? If you do, does that
then mean those who believe in the absolute sovereignty of God's will are excluded from these forums and only
those who agree with you and your ilk are allowed post?
 
You may call it calvinism in derision, yet its the word of God, God has taught me. Jn 6:44-45

44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.

Pretty hard to see how anyone can argue with those verses regarding salvation, isn't it?
 
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It’s easy as pie. One just needs to read all those words about deeds and no words about preselection.

Well, yeah, but we're supposed to read the whole Bible: God's mercy and grace could not be possible without (His) preselection.
 
Actually preselection grants billions no mercy at all. None. No hope.
Freewill grants no mercy for those (billions) who are unable to come into contact with the doctrines of Christianity:
the very young, the very old, the infirm, those without access to it, ETC. What happens to them?
 
Freewill grants no mercy for those (billions) who are unable to come into contact with the doctrines of Christianity:
Correction, Calvinism grants no mercy. God grants mercy to those unable to come into contact with Christ. Doctrines aren’t the main idea. Forgiveness is, which isn’t a doctrine we learn.
the very young, the very old, the infirm, those without access to it, ETC. What happens to them?
The very young have no awareness of moral choices. The very old are often full of guilt from a long life of sin sans forgiveness. The infirm doesn’t mean they can neither sin nor repent. What does being ill have to do with the matter?
 
You are wrong.
Then why are you responding?
But your savoring what you hoped would be an insult tells us about your claimed state of sinlessness.
I was merely pointing out your hypocrisy.
Then why do you rejoice if it’s “silly?”
Some are glad you see how unreasonable it is to accuse someone of sin for just using the word "I".
It might be, perhaps, common for some sites to ban those who hold to the “I am sinless now” theology. It is really better to them them talk and observe. Because without fail, all of them demonstrate very clearly that sin still has a grip on them, you included. You aren’t the first person to claim they are sinless and you aren’t the first to demonstrate in your posts how untrue that claim actually is.
Was Jesus' blood able to wash away all your past sins?
It was fully capable for me, thanks be to God, enabling me to say "I have no sin".
If different forum mods feel that Jesus blood is incapable of washing away sins, they can ban folks for positing a false doctrine that Jesus' blood IS capable of washing away past sins.

I apologize for allowing my aside to turn into a derail.
 
Freewill grants no mercy for those (billions) who are unable to come into contact with the doctrines of Christianity:
the very young, the very old, the infirm, those without access to it, ETC. What happens to them?
If they want it, it will be brought to them.
Like the Ethiopian eunuch.
Like me.