GALATIANS- warning to the Church

[George Muller]

Jesus did not come to make bad people good, He came to make dead people alive? For we all ''ALL MEN'' where dead in our sins. Only through His death and through His life can any man have righteousness and life.

Eph 2:1 ¶ And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
4 ¶ But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)
6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:
7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

Ro 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.
8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.
10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.
11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Ga 1:0 ¶ For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.
11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.:amen

 

[farouk]

Romans and Galatians remind the believer in the Lord Jesus that we are under grace, not law.

'All of grace, yes, grace surpassing,
Such a portion to bestow,
But the love, all knowledge passing,
Grace had taught us now to know.

Love that bore the stripes and sorrow,
Love that suffered on the Tree,
Love that shares the bright tomorrow,
With the loved ones, you and me.'

 

[George Muller]

Romans and Galatians remind the believer in the Lord Jesus that we are under grace, not law.

'All of grace, yes, grace surpassing,
Such a portion to bestow,
But the love, all knowledge passing,
Grace had taught us now to know.

Love that bore the stripes and sorrow,
Love that suffered on the Tree,
Love that shares the bright tomorrow,
With the loved ones, you and me.'

Amen Brother, they are the two books that remove the veil of flesh, which has its power in condemnation and self-righteousness.

 

[farouk]

Romans and Galatians remind the believer in the Lord Jesus that we are under grace, not law.

'All of grace, yes, grace surpassing,
Such a portion to bestow,
But the love, all knowledge passing,
Grace had taught us now to know.

Love that bore the stripes and sorrow,
Love that suffered on the Tree,
Love that shares the bright tomorrow,
With the loved ones, you and me.'

Amen Brother, they are the two books that remove the veil of flesh, which has its power in condemnation and self-righteousness.

Blessings.

 

[Deborah13]

Romans and Galatians remind the believer in the Lord Jesus that we are under grace, not law.

Oh so true, Thank you farouk, beautiful song, too.

 

[forgiven]

So after all that Paul has written in clear words concerning the law, one would take this scripture to mean that Paul is putting the believer back under the law?

How about the scriptures before and after in the law? are any of you suggesting we are under these scriptures;

De 25:2 And it shall be, if the wicked man be worthy to be beaten, that the judge shall cause him to lie down, and to be beaten before his face, according to his fault, by a certain number.
3 Forty stripes he may give him, and not exceed: lest, if he should exceed, and beat him above these with many stripes, then thy brother should seem vile unto thee.
4 Thou shalt not muzzle the ox when he treadeth out the corn.
5 ¶ If brethren dwell together, and one of them die, and have no child, the wife of the dead shall not marry without unto a stranger: her husband's brother shall go in unto her, and take her to him to wife, and perform the duty of an husband's brother unto her

Paul wrote about those who will desire to be teachers of the law, that they will not know what they are saying or trying to affirm.
Do you just pick out the parts of the law that you like? HOW IS VERSE 4 VALID TO BE LAID UPON A BELIEVER BUT VERSE 3 AND 5, ARE NOT?

If we are still to adhere to the law then shouldn't we follow ALL of the law?? What about this example or the laws on MOLD per say in Leviticus 13, or Leviticus 20:9 saying 'For anyone cursing his mother or father shall surely be put to death' ? Just me personally if I find a piece of clothing that has mold on it I throw it in the trash not take it to my pastor... And I wouldn't kill my kid for cursing me although I wouldn't be exactly happy about it.........

 

[forgiven]

Romans and Galatians remind the believer in the Lord Jesus that we are under grace, not law.

:amen

 

[George Muller]

If we are still to adhere to the law then shouldn't we follow ALL of the law??

Of course the law can not be broken into parts, this is just a work of man and mans religion. Paul confronts this very issue in this book.

Ga 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
17 But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners,(WHICH IS THE PURPOSE OF THE LAW) is therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid.

