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AirDancer said:
You never know but that you might be spot on with that possibility.

If it turns out that you are spot on, then you're going to have to agree to take my place as a moderator........I would be amongst the headless.

It's one thing to not have a mind .... it's quite another to not have a head.
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Balderdash! No 'like' button.

Let's improvise...
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(yes, I stole it from Google)
 
You all don't know this, but I was once a test subject for electronic chip implanting.
I swallowed mine and the guys tracking me back at the lab wondered why I'd never left the bathroom.
 
This is a safe environment here on the forum with all our buddies. It's kinda nice. People aren't worried. People aren't afraid. On the other hand, no one was suggesting that anyone be worried or afraid, but just to look at where it's all leading from a calm, rational, inevitable point of view.

People are confident and resolute! You'll have to chop my head off! But, no. No one will need to chop your head off. If you want to buy your food or pay the bills or whatever, you will take the microchip implant. Your own tummy will make the decision for you.

I'm sure people here have been hungry before. You know what it feels to to go a day, or two or maybe even three or more without eating? It doesn't feel particularly nice. Fasting can be good or bad. If it's done in faith, for the right reasons, it can lead to hungering and thirsting, a certain kind of desperation after righteousness. But if it's done for other reasons or done to you, it leads to a very different kind of desperation. And when people are pushed into that kind of desperation, they can make all kinds of irrational leaps of logic and decision making they would not have when they were full and content. Like Peter they say with conviction, "Lord, I will die with you", but when the crunch comes...

Consider this comment from page 2 as an example of what I'm describing:

AirDancer said:
The powers-that-be with the financial chips won't be concerned about the homeless.
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AirDancer has suggested that he (sorry, I think you are a he but correct me if I'm wrong) would choose to be beheaded before taking a microchip implant, implying that he will not participate in what will be the only available means of buying and selling. And yet, he also talks about "the homeless", (during the time of mandatory microchip implants since he clarifies the "powers-that-be" will not bother with the homeless), from the perspective of one who is not homeless but looking at their plight from some kind of higher vantage point.

If you refuse to take the chip, you will be "the homeless" and the "powers-that-be" will not bother to chop your head off, but for some reason that concept doesn't get through in these various responses. I believe this is an indication of what I've been seeing as a fairly common laissez-faire position on the inevitability of microchip implants.

People still have this idea that all they need to do is hide some cash under a rock somewhere, or refuse to believe microchip implants are coming, or talk about all the other people who will suffer while somehow inadvertently, yet conveniently, leaving ourselves out of that group, or content ourselves with brave images of beheading for righteousness rather than confront the reality of simple, homeless hunger for righteousness sake.

Head chopping isn't for those who hide their cash under rocks. Head chopping will be reserved for those foolish enough to challenge the microchip implants in any noticeable way.
 
Jesse said:
In some cases we already are charged to use our own money. There are ATMs that charge me if it's not my bank. There are some stores here that if you use a CC, they will charge you a small fee, those are mostly gas stations.
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I found the same thing and this is part of what I was referring to in my other post. I did a bunch of research into what I was paying to use my own money a while back. When you really search out all these charges, most of which are pretty well hidden, the amount you pay is staggering! Even when they don't charge you a visible fee to use your card, they still charge you because the amount they have to pay is simply added onto the price of the things you buy. The most effective way to avoid as much of that as possible is to use cash. You can't avoid it all, but you can at least minimize it.
 
john darling said:
AirDancer has suggested that he (sorry, I think you are a he but correct me if I'm wrong) would choose to be beheaded before taking a microchip implant, implying that he will not participate in what will be the only available means of buying and selling. And yet, he also talks about "the homeless", (during the time of mandatory microchip implants since he clarifies the "powers-that-be" will not bother with the homeless), from the perspective of one who is not homeless but looking at their plight from some kind of higher vantage point.

If you refuse to take the chip, you will be "the homeless" and the "powers-that-be" will not bother to chop your head off, but for some reason that concept doesn't get through in these various responses. I believe this is an indication of what I've been seeing as a fairly common laissez-faire position on the inevitability of microchip implants.

People still have this idea that all they need to do is hide some cash under a rock somewhere, or refuse to believe microchip implants are coming, or talk about all the other people who will suffer while somehow inadvertently, yet conveniently, leaving ourselves out of that group, or content ourselves with brave images of beheading for righteousness rather than confront the reality of simple, homeless hunger for righteousness sake.

Head chopping isn't for those who hide their cash under rocks. Head chopping will be reserved for those foolish enough to challenge the microchip implants in any noticeable way.
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There are several reasons, john darling, why I would refuse a microchip implant. One reason is I'm allergic to all metals. This fact was learned the rough way, much to the surprised dismay of the surgeon who had to replace the various plates during the healing process.

