[_ Old Earth _] Evolution is incompatible with the Bible

[Guest]

please show me santa in the bible.

I never said Santa was in the Bible. I asked if you tried really hard, could you convince yourself that Santa was a real person? If you can't then you understand how an atheist can be unconvinced that God is real.

Quath

santa clauss is made to look like a cartoon character,and Creation is
real,and we can see it,touch it,and smell it!
Creation is majestic and to this day the lost and the worldly are confused
by it,and how all of Creation came into being,yet the child of God knows
that a creator made all of Creation. Even our DNA proves design is not
accidental,amen.
The lost may have an agenda of their own for not accepting a creator?
I personally believe they do,not because they don't know there is a God.

 

[Guest]

If you don't want to live right,and you hate
being good,you think being an atheist is the way out,

That is a major stereotype that some Christians seem to believe, but is actually not based on any fact (as is the case with most stereotypes). Atheists are just a group in society like anyone else, there are good and bad, black and white, rich and poor, it doesn't in anyway mean the person is immoral, evil, full of hate or of certain intelligence. Just like being a Christian doesn't mean you can't commit crimes, make mistakes or hurt people.
Personally I have stayed within the law, I don't drink or smoke, don't take recreational drugs, try not to swear, try not to take the Lords name in vain (not because of belief in God, but because I know it could offend), I'm generally what you'd consider a good guy, but I'm a non-believer. I definately don't fit any rebel label, or someone who "hates being good". This is the norm amongst atheists.

:B-fly: This may shock you,but I use to believe that about myself once!
Oh' how blind we are when we cannot see what is right in front of us.
The bible tells us that greed has a great deal to do with why people don't
believe in God. Don't tell me you are not greedy or selfish because even
christians have some greed and selfishness to a point.
Being rebellious doesn't always mean you show it in an outward way.
I can also say I'm not rebellious against atheism,but how many atheists
will buy that? I'm really not,but when you rebel against God,you are a
rebel without a cause in my opinion.

 

[Guest]

[quote="Wertbag That depends on whether you believe the YEC idea, if so then numerous cultures seem to have pre-dated the claims. One of the more obvious being Egypt which appears to have solid history back 7-8000 years with no interruption (guess they just missed the global flood?). There many races, over many countries that we can track the history of passed the magical 6000 year mark of the YEC's and every one of them had completely different religious ideas, with their own creation stories, numerous Gods and all sorts of strange rituals.[/quote]

:D I'm a very content YEC,and very much in love with it.
It makes complete and total sense to me.
If you really want to know the truth,you'll dig much deeper like I
did. I really wanted the truth,and I put in the time and effort to
find it,but blessed is the one who doesn't need eveidence to believe
in God,amen. These christians a much greater than me,amen,& amen.
Take the Bible,look up how we got the bible,and where it came from.
After that take the bible and research history side by side.
Then,look up the beliefs very carefully about other countries and nations
and their religious beliefs.
Pagans have always been the copiers,and they have always been the
theives,and they have always been the larger groups.
Jesus had many witnesses and he still does.
As I have said many times over,if you truly desire the truth,you will
find it!!!

 

[Sophistress]

please show me santa in the bible.

I never said Santa was in the Bible. I asked if you tried really hard, could you convince yourself that Santa was a real person? If you can't then you understand how an atheist can be unconvinced that God is real.

Quath

santa clauss is made to look like a cartoon character,and Creation is
real,and we can see it,touch it,and smell it!
Creation is majestic and to this day the lost and the worldly are confused
by it,and how all of Creation came into being,yet the child of God knows
that a creator made all of Creation. Even our DNA proves design is not
accidental,amen.
The lost may have an agenda of their own for not accepting a creator?
I personally believe they do,not because they don't know there is a God.

So the only explanation for the world and its inhabitants is the Judeo-Christian God simply because a 2000 year old book says so. : : :

 

[Guest]

please show me santa in the bible.

I never said Santa was in the Bible. I asked if you tried really hard, could you convince yourself that Santa was a real person? If you can't then you understand how an atheist can be unconvinced that God is real.