 

[George Muller]

Php 3:3 For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.
4 ¶ Though I might also have confidence in the flesh. If any other man thinketh that he hath whereof he might trust in the flesh, I more:
5 Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee;
6 Concerning zeal, persecuting the church; touching the righteousness which is in the law, blameless.
7 But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for Christ.
8 Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ,
9 ¶ And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by fait

Cast off the old man, and self-righteousness as Paul did, account the works of flesh and your own righteousness by law as dung, and God will use that dung to increase the growth of that tree of faith that grows within all believers.
Do not be mislead, nor deceived, no flesh, no work of man will glory before Him.

 

[farouk]

ALL[/COLOR] of the law?? What about this example or the laws on MOLD per say in Leviticus 13, or Leviticus 20:9 saying 'For anyone cursing his mother or father shall surely be put to death' ? Just me personally if I find a piece of clothing that has mold on it I throw it in the trash not take it to my pastor... And I wouldn't kill my kid for cursing me although I wouldn't be exactly happy about it.........

[MENTION=96530]forgiven[/MENTION]:

Someone said that all Scripture is for us, but all Scripture is not about us. (In other words, it's for our moral and spiritual instruction, but many of the Old Testament passages do not directly describe the situation that the New Testament church is actually in. You can see; I'm dispensational in my thinking!)

Particularly when it comes to the ceremonial law of Old Testament Jews in the land, it is hard to apply it to the Christian, under grace.

Blessings.

 

[John 8:32]

Romans and Galatians remind the believer in the Lord Jesus that we are under grace, not law.

'All of grace, yes, grace surpassing,
Such a portion to bestow,
But the love, all knowledge passing,
Grace had taught us now to know.

Love that bore the stripes and sorrow,
Love that suffered on the Tree,
Love that shares the bright tomorrow,
With the loved ones, you and me.'

Hmmm, funny I always thought that this was the case...

2Ti 3:15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
2Ti 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

 

[farouk]

Romans and Galatians remind the believer in the Lord Jesus that we are under grace, not law.

'All of grace, yes, grace surpassing,
Such a portion to bestow,
But the love, all knowledge passing,
Grace had taught us now to know.

Love that bore the stripes and sorrow,
Love that suffered on the Tree,
Love that shares the bright tomorrow,
With the loved ones, you and me.'

Hmmm, funny I always thought that this was the case...

2Ti 3:15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
2Ti 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

You see some supposed opposition here; I don't.

Let's face it; my thinking is dispensational; yours isn't.

Blessings.

 

[George Muller]

are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

2Ti 3:10 ¶ But thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, charity, patience,
11 Persecutions, afflictions, which came unto me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra; what persecutions I endured: but out of them all the Lord delivered me.
12 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.

Ga 1:6 ¶ I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

14 But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;

Funny how context makes the scriptures come alive with truth!

 

[George Muller]

Ac 7:57 Then they cried out with a loud voice, and stopped their ears, and ran upon him with one accord

They covered their ears from hearing the truth? "THERE IS NONE GOOD, NO NOT ONE"

Those who had spent their whole lives seeking to establish their own righteousness by the law, could not bear the message of Christ. That all men must cast away their own attempts at self-righteousness by the law. It is the flesh of man that seeks to cover itself with fig leaves, but every man is naked and God will not accept the righteousness of man. Those of you who think God accepts your law-keeping, are deceived and you have covered your ears from hearing the truth.

Php 3:3 For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.
4 ¶ Though I might also have confidence in the flesh. If any other man thinketh that he hath whereof he might trust in the flesh, I more:
5 Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee;
6 Concerning zeal, persecuting the church; touching the righteousness which is in the law, blameless.
7 But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for Christ.
8 Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ,
9 ¶ And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by fait

Ga 1:10 ¶ For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.
11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.

