Pardon my intrusion on tis discussion Elijah 674, but when I read your this post in response to Saved by grace, it seems to me that you agree with him but do not realize it.I have not found any posting up your remark here..
'The only ones that can do that are those who have been born of the Spirit, who have been born out of that incorruptible seed. Those of you therefore that teach that the unregenerate man, one merely born by natural birth in the flesh, that they can please God and obey the command to believe on Christ and be saved Acts 16:31, you are liars and no truth is in you. You contradict the Truth !'
Hey, me again. It is your zillion of posts that say that the carnal man controls the born again man. Rather than the Born Again man controling the carnal body! And how so?? See the.. Re: Freewill religion is the Man of Sin !
And it is Christ's WORD in Phil. 4:13 + His GRACE as in 2 Cor. 12:9 that tell who [[ALL LIARS ARE]] and then the ones who are not!
And satan's lies are a heavy weight to tot around for these poor saps who recrucify Christ afresh and put Him to an OPEN shame! Heb. 6:6 And GOD tell's what their problem is in James 2:10. Yet it is only one of His Required Commandments that is HATED we find! And Christ tell's who it is that Loves Him! John 15:10 + the others!!
1 John 2
[3] And hereby we do know that we (Love) know him, if we keep his commandments.
[4] He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
And that is just one of the many James 2:10's false stuff that baptist teach!
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I have not found any posting up your remark here..
'The only ones that can do that are those who have been born of the Spirit, who have been born out of that incorruptible seed. Those of you therefore that teach that the unregenerate man, one merely born by natural birth in the flesh, that they can please God and obey the command to believe on Christ and be saved Acts 16:31, you are liars and no truth is in you. You contradict the Truth !'
Hey, me again. It is your zillion of posts that say that the carnal man controls the born again man. Rather than the Born Again man controling the carnal body! And how so?? See the.. Re: Freewill religion is the Man of Sin !
And it is Christ's WORD in Phil. 4:13 + His GRACE as in 2 Cor. 12:9 that tell who [[ALL LIARS ARE]] and then the ones who are not!
And satan's lies are a heavy weight to tot around for these poor saps who recrucify Christ afresh and put Him to an OPEN shame! Heb. 6:6 And GOD tell's what their problem is in James 2:10. Yet it is only one of His Required Commandments that is HATED we find! And Christ tell's who it is that Loves Him! John 15:10 + the others!!
1 John 2
[3] And hereby we do know that we (Love) know him, if we keep his commandments.
[4] He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
And that is just one of the many James 2:10's false stuff that baptist teach!
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Need more?? OSAS is anti/Christ! Breaking of His Heb. 13:20 [CONDITIONAL] Covenant. And.. burning in Hell ETERNALLY is a [LIE] period, which is found breaking His Commandments!
+? an immortal man??, either saved or lost in hell.. along with immortal maggots is beyond Peters 2 Peter 2:19-22 'vomit' Need more?? sun sacredness is thumbing ones 'nose' even to 'me' Inspiration say's! Eze. 8:17.
And in bottom/line James documented that by breaking only [one] of the ten commandments, they all have been seen openly giving the satanic heave/hoe to the Godheads Eternal law! James 2:10
And John?? Rev. 17:1-5 defines who is their mother as 'i'see it.
--Elijah
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No real Love for Christ !
Those who teach that Salvation is a result of their act of faith, have no real love for Christ for saving their soul, for if they had not themselves appropriated Salvation by their act of faith or freewill, then they would have remained lost, this kind of teaching produces self love, conceit, and vanity , Lovers of themselves 2 Tim 3:2
For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
For the efficacy of the Saviour's Death was not in and of itself that saved them, but their appropriating act of the benefits was their Salvation !
Those who teach that Salvation is a result of their act of faith, have no real love for Christ for saving their soul, for if they had not themselves appropriated Salvation by their act of faith or freewill, then they would have remained lost, this kind of teaching produces self love, conceit, and vanity , Lovers of themselves 2 Tim 3:2
For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
For the efficacy of the Saviour's Death was not in and of itself that saved them, but their appropriating act of the benefits was their Salvation !
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Rom 4:25
Those who are teaching a false Gospel, deny that all for whom Christ died, that even before they believe, are Justified before God, evidenced by by His Resurrection Rom 4:25
25Who was delivered for[because of] our offences, and was raised again for[because of] our justification.
Folks, this is a very serious sin against the accomplishment of Christ's Death on behalf of those He died for [1 Cor 15:3] before God the Father !