Quath

And if you can, then you realise how gullible the human mind is. When you really want to believe something is true, if you really really force yourself, then eventually it can become "true". But only in your mind.

:wink: So if you know this,then why are you an atheist?

 

[Guest]

So the only explanation for the world and its inhabitants is the Judeo-Christian God simply because a 2000 year old book says so. : : :

:B-fly: You got it! But many of the letters are much more ancient.
Learn about the book,and how different it is compared to all others.
Learn about other nations and countries and what they believe.
Egypt is a good place to start,as it is very obvious they were pagans.

 

[Quath]

santa clauss is made to look like a cartoon character,and Creation is real,and we can see it,touch it,and smell it!
Creation is majestic and to this day the lost and the worldly are confused
by it,and how all of Creation came into being,yet the child of God knows
that a creator made all of Creation. Even our DNA proves design is not
accidental,amen.

So you think touching a rock proves God. That may be great, but the question is can you make yourself believe that Santa Claus is real? What if someone carrying the Book of Santa came to you and said "If you don't believe in Santa Claus the elves will take you away and torture you for all of eternity!"

Would you believe in Santa Claus then? Would you find it funny that people threatened you with elves?

I am trying to help you see that God is no more real to me than Santa Claus. So if you understand your disbelief in Santa, you will understand my disbelief in God.

Quath

 

[Guest]

I am trying to help you see that God is no more real to me than Santa Claus. So if you understand your disbelief in Santa, you will understand my disbelief in God.

Quath

:B-fly: Thats too easy. How could anyone believe in such a fantastic
tale like santa claus and not see all the flaws and all the lies,but your
message does point out how silly it is to believe in the impossible instead
of a mighty God and creator.
Creation is an excellent example of God. Creation has design,seasons,
and predictable changes. Animals are like stuffed animals we give our
children to play with only they are real,and once again God will make them friendly when his son returns to the earth.
How Great to know that creation will love us once again very soon.
Creation and all it's wonder is proof of a Creator who is also an excellent
artist! Everyone should rejoice over The God of Heaven and earth.
How can anyone not believe in God? It makes no good sense at all.
Creation testifies that there is a God,and even the rocks cry out his name!

 

[ThinkerMan]

Creation testifies that there is a God,and even the rocks cry out his name!

I stared at the paperweight on my desk for a good 30 seconds. I even turned down my radio.

Nothing....sorry.

 

[Sophistress]

Creation testifies that there is a God,and even the rocks cry out his name!

I stared at the paperweight on my desk for a good 30 seconds. I even turned down my radio.

Nothing....sorry.

: : :

 

[Guest]

Creation testifies that there is a God,and even the rocks cry out his name!

I stared at the paperweight on my desk for a good 30 seconds. I even turned down my radio.

Nothing....sorry.

8-) Ta',heee,heee,heeee
That was funny!
It was meant to be,right?

 

[Sophistress]

Creation testifies that there is a God,and even the rocks cry out his name!

I stared at the paperweight on my desk for a good 30 seconds. I even turned down my radio.

Nothing....sorry.

8-) Ta',heee,heee,heeee
That was funny!
It was meant to be,right?

I think so. Jeez, aren't us secular beings just so humorous?

 

[Guest]

So you think touching a rock proves God. That may be great, but the question is can you make yourself believe that Santa Claus is real? What if someone carrying the Book of Santa came to you and said "If you don't believe in Santa Claus the elves will take you away and torture you for all of eternity!"

Would you believe in Santa Claus then? Would you find it funny that people threatened you with elves?

I am trying to help you see that God is no more real to me than Santa Claus. So if you understand your disbelief in Santa, you will understand my disbelief in God.

Quath

8-) You think touching a fossil proves evolution,but I say fossils scream
God is Alive! And they declair that YEC is truth to the observer.
I think it depends on the person whether or not they can believe in
characters dressed in red and white costumes with black boots.
It's an individual thing,but I don't believe normal people would who
truly are free thinkers. God sets us free,and when he calls you,you
know it,and you cannot doubt,amen.
I cannot understand you disbelief in God,except that it is common
among those who wish God did not exist because of certain things
in their lives that they don't want to let go of.
But don't worry,God chooses you,you don't choose him.
Yes,I believe the Rocks cry out and they testify of God!