The Lord ask those around Him " how can you believe, you who seek honor one from another" The gospel is so contrary to the natural mind of man, that Paul said one must become a fool to be made wise.
Here is the "sword" that the Lord brings? That seperates us even from our own family and all that is of the natural thought of man. For in order to believe and walk in the truth of the gospel, we must cast aside the opinions of all men. If in fact we seek to make the gospel acceptable to man and mans reasoning, we are in fact teaching a false gospel to those with "itching ears". Man in his flesh, loves to exalt his own abilities, wisdom, education, holiness, lawkeeping etc... The true gospel, makes nothing of man and demands that all men cast down all their righteousness as "filthy rags" as "dung". Those who will not do this, will not inherit the Kingdom of God, thus it is easier for the harlot to enter into the Kingdom than those who think they have moral abilty of their own.

13 For ye have heard of my conversation in time past in the Jews' religion, how that beyond measure I persecuted the church of God, and wasted it:
14 And profited in the Jews' religion above many my equals in mine own nation, being more exceedingly zealous of the traditions of my fathers.

If Pauls righteousness and lawkeeping are but "dung"? How deceived are those who "think" God is pleased with their attempts to keep the law?

 

[Elijah674]

Ac 7:57 Then they cried out with a loud voice, and stopped their ears, and ran upon him with one accord

They covered their ears from hearing the truth? "THERE IS NONE GOOD, NO NOT ONE"

Those who had spent their whole lives seeking to establish their own righteousness by the law, could not bear the message of Christ. That all men must cast away their own attempts at self-righteousness by the law. It is the flesh of man that seeks to cover itself with fig leaves, but every man is naked and God will not accept the righteousness of man. Those of you who think God accepts your law-keeping, are deceived and you have covered your ears from hearing the truth.

Php 3:3 For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.
4 ¶ Though I might also have confidence in the flesh. If any other man thinketh that he hath whereof he might trust in the flesh, I more:
5 Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee;
6 Concerning zeal, persecuting the church; touching the righteousness which is in the law, blameless.
7 But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for Christ.
8 Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ,
9 ¶ And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by fait

Ga 1:10 ¶ For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.
11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.

The Lord ask those around Him " how can you believe, you who seek honor one from another" The gospel is so contrary to the natural mind of man, that Paul said one must become a fool to be made wise.
Here is the "sword" that the Lord brings? That seperates us even from our own family and all that is of the natural thought of man. For in order to believe and walk in the truth of the gospel, we must cast aside the opinions of all men. If in fact we seek to make the gospel acceptable to man and mans reasoning, we are in fact teaching a false gospel to those with "itching ears". Man in his flesh, loves to exalt his own abilities, wisdom, education, holiness, lawkeeping etc... The true gospel, makes nothing of man and demands that all men cast down all their righteousness as "filthy rags" as "dung". Those who will not do this, will not inherit the Kingdom of God, thus it is easier for the harlot to enter into the Kingdom than those who think they have moral abilty of their own.

13 For ye have heard of my conversation in time past in the Jews' religion, how that beyond measure I persecuted the church of God, and wasted it:
14 And profited in the Jews' religion above many my equals in mine own nation, being more exceedingly zealous of the traditions of my fathers.

If Pauls righteousness and lawkeeping are but "dung"? How deceived are those who "think" God is pleased with their attempts to keep the law?

Is that what Paul meant???

See Psalms 19...
[7] The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.
[8] The statutes of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes.
[9] The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the LORD are true and righteous altogether.
[10] More to be desired are they than gold, yea, than much fine gold: sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb.

And DUNG???

--Elijah

 

[George Muller]

Ac 7:57 Then they cried out with a loud voice, and stopped their ears, and ran upon him with one accord

They covered their ears from hearing the truth? "THERE IS NONE GOOD, NO NOT ONE"

Those who had spent their whole lives seeking to establish their own righteousness by the law, could not bear the message of Christ. That all men must cast away their own attempts at self-righteousness by the law. It is the flesh of man that seeks to cover itself with fig leaves, but every man is naked and God will not accept the righteousness of man. Those of you who think God accepts your law-keeping, are deceived and you have covered your ears from hearing the truth.