Those who are teaching a false Gospel, deny that all for whom Christ died, that even before they believe, are Justified before God, evidenced by by His Resurrection Rom 4:25
25Who was delivered for[because of] our offences, and was raised again for[because of] our justification.
Folks, this is a very serious sin against the accomplishment of Christ's Death on behalf of those He died for [1 Cor 15:3] before God the Father !
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Those who are teaching that Christ death was for all men without exception, and many of them shall and have died in their sins, eternally separated from God, these are preaching a defective Cross of Christ. They are saying in essence, the Christ work failed to redeem from death those He died for, and that the Cross of Christ failed to reconcile them completely back to God ! This is a extremely serious claim against Christ's Work ! These false teachers say that Christ made only a one sided reconciliation [if that] that God was reconciled to man, but it left man unreconciled to God, unless man does something, but this is a grievous error, and not biblical at all. The Reconciliation that Christ effects by His Cross is in fact complete and full, nothing lacking. For reconciliation entails bringing together in harmony of Two separated parties. Its defined:
To become friendly with (someone) after estrangement or to re-establish friendly relations between (two or more people)
To make (two apparently conflicting things) compatible or consistent with each other
So therefore, if Christ's Cross Work did not both reconcile God to Men and Men to God in Fellowship, His Cross Work failed. Scripture teaches through Paul when writing to believers that Christ reconciled US to God by His Cross 2 Cor 5:18
And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us [The Church] to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;
Col 1:21
And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled
This scripture clearly ascribes conversion work to the Cross of Christ. Christ, by way of His Spirit, premised on His Cross Work, reconciles those who were enemies by nature, alienated from God experimentally, enemies in their minds, yet now has He reconciled. That is Faith and Repentance , those fruits that evidence one returning to God, are fruits of Christ's Death bringing back[reconciling] one into a right relationship and fellowship with God ! Nothing Illustrates this Blessed Truth more than the point made by the Lost Son that came to himself and returned to his Father Lk 15:17-32, yet the Father had been reconciled to the Son all the Time !
So, if every single sinner that Christ died for does not end up like the Lost Son, then Christ's Work on the Cross of reconciling those He died for back to God, has failed ! And many false teachers teach that, because of those who die in their sins, who simply were not objects of Christ's Love and Death !
To become friendly with (someone) after estrangement or to re-establish friendly relations between (two or more people)
To make (two apparently conflicting things) compatible or consistent with each other
So therefore, if Christ's Cross Work did not both reconcile God to Men and Men to God in Fellowship, His Cross Work failed. Scripture teaches through Paul when writing to believers that Christ reconciled US to God by His Cross 2 Cor 5:18
And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us [The Church] to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;
Col 1:21
And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled
This scripture clearly ascribes conversion work to the Cross of Christ. Christ, by way of His Spirit, premised on His Cross Work, reconciles those who were enemies by nature, alienated from God experimentally, enemies in their minds, yet now has He reconciled. That is Faith and Repentance , those fruits that evidence one returning to God, are fruits of Christ's Death bringing back[reconciling] one into a right relationship and fellowship with God ! Nothing Illustrates this Blessed Truth more than the point made by the Lost Son that came to himself and returned to his Father Lk 15:17-32, yet the Father had been reconciled to the Son all the Time !
So, if every single sinner that Christ died for does not end up like the Lost Son, then Christ's Work on the Cross of reconciling those He died for back to God, has failed ! And many false teachers teach that, because of those who die in their sins, who simply were not objects of Christ's Love and Death !
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Neonomianism !
Most in the religious world believe a false gospel, a very deceptive false gospel which is a derived from what is called Neonomianism !
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neonomianism
What basically is meant is the the Gospel is but a much milder law that men must adhere to in order of being saved or Justified before God; this is just as evil as teaching to be Justified by the Law Rom 3:20
Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin !
The word deeds here is the same word ergon for work or works, and the word law nomos means:
anything established, anything received by usage, a custom, a law, a command
a) of any law whatsoever
1) a law or rule producing a state approved of God
a) by the observance of which is approved of God
2) a precept or injunction
3) the rule of action prescribed by reason
Now how many really and sincerely believe that if they obey the command to believe on Jesus Christ that it produces them into a state of approval of God ? 99.99 % of professing Christianity believes this or that if they repent it brings them into this state of approval before God. In other words God now Judges them favorably because of what they did !
