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Gap Theory

for_his_glory said:
When using "re" in front of a word like replenish re is a prefix that means return. My thought, which has no basis other than being a thought, is that return means to go back to something that once was but no longer exist.

The gap theory has been debated for years, but always in theory without any absolutes. Wish we could know for sure as it would be fascinating.
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I will give you a chance to fuss at me again.
Ephesians 2:12 kjv
12. That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:

This is the void condition of the world at creation.
A gentile with nothing sees Gods work manifested.
LOL

eddif
 
If anyone is serious about studying the "Gap," even if it's just for understanding, this pastor does a great job at it's explanation. If any of you watch it, I'd love to know your thoughts.

 
JackrabbitSlim said:
If anyone is serious about studying the "Gap," even if it's just for understanding, this pastor does a great job at it's explanation. If any of you watch it, I'd love to know your thoughts.

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Why would you want to promote something that requires a re-write of scripture?
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Bible.
Verse 1 In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.
Verse 2 The earth was without form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.

Preacher.
Verse 1 In the beginning, God created the heaven GAP
Verse 2 And the earth GAP was formless and void. “HOW DID THAT HAPPEN? IT WASN’T CREATED THAT WAY. WHAT CAUSED IT TO BE VOID?”

He assumes incorrectly there was a creation between verses one and two when light, vegetation, plants, trees, fish, birds, livestock, creeping things, beasts and man were created. This is the gap theory. Then the first creation was destroyed and there was a second creation after verse 2.
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eddif said:
I will give you a chance to fuss at me again.
Ephesians 2:12 kjv
12. That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:

This is the void condition of the world at creation.
A gentile with nothing sees Gods work manifested.
LOL

eddif
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I wouldn't fuss at you as you are my favorite redneck :lol

Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead

I only used the first part of this verse to show how all of creation is invisible to all of us in the beginning as we were not there or could not understand if there was any type of gap before Adam was created, but we can clearly see all that God created including the first man Adam. Hope this makes sense.
 
JackrabbitSlim said:
If anyone is serious about studying the "Gap," even if it's just for understanding, this pastor does a great job at it's explanation. If any of you watch it, I'd love to know your thoughts.

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I don't have time right now to watch, but I will make time tomorrow as I do find all of this fascinating.
 
Cooper said:
Bible.
Verse 1 In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.
Verse 2 The earth was without form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.

Preacher.
Verse 1 In the beginning, God created the heaven GAP
Verse 2 And the earth GAP was formless and void. “HOW DID THAT HAPPEN? IT WASN’T CREATED THAT WAY. WHAT CAUSED IT TO BE VOID?”

He assumes incorrectly there was a creation between verses one and two when light, vegetation, plants, trees, fish, birds, livestock, creeping things, beasts and man were created. This is the gap theory. Then the first creation was destroyed and there was a second creation after verse 2.
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I haven't watch the video yet, but have a question for you. Let me ask you a question about verse 2. Since the earth was without form and void and dark, where did the water come from?

A question like this is almost the same as saying there was a gap, but yet no positive answers. No one is saying in this thread that there was a gap, but only speculating if there was one or not. All the OP is looking for are others views as that is all we have.
 
for_his_glory said:
All the OP is looking for are others views as that is all we have.
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This Pastor-Pastor Bob of Austin Bible Church, who is my Pastor-teaches more than just this one video on the Gap. His explanation of it is-to me- sound biblical teaching, having compared Scripture with Scripture. He often jokes, "there are more questions in Genesis than there are answers in Genesis." You are correct, I'm just curious as to the thoughts and beliefs of other's, not to argue, debate, or persuade other's to believe as I-as no one here has been put in my charge- but to understand what other believers believe. I will not be standing next to anyone at the Bema Seat judgement, nor will anyone be standing next to me. We will all stand before Christ on our own at that judgement, each one's works-performed after salvation, not for salvation-being tested by fire. They will either survive like Gold, Silver or precious stones, or be burned up like hay, wood and stubble. Cf. 1 Cor. 3:12-14.
 
for_his_glory said:
I haven't watch the video yet, but have a question for you. Let me ask you a question about verse 2. Since the earth was without form and void and dark, where did the water come from?