Php 3:3 For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.
4 ¶ Though I might also have confidence in the flesh. If any other man thinketh that he hath whereof he might trust in the flesh, I more:
5 Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee;
6 Concerning zeal, persecuting the church; touching the righteousness which is in the law, blameless.
7 But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for Christ.
8 Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ,
9 ¶ And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by fait

Ga 1:10 ¶ For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.
11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.

The Lord ask those around Him " how can you believe, you who seek honor one from another" The gospel is so contrary to the natural mind of man, that Paul said one must become a fool to be made wise.
Here is the "sword" that the Lord brings? That seperates us even from our own family and all that is of the natural thought of man. For in order to believe and walk in the truth of the gospel, we must cast aside the opinions of all men. If in fact we seek to make the gospel acceptable to man and mans reasoning, we are in fact teaching a false gospel to those with "itching ears". Man in his flesh, loves to exalt his own abilities, wisdom, education, holiness, lawkeeping etc... The true gospel, makes nothing of man and demands that all men cast down all their righteousness as "filthy rags" as "dung". Those who will not do this, will not inherit the Kingdom of God, thus it is easier for the harlot to enter into the Kingdom than those who think they have moral abilty of their own.

13 For ye have heard of my conversation in time past in the Jews' religion, how that beyond measure I persecuted the church of God, and wasted it:
14 And profited in the Jews' religion above many my equals in mine own nation, being more exceedingly zealous of the traditions of my fathers.

If Pauls righteousness and lawkeeping are but "dung"? How deceived are those who "think" God is pleased with their attempts to keep the law?

Is that what Paul meant???

See Psalms 19...
[7] The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.
[8] The statutes of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes.
[9] The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the LORD are true and righteous altogether.
[10] More to be desired are they than gold, yea, than much fine gold: sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb.

And DUNG???

--Elijah

Yes thats what he said in very clear words. You do understand that the Psalms are part of the OLD COVENANT, and that it is to be expected that the Law would uphold the written code of the law?:yes

 

[Elijah674]

Ac 7:57 Then they cried out with a loud voice, and stopped their ears, and ran upon him with one accord

They covered their ears from hearing the truth? "THERE IS NONE GOOD, NO NOT ONE"

Those who had spent their whole lives seeking to establish their own righteousness by the law, could not bear the message of Christ. That all men must cast away their own attempts at self-righteousness by the law. It is the flesh of man that seeks to cover itself with fig leaves, but every man is naked and God will not accept the righteousness of man. Those of you who think God accepts your law-keeping, are deceived and you have covered your ears from hearing the truth.

Php 3:3 For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.
4 ¶ Though I might also have confidence in the flesh. If any other man thinketh that he hath whereof he might trust in the flesh, I more:
5 Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee;
6 Concerning zeal, persecuting the church; touching the righteousness which is in the law, blameless.
7 But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for Christ.
8 Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ,
9 ¶ And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by fait

Ga 1:10 ¶ For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.
11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.

The Lord ask those around Him " how can you believe, you who seek honor one from another" The gospel is so contrary to the natural mind of man, that Paul said one must become a fool to be made wise.
Here is the "sword" that the Lord brings? That seperates us even from our own family and all that is of the natural thought of man. For in order to believe and walk in the truth of the gospel, we must cast aside the opinions of all men. If in fact we seek to make the gospel acceptable to man and mans reasoning, we are in fact teaching a false gospel to those with "itching ears". Man in his flesh, loves to exalt his own abilities, wisdom, education, holiness, lawkeeping etc... The true gospel, makes nothing of man and demands that all men cast down all their righteousness as "filthy rags" as "dung". Those who will not do this, will not inherit the Kingdom of God, thus it is easier for the harlot to enter into the Kingdom than those who think they have moral abilty of their own.