And the scripture says, by the deeds of the law shall no flesh be justified before God. Flesh here merely means anyone born of the flesh as Jesus indicates here Jn 3:6
That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
Flesh is anyone who has not been born again of the Spirit. And so these neonomians, most deny New Birth before Faith, they are therefore advocating Justification before God by the deeds of the flesh ! To be honest with you, all who believe this are deceived and reject Salvation by Grace through Faith, not of works, lest any man should boast !
Most in the religious world believe a false gospel, a very deceptive false gospel which is a derived from what is called Neonomianism !
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neonomianism
What basically is meant is the the Gospel is but a much milder law that men must adhere to in order of being saved or Justified before God; this is just as evil as teaching to be Justified by the Law Rom 3:20
Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin !
The word deeds here is the same word ergon for work or works, and the word law nomos means:
anything established, anything received by usage, a custom, a law, a command
a) of any law whatsoever
1) a law or rule producing a state approved of God
a) by the observance of which is approved of God
2) a precept or injunction
3) the rule of action prescribed by reason
Now how many really and sincerely believe that if they obey the command to believe on Jesus Christ that it produces them into a state of approval of God ? 99.99 % of professing Christianity believes this or that if they repent it brings them into this state of approval before God. In other words God now Judges them favorably because of what they did !
And the scripture says, by the deeds of the law shall no flesh be justified before God. Flesh here merely means anyone born of the flesh as Jesus indicates here Jn 3:6
That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
Flesh is anyone who has not been born again of the Spirit. And so these neonomians, most deny New Birth before Faith, they are therefore advocating Justification before God by the deeds of the flesh ! To be honest with you, all who believe this are deceived and reject Salvation by Grace through Faith, not of works, lest any man should boast !
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By the deeds of the Law, No man Justified !
Rom 3:20
Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
This proud man cannot accept, cannot believe ! What is Paul saying here ? This is not just the jewish law of moses, the Decalogue, the Ten Commandments, it includes all preceptives and conditions and proposals,or offers made to men ! Making terms , that men must do this or that in order of the obtaining of everlasting Life all fall under, doing the deeds of the law to obtain salvation, and all who preach this, which are millions, are servants of the devil !
Folks man in a fallen condition are incapable of fulfilling any commands of God, and Laws of God, obeying any precepts of God per Rom 8:7-8
7Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
And yet the antichrist ministers present a Gospel format that that gives men the impression they can obey a command of God and obtain Life Everlasting ! But alas, how many are there in religion today believe that while in the flesh, an unregenerate, that they pleased God by their act of Faith Heb 11:6
6But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
These rebels believe and oppose the very Truth of Rom 8:8 and assert with all the venom of the devil, that they performed this pleasing act of Faith while in the flesh or unregenerate ! Nor being born again, folks nothing but a child of hell will make such claims ! Matt 23:15
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
They are asserting against all Light of scripture, that they are being justified by the deeds of the law in God's sight !
Rom 3:20
Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
This proud man cannot accept, cannot believe ! What is Paul saying here ? This is not just the jewish law of moses, the Decalogue, the Ten Commandments, it includes all preceptives and conditions and proposals,or offers made to men ! Making terms , that men must do this or that in order of the obtaining of everlasting Life all fall under, doing the deeds of the law to obtain salvation, and all who preach this, which are millions, are servants of the devil !
Folks man in a fallen condition are incapable of fulfilling any commands of God, and Laws of God, obeying any precepts of God per Rom 8:7-8
7Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
And yet the antichrist ministers present a Gospel format that that gives men the impression they can obey a command of God and obtain Life Everlasting ! But alas, how many are there in religion today believe that while in the flesh, an unregenerate, that they pleased God by their act of Faith Heb 11:6
6But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
These rebels believe and oppose the very Truth of Rom 8:8 and assert with all the venom of the devil, that they performed this pleasing act of Faith while in the flesh or unregenerate ! Nor being born again, folks nothing but a child of hell will make such claims ! Matt 23:15
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
They are asserting against all Light of scripture, that they are being justified by the deeds of the law in God's sight !
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Faith is not of ourselves !
Eph 2:8-9
8For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9Not of works, lest any man should boast.
You can tell the antichrist followers because they will blatantly oppose the scripture with highhandedness !
They in spite of the clear assertions of the Word of God, that Faith, along with being saved,is not of ourselves, but is the Gift of God, not of works [conditions] lest any man has reason to boast; And yet the antichrist followers say faith is of themselves, and because they exercise it, believe, they get saved, relegating Salvation by works , which was the very thing Paul was teaching against, its unbelievable, for they are very presumptuous ! Folks Faith cannot come from the flesh of man,because it pleases God, and scripture states this Rom 8:7-8
7Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
And yet they will oppose this clear declaration of scripture !