Another reason is quite simple: I am not in favor of microchips in humans. My children were not chipped when younger, although it was highly encouraged in case of kidnappings, etc. Microchips - and their encoding - can be manipulated. The information linked to a particular chip can be manipulated. Why should I trust the chips to be 100% secure, 24/7? My bank cannot even guarantee that of my debit card, something that has been replaced on a few occasions due to ID theft at/from processing centers.

If the only way to buy (or sell, for that matter) is via a microchip, then it would mean my country has been taken by a dictator, whose goal is to eliminate those he (or she) cannot control. I'm enough of a maverick to be able to survive, at least for some time, while living under the radar. I am not alone. There would be opposition to any mandated microchip as the sole means of purchasing anything.

Also, it can be dangerous to make assumptions about others when one does not know those people. Have I been homeless? Have I lived on very little food over long periods of time? No one here has any idea whether I have or haven't. It simply doesn't matter. What does matter is I'm prepared and my adult offspring are prepared daily, in the event it happens to be our last day. Our faith in our Lord has prepared us.
 
AirDancer said:
There are several reasons, john darling, why I would refuse a microchip implant. One reason is I'm allergic to all metals. This fact was learned the rough way, much to the surprised dismay of the surgeon who had to replace the various plates during the healing process.

Another reason is quite simple: I am not in favor of microchips in humans. My children were not chipped when younger, although it was highly encouraged in case of kidnappings, etc. Microchips - and their encoding - can be manipulated. The information linked to a particular chip can be manipulated. Why should I trust the chips to be 100% secure, 24/7? My bank cannot even guarantee that of my debit card, something that has been replaced on a few occasions due to ID theft at/from processing centers.

If the only way to buy (or sell, for that matter) is via a microchip, then it would mean my country has been taken by a dictator, whose goal is to eliminate those he (or she) cannot control. I'm enough of a maverick to be able to survive, at least for some time, while living under the radar. I am not alone. There would be opposition to any mandated microchip as the sole means of purchasing anything.

Also, it can be dangerous to make assumptions about others when one does not know those people. Have I been homeless? Have I lived on very little food over long periods of time? No one here has any idea whether I have or haven't. It simply doesn't matter. What does matter is I'm prepared and my adult offspring are prepared daily, in the event it happens to be our last day. Our faith in our Lord has prepared us.
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It was encouraged for your children to be chipped? What country do you reside in?

The problem I have with chipping for kidnappings is, would they be able to locate your child by satellite or something??? Otherwise, it'd probably be a dead body they were using the chip to identify - just like fingerprints.
 
Obadiah said:
I found the same thing and this is part of what I was referring to in my other post. I did a bunch of research into what I was paying to use my own money a while back. When you really search out all these charges, most of which are pretty well hidden, the amount you pay is staggering! Even when they don't charge you a visible fee to use your card, they still charge you because the amount they have to pay is simply added onto the price of the things you buy. The most effective way to avoid as much of that as possible is to use cash. You can't avoid it all, but you can at least minimize it.
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I do know that when you buy gas with your debit card, they pull out way more money than they need, and you might not get it put back into your account the same day.
I usually use my debit card and then a cashier's check to pay for school, I will have to pay more attention.
 
Jesse said:
It was encouraged for your children to be chipped? What country do you reside in?

The problem I have with chipping for kidnappings is, would they be able to locate your child by satellite or something??? Otherwise, it'd probably be a dead body they were using the chip to identify - just like fingerprints.
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I live in the US. It was recommended that the kids be fingerprinted, have photo IDs and be microchipped. The chips were more for identification in later years, in case of kidnappings without death involved.
 
AirDancer said:
I live in the US. It was recommended that the kids be fingerprinted, have photo IDs and be microchipped. The chips were more for identification in later years, in case of kidnappings without death involved.
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Whoa! How old are your kids? I don't think my parents were even asked about chipping myself and siblings.
 
I believe the norm is that gas stations put $100 on hold on your card even if you only buy $10 worth of gas, and they can keep it on hold for up to three days. So you have say &150 in your account, you buy your $10 worth of gas and drive to the store to buy $100 worth of groceries and get a nasty surprise at the cash register when they deny your card!
 
Obadiah said:
I believe the norm is that gas stations put $100 on hold on your card even if you only buy $10 worth of gas, and they can keep it on hold for up to three days. So you have say &150 in your account, you buy your $10 worth of gas and drive to the store to buy $100 worth of groceries and get a nasty surprise at the cash register when they deny your card!
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That'd be irritating..lol
What if a person didn't even have that much in their account when they go to buy gas? They wouldn't let you use it?
 
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