 

[Asimov]

You think touching a fossil proves evolution

Um...touching a fossil doesn't prove evolution....collecting fossils in different strata, studying them, performing tests helps add evidence to evolution.

,but I say fossils scream
God is Alive!

considering evolution is agnostic, anyone could come by the conclusion that a God started it all. Evolution is still true whether or not

And they declair that YEC is truth to the observer.

Imaginary voices screaming at you doesn't prove anything, blue

I think it depends on the person whether or not they can believe in
characters dressed in red and white costumes with black boots.

Or some imaginary father figure taking care of the human race?

I cannot understand you disbelief in God,except that it is common
among those who wish God did not exist because of certain things
in their lives that they don't want to let go of.

You just proved that you know nothing about atheism

But don't worry,God chooses you,you don't choose him.
Yes,I believe the Rocks cry out and they testify of God!

once again, this has nothing to do with evolution

 

[Guest]

Creation testifies that there is a God,and even the rocks cry out his name!

I stared at the paperweight on my desk for a good 30 seconds. I even turned down my radio.

Nothing....sorry.

8-) Ta',heee,heee,heeee
That was funny!
It was meant to be,right?

I think so. Jeez, aren't us secular beings just so humorous?

:P Truthfully? Yes,you are!

 

[Guest]

[quote="The Tuatha'anonce again, this has nothing to do with evolution[/quote]

:wink: Yep',you are right,because evolution cannot be proven and it's
also very religious.
Fossils prove that the earth is not very old,and so do tree's!

 

[ThinkerMan]

Fossils prove that the earth is not very old,and so do tree's!

Blue, please explain how trees prove the earth's youth.

No random links please, just a short explanation of your understanding of trees-to-earth youth analysis.

 

[Wertbag]

Yep',you are right,because evolution cannot be proven and it's
also very religious.
Fossils prove that the earth is not very old,and so do tree's!

Argh, straight back to the same old incorrect statements. Evolution is not religious in anyway what so ever, it in no way discusses any supernatural or non-physical entities.
And fossils show an ancient planet not a 6000 year old one, and I dread to ask what you mean by trees show the planet is not very old. I can see a few possibilities but I'm not sure which way you are thinking. Remember we don't see ancient trees because as a living object they can die like anything else. Whether by pest, climate change, natural disaster or disease most trees will eventually die even without mans distructive influence.

 

[Guest]

Fossils prove that the earth is not very old,and so do tree's!

Blue, please explain how trees prove the earth's youth.

No random links please, just a short explanation of your understanding of trees-to-earth youth analysis.

:B-fly: Tree's show their age in how many rings they have.
There are tree's that can live hundreds of years,but none that
live for billions.
Also,there are burning Bushes in Israel that ignite by themselves
when the sun is too hot on them,in case you desired to know.
Also,check out the fish that love to swallow shiny objects near
where the disciple of Jesus Christ collected the coins to pay the
taxes. It's all good.

 

[Guest]

Yep',you are right,because evolution cannot be proven and it's
also very religious.
Fossils prove that the earth is not very old,and so do tree's!

Argh, straight back to the same old incorrect statements. Evolution is not religious in anyway what so ever, it in no way discusses any supernatural or non-physical entities.
And fossils show an ancient planet not a 6000 year old one, and I dread to ask what you mean by trees show the planet is not very old. I can see a few possibilities but I'm not sure which way you are thinking. Remember we don't see ancient trees because as a living object they can die like anything else. Whether by pest, climate change, natural disaster or disease most trees will eventually die even without mans distructive influence.

:angel: http://evolution-facts.org/default.htm
http://www.creationscience.com/
http://lionofjudah.tribulationforces.co ... ience.html
http://www.proving-it.com/Index.html

A great book I just ordered and am now reading that exposes
evolution as an ancient religious practice is called: "The Long War
Against God" by Henry Morris
read it,very interesting material indeed,and he researched this very
well,amen.
Fossils prove only one thing next to God and that would be "GLOBAL-
FLOOD"