Eph 2:8-9
8For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9Not of works, lest any man should boast.
You can tell the antichrist followers because they will blatantly oppose the scripture with highhandedness !
They in spite of the clear assertions of the Word of God, that Faith, along with being saved,is not of ourselves, but is the Gift of God, not of works [conditions] lest any man has reason to boast; And yet the antichrist followers say faith is of themselves, and because they exercise it, believe, they get saved, relegating Salvation by works , which was the very thing Paul was teaching against, its unbelievable, for they are very presumptuous ! Folks Faith cannot come from the flesh of man,because it pleases God, and scripture states this Rom 8:7-8
7Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
And yet they will oppose this clear declaration of scripture !
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The Freewill Invitation system is a False Gospel
How False preachers pervert the scriptures is done most frequently in what is called the invitations to Salvation to all without exception. Some of the most common, we will show that these invites are actually efficacious calls of Grace, to most unworthy Elect sinners, and not to the spiritually dead in trespasses and sins ! Now remember, these invites are the words of God Speaking, the God Man, and they are spirit and they are Life Jn 6:63
63It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
Now ponder on this for a moment is Christ saying that His words are Spiritual ? He says they are spirit ! They are quickening and they give Life !
Now Jesus prefaced this statement with the fact of the Spirit must give Life or quicken, and the words He is speaking are both spirit and Life, but Life must first be given by the Spirit to receive His Spiritual and Living Words, This also confirms that the Gospel is thew Word of Life
Phil 2:16
16Holding forth the word of life; that I may rejoice in the day of Christ, that I have not run in vain, neither laboured in vain.
And Peter states later this of Christ's words Jn 6:68
68Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.
The words of Life, the Gospel, is spiritual, and cannot be received or comprehended by the natural man 1 Cor 2:14
14But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
Which Christ's Words are, for they are Spirit Jn 6:63 !
Now though the Gospel Call can be legitimately an Invite, it is none the less a Divine Command or Imperative, an invite founded upon a Divine Authoritative Command ! We will examine next Matt 11:28 to substantiate this claim Matt 11:28
28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
How False preachers pervert the scriptures is done most frequently in what is called the invitations to Salvation to all without exception. Some of the most common, we will show that these invites are actually efficacious calls of Grace, to most unworthy Elect sinners, and not to the spiritually dead in trespasses and sins ! Now remember, these invites are the words of God Speaking, the God Man, and they are spirit and they are Life Jn 6:63
63It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
Now ponder on this for a moment is Christ saying that His words are Spiritual ? He says they are spirit ! They are quickening and they give Life !
Now Jesus prefaced this statement with the fact of the Spirit must give Life or quicken, and the words He is speaking are both spirit and Life, but Life must first be given by the Spirit to receive His Spiritual and Living Words, This also confirms that the Gospel is thew Word of Life
Phil 2:16
16Holding forth the word of life; that I may rejoice in the day of Christ, that I have not run in vain, neither laboured in vain.
And Peter states later this of Christ's words Jn 6:68
68Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.
The words of Life, the Gospel, is spiritual, and cannot be received or comprehended by the natural man 1 Cor 2:14
14But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
Which Christ's Words are, for they are Spirit Jn 6:63 !
Now though the Gospel Call can be legitimately an Invite, it is none the less a Divine Command or Imperative, an invite founded upon a Divine Authoritative Command ! We will examine next Matt 11:28 to substantiate this claim Matt 11:28
28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
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The Freewill Invitation system is a False Gospel
Matt 11:28
28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
First notice here, as previously stated that this what the antichrist ministers and followers call a offer invitation for all without exception, is really a command a imperative. The greek word for come here is a strong adverb deute and means:
come hither, come here, come
interjection, come!, come now!
And it is a imperative which means:
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The imperative mood corresponds to the English imperative, and expresses a command to the hearer to perform a certain action by the order and authority of the one commanding. Thus, Jesus' phrase, "Repent ye, and believe the gospel" (Mk.1:15) is not at all an "invitation," but an absolute command requiring full obedience on the part of all hearers.
This word come is the same word Jesus spoke when He called Peter and his brother Andrew Matt 4:18
18And Jesus, walking by the sea of Galilee, saw two brethren, Simon called Peter, and Andrew his brother, casting a net into the sea: for they were fishers.
19And he saith unto them, Follow me, and I will make you fishers of men.
20And they straightway left their nets, and followed him.
Vs 20 shows us the result of Jesus telling them to follow me or come !
