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Does my teacher have Jesus?

Tenchi said:
Who are, exactly?
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The one that is different=no part of this world. Did you ever stop and think what that meant? Like no voting for corrupt mortal govts who are standing in opposition to Gods king. No pagan filled world celebrations or ones done by bloodshed or promotion of self. Things like that.
 
Who Me said:
Interesting, I suppose you're basing this on thessalonians4:16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.

That as Jesus comes with the voice of an archangel, he is an archangel!
But he comes with the trumpet of God, so he is also God.

Hebrews makes crystal clear Jesus is Not an angel.
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Actually the trumpet of God announces this ride( Rev 6:2-which is the war in heaven--White horse= righteous war. Michael took that ride, yet at 6:2-he receives his crown-Only Jesus gets the crown( birth of Gods kingdom.) Rev 12 explains Rev 6:2--Rev 19:11= same ride continued yet Jesus is named. The ride doesn't stop until Rev 21 begins.
And yes Jesus comes with the voice of the archangel, its his voice.
Daniel 12:1--It is Michael who stands up for Gods chosen in the last days= Jesus.
 
kjw47 said:
Actually the trumpet of God announces this ride( Rev 6:2-which is the war in heaven--White horse= righteous war. Michael took that ride, yet at 6:2-he receives his crown-Only Jesus gets the crown( birth of Gods kingdom.) Rev 12 explains Rev 6:2--Rev 19:11= same ride continued yet Jesus is named. The ride doesn't stop until Rev 21 begins.
And yes Jesus comes with the voice of the archangel, its his voice.
Daniel 12:1--It is Michael who stands up for Gods chosen in the last days= Jesus.
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You are confusing Michael with Jesus .
They are different beings.
 
kjw47 said:
No they aren't. I just shared the bible proof.-- Do you think Michael loans Jesus his voice or its Jesus' voice? 1Thess 4:16
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There was no "Jesus" until the Word took on flesh and was born of a woman.
As for 1 Thes 4:16, the Lord Jesus shall indeed descend with a shout, "plus" an archangel's voice, "plus" God's trumpet's call, which aren't the Lord Jesus' voice or trumpet.
 
Hopeful 2 said:
There was no "Jesus" until the Word took on flesh and was born of a woman.
As for 1 Thes 4:16, the Lord Jesus shall indeed descend with a shout, "plus" an archangel's voice, "plus" God's trumpet's call, which aren't the Lord Jesus' voice or trumpet.
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Yes God sent Michael his very best. Its Michael who is standing up for Gods chosen here in these last days( Dan 12:1)--As Gods appointed king.
 
kjw47 said:
Actually the trumpet of God announces this ride( Rev 6:2-which is the war in heaven--White horse= righteous war. Michael took that ride, yet at 6:2-he receives his crown-Only Jesus gets the crown( birth of Gods kingdom.) Rev 12 explains Rev 6:2--Rev 19:11= same ride continued yet Jesus is named. The ride doesn't stop until Rev 21 begins.
And yes Jesus comes with the voice of the archangel, its his voice.
Daniel 12:1--It is Michael who stands up for Gods chosen in the last days= Jesus.
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Context as always shows up false belief.
The Lamb opens the seal. The 1st rider has a conquers crown. He may be Michael, but as Jesus the Lamb of God opened the seal that 5he rider cameout of. The rider is Not Jesus.
 
Who Me said:
Context as always shows up false belief.
The Lamb opens the seal. The 1st rider has a conquers crown. He may be Michael, but as Jesus the Lamb of God opened the seal that 5he rider cameout of. The rider is Not Jesus.
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God does it all through Jesus. Jesus is the rider of the white horse-here Rev 6:2 and here Rev 19:11
Does Michael loan Jesus his voice, or is it Jesus' voice? 1 Thess 4:16
 
Hopeful 2 said:
You read the verse the way the twisters of scripture want you to read it.
They don't beleive that Jesus is the Son of God !
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We 100% believe Jesus is Gods son. All sons are created by their Father. Jesus has a God. God does not have a God.
 
kjw47 said:
We 100% believe Jesus is Gods son. All sons are created by their Father. Jesus has a God. God does not have a God.
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If you actually believe that the Word took on flesh and was born of a woman as Jesus, why do you continue to commit sin ?
He said..."Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect." (Matt 5:48)
 
kjw47 said:
God does it all through Jesus. Jesus is the rider of the white horse-here Rev 6:2 and here Rev 19:11
Does Michael loan Jesus his voice, or is it Jesus' voice? 1 Thess 4:16
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Read it again. Jesus opens the scrolls seal and the riders come out of the scroll.
You have Jesus in two places at once.
That is a contradiction and so is a false belief.
 
Hopeful 2 said:
If you actually believe that the Word took on flesh and was born of a woman as Jesus, why do you continue to commit sin ?
He said..."Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect." (Matt 5:48)
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None can be perfect in an imperfect state of being. But one must do the utmost to the best of their abilities to try to attain to be as perfect as humanly possible in an imperfect state of being.
 
Who Me said:
Read it again. Jesus opens the scrolls seal and the riders come out of the scroll.
You have Jesus in two places at once.
That is a contradiction and so is a false belief.
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Jesus can open the scroll and still be the rider of the white horse. 2 simple tasks.
 
kjw47 said:
None can be perfect in an imperfect state of being.
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One can be perfectly obedient to God in a crippled body.
kjw47 said:
But one must do the utmost to the best of their abilities to try to attain to be as perfect as humanly possible in an imperfect state of being.
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What is the point of trying to be something you say is impossible ?

Turn from all sin.
Get baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of past sins. (Acts 2:38)
At that water baptism in Jesus' name, you will also destroy the old man and be raised with Christ to walk in newness of life. (Rom 6:4-7)
Reborn.
You will receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. (Acts 2:38)
Endure faithfully until the end, and you will be raised to eternal life with God. (John 5:29)
 
Hopeful 2 said:
One can be perfectly obedient to God in a crippled body.

What is the point of trying to be something you say is impossible ?

Turn from all sin.
Get baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of past sins. (Acts 2:38)
At that water baptism in Jesus' name, you will also destroy the old man and be raised with Christ to walk in newness of life. (Rom 6:4-7)
Reborn.
You will receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. (Acts 2:38)
Endure faithfully until the end, and you will be raised to eternal life with God. (John 5:29)
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1Kings 8:46-There is no man that does not sin.
 
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