Tenchi
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You haven't answered my question.
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Does my teacher have Jesus?
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You haven't answered my question.
I did answer it--Unity of thought ( 1Cor 1:10)---as well as always at peace and love. never standing on both sides of wars as the ones who threw Jesus away did in the Rev war, the civil war, ww1,ww2.
But not Jesus riding that horse.
Tenchi
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Unity in what "thought," exactly?
1 Corinthians 1:10-17 )
10 I appeal to you, brothers, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree, and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be united in the same mind and the same judgment.
11 For it has been reported to me by Chloe’s people that there is quarreling among you, my brothers.
12 What I mean is that each one of you says, “I follow Paul,” or “I follow Apollos,” or “I follow Cephas,” or “I follow Christ.”
13 Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul?
14 I thank God that I baptized none of you except Crispus and Gaius,
15 so that no one may say that you were baptized in my name.
16 (I did baptize also the household of Stephanas. Beyond that, I do not know whether I baptized anyone else.)
17 For Christ did not send me to baptize but to preach the gospel, and not with words of eloquent wisdom, lest the cross of Christ be emptied of its power.
In context, Paul's command to the believers at Corinth to be "united in the same mind and judgment" had to do with not participating in partisan squabbling. Some of the believers at Corinth were fans of Paul, others of Apollos, and some of Peter (Cephas). There were also some who rejected all Church leaders, following only Jesus. Paul went on in his letter addressing this partisan behavior:
1 Corinthians 2:5
5 ...your faith might not rest in the wisdom of men but in the power of God.
and,
1 Corinthians 3:5-8
5 What then is Apollos? What is Paul? Servants through whom you believed, as the Lord assigned to each.
6 I planted, Apollos watered, but God gave the growth.
7 So neither he who plants nor he who waters is anything, but only God who gives the growth.
8 He who plants and he who waters are one, and each will receive his wages according to his labor.
1 Corinthians 4:6
6 I have applied all these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, brothers, that you may learn by us not to go beyond what is written, that none of you may be puffed up in favor of one against another.
Paul's command to the believers at Corinth to be "united in the same mind and judgment" was a way of saying, "Stop being fan-boys of mere men" and "All of you rest your faith instead in God who 'gives growth,' and 'tests the works of men,' and will 'destroy he who destroys the temple of God'" (1 Corinthians 3:1-3; 3:6-7; 3:11-16).
I'm not sure, then, how you get from 1 Corinthians 1:10 to a unity of thought that is "always at peace and love." Was this the case for Jesus? Was he always "at peace and love"? He made a whip of cords and twice chased folks out of the temple in Jerusalem (John 2:13-16; Matthew 21:12); he called a Canaanite women seeking an exorcism of her daughter a "dog" (Matthew 15:22-28); he verbally excoriated the Pharisees, calling them "sons of hell," "hypocrites," "the brood of vipers," and "whitewashed tombs full of corpses" (Matthew 23); he regularly chided his own disciples for being hardened in their hearts, disbelieving and dull of understanding; he spoke of bringing a sword that would divide families rather than unite them in peace (Matthew 10:34-35). So, how do these things reflect the "peace and love" that you say defines what it is to be a Christian?
It is Jesus=Michael.
Gods 1 truth. The 1 truth Jesus promised that the holy spirit would guide his into( all of it). Not hundreds of different truths in hundreds of different religions that claim to be christian.99% of those religions are a mass of confusion. Gods 1 truth in 1 single religion. One religion is all that is needed to maintain unity.
So you keep saying, but you cannot explain how Jesus can open a seal and then ride out of the seal he has opened.
Tenchi
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This ignores everything I pointed out to you. Did you not understand what I wrote? Or do you just not care about discussing your perspective?
No one rides out of a seal.
Fact= God has 1 truth, not hundreds of opposing truths on matters like the false religions claiming to be christian present.
Read revelation"- 6 I watched as the Lamb opened the first of the seven seals. Then I heard one of the four living creatures say in a voice like thunder, ‘Come!’ 2 I looked, and there before me was a white horse! Its rider held a bow, and he was given a crown, and he rode out as a conqueror bent on conquest.
Why is one of the four ,I've g creatures saying " come. "?
Is it not because the four horsemen are coming out of the scroll being opened by Jesus.
It does not say the white horse rode out of the seal. The scroll is the will of God. The events of the scroll occur.
Yet you believe Jesus is on the 1st horse and is somehow still opening the seals as a living creature shouts " Come ".
Where else do these horseman appear from?
Yet God has given some to be teachers to equip them for works of "service" so that the body of Christ may be built up.
In the NT Stephen was the man that was selected by the Apostles to wait on tables as the Apostles had stated its not right for us to wait on tables. He was full of the Holy Spirit and faith and "God" performed signs and wonders through Him. Stephen as we read was stoned to death because of his testimony of Jesus. Jesus's faithful witness.
A true teacher therefore is not of themselves but the grace of God working in and through them as in God is the source of their wisdom and understanding.
The horsemen are symbolic for events that occur-it is 1914 and after these events occur. The white horse represents righteous war in revelation. 6:2 he receives his crown= only Jesus is Gods appointed king, only he is getting the crown.
Rev 19:11 is just a continuation of the ride at 6:2. It doesn't stop until here-Rev 21:1, 1Cor 15:24-28 occurs.
I agree but Jesus said none are to be called teachers-Matt 23:8--- They don't teach what God the Father has taught to Jesus, who then imparted those truths to his followers. They share Gods truths for free just as it was given to all, free.
Strange how you cannot read the written words in the bible.
Yes Jesus came in 1914, invisibly and in 1925 the ' princes' would return to America.
Then there is the latest 1975 the return again of Jesus.
"According to this trustworthy Bible chronology six thousand years from man’s creation will end in 1975, and the seventh period of a thousand years of human history will begin in the fall of 1975 C.E.” (Life Everlasting in Freedom of the Sons of God, 1966, pg 29)."
You really need to member that according to Watchtower tracts it is not persecution to expose the errors of a religious organisation.
And don't forget the watch towers favourite spiritualist ' Johannes Greber ' whose translation of the Bible saying Jonh 1 said " a god " has been used since the 1950's.
I 'm sure you have heard these and far Morland will dismiss them as unfounded, but they are all based on what the watch tower itself has said.
Do look into it.
Your eternal destination depends on it.
The gifts of the Spirit are stated by Paul and teachers is listed.
Yes they made errors and corrected the errors. Its the false religions who think they are immune to satan that never make correction. Satan started infiltrating errors in Peters books. Titus was left behind to correct error teachings that were getting in. Satan is relentless against Jesus' real religion and followers. Making corrections when errors are found is the important thing.
Here is a major error taught by those who think they are immune- All partake of the emblems of the Lords supper=a major sin for most that are told to partake.--Fact-Luke 22:29-30--a covenant made to those who will sit on thrones)) to these=Luke 12:32) the little flock( not the great crowd)--the anointed bride of Christ= numbered=144,000 bought from the earth( Rev 14:3)--these will rule as kings and priests alongside of Jesus( Rev 1:6, Rev 20:6)
Paul assures all are not worthy to partake- 1Cor 11:27-29--yet the blind guides tell ALL to partake and make them guilty of a major sin.
Yes the ones taking the lead do teach.