Mark has the account reading like this Mark 1:17
17And Jesus said unto them, Come ye after me, and I will make you to become fishers of men.
So folks, this dispels of the false notion that the antichrist followers put upon this verse of scripture, its not a general invite , but a attracting, a bringing ! Remember when Jesus said of His Other Sheep, He said Jn 10:16
16And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
That word bring is ago and means:
to move, impel: of forces and influences on the mind
Those in Matt 11:28 were being brought to believe in and follow after Christ, by His command of come unto me !
Matt 11:28
28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
First notice here, as previously stated that this what the antichrist ministers and followers call a offer invitation for all without exception, is really a command a imperative. The greek word for come here is a strong adverb deute and means:
come hither, come here, come
interjection, come!, come now!
And it is a imperative which means:
Quote:
The imperative mood corresponds to the English imperative, and expresses a command to the hearer to perform a certain action by the order and authority of the one commanding. Thus, Jesus' phrase, "Repent ye, and believe the gospel" (Mk.1:15) is not at all an "invitation," but an absolute command requiring full obedience on the part of all hearers.
This word come is the same word Jesus spoke when He called Peter and his brother Andrew Matt 4:18
18And Jesus, walking by the sea of Galilee, saw two brethren, Simon called Peter, and Andrew his brother, casting a net into the sea: for they were fishers.
19And he saith unto them, Follow me, and I will make you fishers of men.
20And they straightway left their nets, and followed him.
Vs 20 shows us the result of Jesus telling them to follow me or come !
Mark has the account reading like this Mark 1:17
17And Jesus said unto them, Come ye after me, and I will make you to become fishers of men.
So folks, this dispels of the false notion that the antichrist followers put upon this verse of scripture, its not a general invite , but a attracting, a bringing ! Remember when Jesus said of His Other Sheep, He said Jn 10:16
16And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
That word bring is ago and means:
to move, impel: of forces and influences on the mind
Those in Matt 11:28 were being brought to believe in and follow after Christ, by His command of come unto me !
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The Freewill Invitation system is a False Gospel
We have Looked at the popular phrase of the antichrist followers Matt 11:28 and have found thus far to the honest reader that Jesus here is not inviting all without exception, but is actually issuing out an imperative, a command ! Next, Jesus command is not to all without exception here, but to a definite group of people with specific characteristics notice Matt 11:28
28Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
You see that ? Jesus specifically is speaking to those that are labouring and are heavy laden ! The word labour here in the greek is in the present tense, they were actually in a continual state of labouring , the labouring of the guilt of experimental sinfulness in their minds, and Jesus says that they are heavy laden, sin is a burden to them. It is a matter of concern of concern or care for them Ps 55:22
22 Cast thy burden upon the LORD, and he shall sustain thee: he shall never suffer the righteous to be moved.
1 Pet 5:7
7 Casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you.
This should let us know that these in Matt 11:28 Jesus was speaking directly to are God's Spiritually born people convinced of their sinfulness and hopelessness. Folks for a man or a woman to come to that realization is a gift of God. It is a burden or Gift that God gives all His people to prepare them for the Gospel of Jesus Christ. In fact the word burden in Ps 55:22 is the hebrew word yĕhab and means:
burden, lot (that which is given)
This burden is given by lot to all whom Christ died for their sins ! Its called a gift . Its a great blessing from God when sin is our burden ! Thats why Jesus says Matt 5:3-4
3Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
4Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.
Thats why it is false teaching when false teachers say that God offers one salvation as a gift, but people refuse it because they did not want it. All that is foolish talk, all for whom Salvation is intended for, God makes them quite sensible of their need for it, and they desire it !
God through Christ will sustain His sin burden people all the days of their life. In Matt 11:28 the word heavy laden is in the perfect tense ! God;s People while on this Earth will always have sin as a burden, its been given, it aids God's people in keeping their eye on Christ's Imputed Righteousness, and dependent of God's Mercy and Grace. Have you notice that the epistles always begin or end with the writer wishing his readers Mercy and Grace ? Notice:
1 Tim 1:2
Unto Timothy, my own son in the faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God our Father and Jesus Christ our Lord. 2 Tim 1:2
To Timothy, my dearly beloved son: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God the Father and Christ Jesus our Lord.
Why did Paul wish Mercy from God to Timothy a Child of Faith ?
Titus 1:4
To Titus, mine own son after the common faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ our Saviour.
Heb 4:16
Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.
Were not these believers the writer was writing to ? Why would they have a need for mercy ?
2 Jn 1:3
Grace be with you, mercy, and peace, from God the Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, in truth and love.
