Sadly, OSAS has created an immoral, godless church.
This is incorrect. It's not the doctrine that has done this. It is the FAILURE to teach the whole council of God that has resulted in this very sad state of affairs. Because the teaching of eternal security DEMANDS that one also teach God's divine discipline for those who are disobedient.
I'm always surprised see that those who hold to LOS doctrine keep thinking that OSAS doctrine teaches that one will "get away" with gross sin. All of which is simply untrue.
The exact opposite of what you claim is actually happening in the church.
What does this mean? What have I "claimed" that isn't happening in the church?
That's why so many, like myself, are ringing the alarm bells on this damnable hyper-grace doctrine.
Again, you use the pejorative word "hyper-grace", as if God's grace can be "too much" , or "excessive".
While you may damn the FACT that God "gives MORE grace" per James 4:6, that's on you.
In fact, God's grace is SUFFICIENT. It is apparent to me that you have no idea what that even means. Because all that you've posted indicates that God's grace IS NOT SUFFICIENT for certain believers, or those who cease to believe. How sad.
Ever heard the phrase "His matchless grace"? Does that offend you too?
Nothing can match the grace of God. Apart from God's grace, none of us would be saved.
Yet, LOS doctrine teaches that God's grace is NOT sufficient for those children of God who misbehave.
Therefore, it appears to me that LOS doctrine totally LACKS any concept of God's grace.
It is, therefore, a grace-LESS theology.
Like extending an elbow beyond it's intended range, you can't bend grace to go where it was never intended to go.
So show me where the Scriptures teach where God's grace was never intended to go. Again, your theology is full of assumption, based only on your feelings about the sins of others.
I does not cover the trampling of Jesus' blood in a willful, contemptuous rejection of faith and trust in the blood of Christ.
So, where are the verses that actually teach us that God's grace doesn't cover any of this?
It's a very good thing that God's ways are WAY ABOVE man's ways. If any man has his way, there'd sure be a lot less people who will enter heaven.
Instead of grace teaching the church to say 'no' to ungodliness (Titus 2:12 NASB), as it really is, OSAS says grace teaches us that we can say 'yes' to ungodliness and it's okay because it won't affect your salvation on the Day of Judgment.
This is so untrue as to be a LIE, since I've already explained that OSAS NEVER teaches such nonsense.
It is NEVER "ok" to to say yes to ungodliness because of God's discipline.
But for some very odd reason, LOS doctrine just continues to close its eyes to the truth of divine discipline as it relates to eternal security.
I'd greatly appreciate it if you would at least acknowledge that eternal security DOES condemn sinful behavior and teaches the consequences for it, instead of the LIE that OSAS teaches that there is no consequence for sinful behavior.
.. A story... Walt is a pastor saved spirit fill with the evidence of tongues... He is blessed with a nice church... nice town.. but he has this continuing 'problem' the 'ladies' in the church... he has one affair after another.. IF he dies in the ladies bed where is his eternity.. Case you are wondering yup true story..