13 For ye have heard of my conversation in time past in the Jews' religion, how that beyond measure I persecuted the church of God, and wasted it:
14 And profited in the Jews' religion above many my equals in mine own nation, being more exceedingly zealous of the traditions of my fathers.

If Pauls righteousness and lawkeeping are but "dung"? How deceived are those who "think" God is pleased with their attempts to keep the law?

Is that what Paul meant???

See Psalms 19...
[7] The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.
[8] The statutes of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes.
[9] The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the LORD are true and righteous altogether.
[10] More to be desired are they than gold, yea, than much fine gold: sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb.

And DUNG???

--Elijah

Yes thats what he said in very clear words. You do understand that the Psalms are part of the OLD COVENANT, and that it is to be expected that the Law would uphold the written code of the law?:yes

So John knows nothing more than what you think that you do?? And it was he that penned many books! + Revelation 12:17! You hold to your position for a short time more & we will see what happens to you. Eccl. 12:13-14.

--Elijah

 

[George Muller]

Is that what Paul meant???

See Psalms 19...
[7] The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.
[8] The statutes of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes.
[9] The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the LORD are true and righteous altogether.
[10] More to be desired are they than gold, yea, than much fine gold: sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb.

And DUNG???

--Elijah

Yes thats what he said in very clear words. You do understand that the Psalms are part of the OLD COVENANT, and that it is to be expected that the Law would uphold the written code of the law?:yes

So John knows nothing more than what you think that you do?? And it was he that penned many books! + Revelation 12:17! You hold to your position for a short time more & we will see what happens to you. Eccl. 12:13-14.

--Elijah

Cool your jets, dont condemn me to heck for believing the bible and its clear reading. Now Paul did not call the law dung, but HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS BY THE LAW, If Paul counts his lawkeeping as dung, how much more do we need to cast away our attempts to justify ourselves by the law?

 

[George Muller]

Ac 7:57 Then they cried out with a loud voice, and stopped their ears, and ran upon him with one accord

They covered their ears from hearing the truth? "THERE IS NONE GOOD, NO NOT ONE"

Those who had spent their whole lives seeking to establish their own righteousness by the law, could not bear the message of Christ. That all men must cast away their own attempts at self-righteousness by the law. It is the flesh of man that seeks to cover itself with fig leaves, but every man is naked and God will not accept the righteousness of man. Those of you who think God accepts your law-keeping, are deceived and you have covered your ears from hearing the truth.

Php 3:3 For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.
4 ¶ Though I might also have confidence in the flesh. If any other man thinketh that he hath whereof he might trust in the flesh, I more:
5 Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee;
6 Concerning zeal, persecuting the church; touching the righteousness which is in the law, blameless.
7 But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for Christ.
8 Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ,
9 ¶ And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by fait

Ga 1:10 ¶ For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.
11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.

The Lord ask those around Him " how can you believe, you who seek honor one from another" The gospel is so contrary to the natural mind of man, that Paul said one must become a fool to be made wise.
Here is the "sword" that the Lord brings? That seperates us even from our own family and all that is of the natural thought of man. For in order to believe and walk in the truth of the gospel, we must cast aside the opinions of all men. If in fact we seek to make the gospel acceptable to man and mans reasoning, we are in fact teaching a false gospel to those with "itching ears". Man in his flesh, loves to exalt his own abilities, wisdom, education, holiness, lawkeeping etc... The true gospel, makes nothing of man and demands that all men cast down all their righteousness as "filthy rags" as "dung". Those who will not do this, will not inherit the Kingdom of God, thus it is easier for the harlot to enter into the Kingdom than those who think they have moral abilty of their own.

13 For ye have heard of my conversation in time past in the Jews' religion, how that beyond measure I persecuted the church of God, and wasted it:
14 And profited in the Jews' religion above many my equals in mine own nation, being more exceedingly zealous of the traditions of my fathers.