I made this point because, many are deceived into thinking that a believer does not sin after conversion. Folks Matt 11:28 contradicts that delusion, for the burden of sin in a True believer will remain with them all their days of this pilgrimage, while in the flesh !
Finally, the call in Matt 11:28 is directed to a specific character of people, it is Authoritative in that it also enables, to bring about the intended results, Rest !
If any teach otherwise, that it is a call to all without exception, they are liars !
We have Looked at the popular phrase of the antichrist followers Matt 11:28 and have found thus far to the honest reader that Jesus here is not inviting all without exception, but is actually issuing out an imperative, a command ! Next, Jesus command is not to all without exception here, but to a definite group of people with specific characteristics notice Matt 11:28
28Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
You see that ? Jesus specifically is speaking to those that are labouring and are heavy laden ! The word labour here in the greek is in the present tense, they were actually in a continual state of labouring , the labouring of the guilt of experimental sinfulness in their minds, and Jesus says that they are heavy laden, sin is a burden to them. It is a matter of concern of concern or care for them Ps 55:22
22 Cast thy burden upon the LORD, and he shall sustain thee: he shall never suffer the righteous to be moved.
1 Pet 5:7
7 Casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you.
This should let us know that these in Matt 11:28 Jesus was speaking directly to are God's Spiritually born people convinced of their sinfulness and hopelessness. Folks for a man or a woman to come to that realization is a gift of God. It is a burden or Gift that God gives all His people to prepare them for the Gospel of Jesus Christ. In fact the word burden in Ps 55:22 is the hebrew word yĕhab and means:
burden, lot (that which is given)
This burden is given by lot to all whom Christ died for their sins ! Its called a gift . Its a great blessing from God when sin is our burden ! Thats why Jesus says Matt 5:3-4
3Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
4Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.
Thats why it is false teaching when false teachers say that God offers one salvation as a gift, but people refuse it because they did not want it. All that is foolish talk, all for whom Salvation is intended for, God makes them quite sensible of their need for it, and they desire it !
God through Christ will sustain His sin burden people all the days of their life. In Matt 11:28 the word heavy laden is in the perfect tense ! God;s People while on this Earth will always have sin as a burden, its been given, it aids God's people in keeping their eye on Christ's Imputed Righteousness, and dependent of God's Mercy and Grace. Have you notice that the epistles always begin or end with the writer wishing his readers Mercy and Grace ? Notice:
1 Tim 1:2
Unto Timothy, my own son in the faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God our Father and Jesus Christ our Lord. 2 Tim 1:2
To Timothy, my dearly beloved son: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God the Father and Christ Jesus our Lord.
Why did Paul wish Mercy from God to Timothy a Child of Faith ?
Titus 1:4
To Titus, mine own son after the common faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ our Saviour.
Heb 4:16
Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.
Were not these believers the writer was writing to ? Why would they have a need for mercy ?
2 Jn 1:3
Grace be with you, mercy, and peace, from God the Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, in truth and love.
I made this point because, many are deceived into thinking that a believer does not sin after conversion. Folks Matt 11:28 contradicts that delusion, for the burden of sin in a True believer will remain with them all their days of this pilgrimage, while in the flesh !
Finally, the call in Matt 11:28 is directed to a specific character of people, it is Authoritative in that it also enables, to bring about the intended results, Rest !
If any teach otherwise, that it is a call to all without exception, they are liars !
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More on Rom 3:20
Rom 3:20
20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
Why is it that apostate religion ignores the clear teaching of this verse ? They in spite of it's testimony, teach that one by the deeds of the flesh or the law can and do Justify themselves before God or in His sight. They do this most often when they say by their act of Faith or believing, while in a unregenerate state, yet dead in sin, they did something to cause God to be pleased and Justify them in His sight ! They reject the clear dictum of this verse, they defy it, and unless God grant them repentance from this evil,it will surely be their Eternal Ruin ! Anyone right now who believed they did anything that caused God to Justify them in His sight, you are a debtor to do the whole law of God perfectly before you will ever see heaven. That means you bet not say, think , do any evil, ever against God's Law !
Rom 3:20
20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
Why is it that apostate religion ignores the clear teaching of this verse ? They in spite of it's testimony, teach that one by the deeds of the flesh or the law can and do Justify themselves before God or in His sight. They do this most often when they say by their act of Faith or believing, while in a unregenerate state, yet dead in sin, they did something to cause God to be pleased and Justify them in His sight ! They reject the clear dictum of this verse, they defy it, and unless God grant them repentance from this evil,it will surely be their Eternal Ruin ! Anyone right now who believed they did anything that caused God to Justify them in His sight, you are a debtor to do the whole law of God perfectly before you will ever see heaven. That means you bet not say, think , do any evil, ever against God's Law !