If Pauls righteousness and lawkeeping are but "dung"? How deceived are those who "think" God is pleased with their attempts to keep the law?

Ga 1:15 But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace,
16 To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood:
17 Neither went I up to Jerusalem to them which were apostles before me; but I went into Arabia, and returned again unto Damascus.
18 Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to see Peter, and abode with him fifteen days.
19 But other of the apostles saw I none, save James the Lord's brother.
20 Now the things which I write unto you, behold, before God, I lie not.
21 Afterwards I came into the regions of Syria and Cilicia;
22 And was unknown by face unto the churches of Judaea which were in Christ:
23 But they had heard only, That he which persecuted us in times past now preacheth the faith which once he destroyed.
24 And they glorified God in me.

I think that many fail to grasp that we are nothing and have no righteousness of our own, what we are called to do is walk in the spirit by faith and the Spirit will bring forth righteousness, which is the Image of Christ. All goodness and moral ability to work righteousness comes not from man but from God. Those who yet seek to justify themselves by the works of the law, are in fact in rebellion against the truth of the gospel.
Consider that Paul was one of the greatest law-keepers of all, yet he was as far from God as any man could be. But when God came and dwelt in him, the Spirit of God was seen through him.

 

[John 8:32]

Ac 7:57 Then they cried out with a loud voice, and stopped their ears, and ran upon him with one accord

They covered their ears from hearing the truth? "THERE IS NONE GOOD, NO NOT ONE"

Those who had spent their whole lives seeking to establish their own righteousness by the law, could not bear the message of Christ. That all men must cast away their own attempts at self-righteousness by the law. It is the flesh of man that seeks to cover itself with fig leaves, but every man is naked and God will not accept the righteousness of man. Those of you who think God accepts your law-keeping, are deceived and you have covered your ears from hearing the truth.

Php 3:3 For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.
4 ¶ Though I might also have confidence in the flesh. If any other man thinketh that he hath whereof he might trust in the flesh, I more:
5 Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee;
6 Concerning zeal, persecuting the church; touching the righteousness which is in the law, blameless.
7 But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for Christ.
8 Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ,
9 ¶ And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by fait

Ga 1:10 ¶ For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.
11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.

The Lord ask those around Him " how can you believe, you who seek honor one from another" The gospel is so contrary to the natural mind of man, that Paul said one must become a fool to be made wise.
Here is the "sword" that the Lord brings? That seperates us even from our own family and all that is of the natural thought of man. For in order to believe and walk in the truth of the gospel, we must cast aside the opinions of all men. If in fact we seek to make the gospel acceptable to man and mans reasoning, we are in fact teaching a false gospel to those with "itching ears". Man in his flesh, loves to exalt his own abilities, wisdom, education, holiness, lawkeeping etc... The true gospel, makes nothing of man and demands that all men cast down all their righteousness as "filthy rags" as "dung". Those who will not do this, will not inherit the Kingdom of God, thus it is easier for the harlot to enter into the Kingdom than those who think they have moral abilty of their own.

13 For ye have heard of my conversation in time past in the Jews' religion, how that beyond measure I persecuted the church of God, and wasted it:
14 And profited in the Jews' religion above many my equals in mine own nation, being more exceedingly zealous of the traditions of my fathers.

If Pauls righteousness and lawkeeping are but "dung"? How deceived are those who "think" God is pleased with their attempts to keep the law?

Is that what Paul meant???

See Psalms 19...
[7] The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.
[8] The statutes of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes.
[9] The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the LORD are true and righteous altogether.
[10] More to be desired are they than gold, yea, than much fine gold: sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb.

And DUNG???

--Elijah

Yes thats what he said in very clear words. You do understand that the Psalms are part of the OLD COVENANT, and that it is to be expected that the Law would uphold the written code of the law?:yes

You do not understand the difference between the Old Covenant and the Old Testament. Furthermore, you do not understand the difference between the Old Covenant and the New Covenant.