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The man of sin religions preaches a uncertain redemption that is made available to all men without exception, it proclaims that the decree's of God are mutable [liable or subject to change or alteration] depending on the will of God's creature's, that Christ's Suretyship is Uncertain, and that the Operation,s of The Spirit is often times rendered ineffective or frustrated by the mighty freewill of man, which all of this is Blasphemy, it is religious atheism, and it is very popular all over the world today, except for those whose names had been written in the Lambs book of Life from the foundation of the world Rev 13:8-9
8And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
9If any man have an ear, let him hear.
8And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
9If any man have an ear, let him hear.
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Salvation as a reward for Faith !
In essence what the majority of antichrist followers believe as to being saved by Grace through Faith is this, that a person is either saved or Justified before God, as a reward for their act of Believing. ; for that my friends is salvation or Justification by works. This thinking rejects salvation or Justification by grace alone !
In essence what the majority of antichrist followers believe as to being saved by Grace through Faith is this, that a person is either saved or Justified before God, as a reward for their act of Believing. ; for that my friends is salvation or Justification by works. This thinking rejects salvation or Justification by grace alone !
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The First sin !
The first sin that brought sin into the world, it was against God's Law, a Law of prohibition, so it became an act of doing; That was the sin [doing], and that established the evil principle of doing. This evil principle is Now the evil principle that motivates fallen man Gen 11:1-4
1And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech.
2And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar; and they dwelt there.
3And they said one to another, Go to, let us make brick, and burn them thoroughly. And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for morter.
4And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.
This is why fallen depraved men must always rely on our performances. This evil principle is only overcome by the New Birth. This evil principle of doing, pride, and unbelief was instilled in the flesh of man by satan [by Divine Decree and Purpose] dealing with Eve, and that is why Adam followed suite, and He did eat also. Note: Eve from satan's behesting desired to be something more than what God her to be, hence the installment of the evil principle of Justification by our performances or works ! Thats what cain brought to the Lord, his best efforts !
Now, Adam died at the time Eve his wife ate, because she was accountable only through His headship, the law prohibiting being first given to Adam while she was yet in her head Adam !
Gen 2:15-17
15And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.
16And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
The first sin that brought sin into the world, it was against God's Law, a Law of prohibition, so it became an act of doing; That was the sin [doing], and that established the evil principle of doing. This evil principle is Now the evil principle that motivates fallen man Gen 11:1-4
1And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech.
2And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar; and they dwelt there.
3And they said one to another, Go to, let us make brick, and burn them thoroughly. And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for morter.
4And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.
This is why fallen depraved men must always rely on our performances. This evil principle is only overcome by the New Birth. This evil principle of doing, pride, and unbelief was instilled in the flesh of man by satan [by Divine Decree and Purpose] dealing with Eve, and that is why Adam followed suite, and He did eat also. Note: Eve from satan's behesting desired to be something more than what God her to be, hence the installment of the evil principle of Justification by our performances or works ! Thats what cain brought to the Lord, his best efforts !
Now, Adam died at the time Eve his wife ate, because she was accountable only through His headship, the law prohibiting being first given to Adam while she was yet in her head Adam !
Gen 2:15-17
15And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.
16And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
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Ye reject salvation by grace !
Acts 15:11
But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved in the same manner as they.â€
Rom11:5
Even so then, at this present time there is a remnant according to the election of grace.
The remnant of jews, the election of grace, are saved no different than from the gentiles who are saved through grace, they too are of the election of the same grace !
Now those of us who reject the Truth of unconditional election, that God has chosen only a portion out of mankind for grace and glory, and hath purposely decreed from all eternity that the rest shall be hardened and damned in their sins for the Glory of His Justice, the Elect being the Election of Grace, let it be known here and now, we reject Salvation by Grace through Faith ! There is no way around it or any other way to put it, it cannot be watered down or rationalized away ! Now any of us rejecting the revealed will of God, in how He saves certain sinners, you have no other hope ! If one says this is hyper calvinism, that is fine, but you still have rejected salvation by grace, and therefore for all intents and purposes without hope !
Acts 15:11
But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved in the same manner as they.â€
Rom11:5
Even so then, at this present time there is a remnant according to the election of grace.
The remnant of jews, the election of grace, are saved no different than from the gentiles who are saved through grace, they too are of the election of the same grace !
Now those of us who reject the Truth of unconditional election, that God has chosen only a portion out of mankind for grace and glory, and hath purposely decreed from all eternity that the rest shall be hardened and damned in their sins for the Glory of His Justice, the Elect being the Election of Grace, let it be known here and now, we reject Salvation by Grace through Faith ! There is no way around it or any other way to put it, it cannot be watered down or rationalized away ! Now any of us rejecting the revealed will of God, in how He saves certain sinners, you have no other hope ! If one says this is hyper calvinism, that is fine, but you still have rejected salvation by grace, and therefore for all intents and purposes without hope !
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In essence, what the majority of antichrist followers believe, as to being saved by grace through faith is this, that a person is either saved or justified before God, as a reward for their act of believing or act of faith; for that my friends is salvation or justification by works. This type of thinking rejects salvation or justification by grace alone !
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Anyone believing that man has a freewill, does not believe in the Sovereignty of God, and anyone that does not believe in the Sovereignty of God, does not believe in God, not the God of the Bible.
For scripture says Heb 11:6
6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
That He is Sovereign !
For scripture says Heb 11:6
6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
That He is Sovereign !
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The Man of sin followers do not believe in the True God, for they do not believe that God is absolutely Sovereign over all things, and especially over who is Saved by Him.
Anyone who believes that God desires to save all men without exception, because of their willful perversion of 1 Tim 2:4
4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
I say willful because most in the religious circles have had explained to them that all does not always mean all without exception in scripture,
But in any case, the man of sin followers say that God desires the Salvation of all men without exception, but God's desire is not realized, for scripture clearly reveals all without exception shall not be saved !
For anyone to say that God's desire is not realized, is not done, they reject the Sovereignty of God, simple as that, for intents and purposes they are atheist ! There is no God if He is not Sovereign over all things especially Salvation !
Ps 115:3
3 But our God is in the heavens: he hath done whatsoever he hath pleased.
That word pleased is the hebrew word chaphets and means:
to delight in, take pleasure in, desire, be pleased with
Its translated desire 9 times in the OT !
And the word done is the greek word asah and means:
to do, fashion, accomplish, make
a) (Qal)
1) to do, work, make, produce
a) to do
b) to work
c) to deal (with)
d) to act, act with effect, effect
So whatever God desires, He effects by His Power !
So be it known to everyone one of us, who interpret 1 Tim 2:4 to mean that God desires the Salvation of every single individual in the world without exception, and yet does not actually effect it and realize it, you deny the Sovereign God of the scripture, you reject the God of Ps 115:3 and serve an idol of your imagination !
Anyone who believes that God desires to save all men without exception, because of their willful perversion of 1 Tim 2:4
4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
I say willful because most in the religious circles have had explained to them that all does not always mean all without exception in scripture,
But in any case, the man of sin followers say that God desires the Salvation of all men without exception, but God's desire is not realized, for scripture clearly reveals all without exception shall not be saved !
For anyone to say that God's desire is not realized, is not done, they reject the Sovereignty of God, simple as that, for intents and purposes they are atheist ! There is no God if He is not Sovereign over all things especially Salvation !
Ps 115:3
3 But our God is in the heavens: he hath done whatsoever he hath pleased.
That word pleased is the hebrew word chaphets and means:
to delight in, take pleasure in, desire, be pleased with
Its translated desire 9 times in the OT !
And the word done is the greek word asah and means:
to do, fashion, accomplish, make
a) (Qal)
1) to do, work, make, produce
a) to do
b) to work
c) to deal (with)
d) to act, act with effect, effect
So whatever God desires, He effects by His Power !
So be it known to everyone one of us, who interpret 1 Tim 2:4 to mean that God desires the Salvation of every single individual in the world without exception, and yet does not actually effect it and realize it, you deny the Sovereign God of the scripture, you reject the God of Ps 115:3 and serve an idol of your imagination !
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The man of sin gospel and preaching is a false gospel, which makes it appeal to the natural man and his creature abilities. It is a gospel with a man centered approach, and not a Christ centered one. It gives the sinner who is dead in sin, alienated from the life of God, at enmity with him by wicked works, it gives him a ability to do something to save himself from the penalty of his sins, in total disregard to God's Saving Purpose in Election, the saving work of Christ upon the cross, and the saving work of the Spirit in New Birth, because of and the fruit of the saving work of the cross ! It is a false Gospel not grounded in God's Electing Grace Rom 11:5-6; Eph 2:8-9 !