A question like this is almost the same as saying there was a gap, but yet no positive answers. No one is saying in this thread that there was a gap, but only speculating if there was one or not. All the OP is looking for are others views as that is all we have.
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I know the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters, that water is the source of life and that the apostle John in Revelation 22:1 saw a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb and God was there.

Further to this, we read John 4:14 But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst, but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life. Revelation 21:6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. Revelation 22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely. I am thinking that the water was not literal water, but God himself, the giver of life. from whom all blessings flow.
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Cooper said:
I know the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters, that water is the source of life and that the apostle John in Revelation 22:1 saw a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb and God was there.

Further to this, we read John 4:14 But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst, but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life. Revelation 21:6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. Revelation 22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely. I am thinking that the water was not literal water, but God himself, the giver of life. from whom all blessings flow.
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Again, let me ask you a question about verse Genesis 1:2. Since the earth was without form and void and dark, where did the water come from?

It's the same as asking about the gap theory as there is no absolute answer.

The Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters. God would not be hovering over Himself according to those scriptures you gave about living water, so again, where did the literal water come from since God is the source of life, not literal water. Drink the water, river of life is not literal water, but that of God who is the life giver.

Gen 1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
Gen 1:7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
Gen 1:8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
Gen 1:9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
Gen 1:10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.

Psa 33:7 He gathereth the waters of the sea together as an heap: he layeth up the depth in storehouses.

I don't want to derail this thread and make it about water as I am only using this as an example that not everything is or will be known to us, but becomes speculations and man's theories that have no Biblical base.
 
for_his_glory said:
Again, let me ask you a question about verse Genesis 1:2. Since the earth was without form and void and dark, where did the water come from?

It's the same as asking about the gap theory as there is no absolute answer.

The Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters. God would not be hovering over Himself according to those scriptures you gave about living water, so again, where did the literal water come from since God is the source of life, not literal water. Drink the water, river of life is not literal water, but that of God who is the life giver.

Gen 1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
Gen 1:7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
Gen 1:8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
Gen 1:9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
Gen 1:10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.

Psa 33:7 He gathereth the waters of the sea together as an heap: he layeth up the depth in storehouses.

I don't want to derail this thread and make it about water as I am only using this as an example that not everything is or will be known to us, but becomes speculations and man's theories that have no Biblical base.
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I will keep it short. Hopefully.
studyfinds.org

The Sun may be the surprising source of water on Earth

Solar winds created water on the surface of dust grains, which asteroids ferried to Earth during the formation of the solar system.
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The moon symbolically is Jesus. Light in darkness rules the night.

The sun symbolically is the Father and rules the day.

Revelation 21:23 kjv
23. And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.

Symbolism
Water comes from throne of God.

No one has to comment. I would like to drop any more comments.

eddif
 
eddif said:
I will keep it short. Hopefully.
studyfinds.org

The Sun may be the surprising source of water on Earth

Solar winds created water on the surface of dust grains, which asteroids ferried to Earth during the formation of the solar system.
studyfinds.org studyfinds.org

The moon symbolically is Jesus. Light in darkness rules the night.

The sun symbolically is the Father and rules the day.

Revelation 21:23 kjv
23. And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.

Symbolism
Water comes from throne of God.

No one has to comment. I would like to drop any more comments.

eddif
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I didn't want to make this about water and derail this thread, but just showing sometimes there is no absolutes.
 
eddif said:
I will keep it short. Hopefully.

The moon symbolically is Jesus. Light in darkness rules the night.
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Gen. 1:16-18; " God made the two great lights, the greater light to govern the day, and the lesser light to govern the night; He made the stars also. God placed them in the expanse of the heavens to give light on the earth, and to govern the day and the night, and to separate the light from the darkness; and God saw that it was good."
So, God made Himself and made His Son and saw that They were good? The sun "governs the day" and the moon "governs the night."
eddif said:
The sun symbolically is the Father and rules the day.

Revelation 21:23 kjv
23. And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.
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Rev. 21:23, is speaking of the New Jerusalem.
 
JackrabbitSlim said:
Gen. 1:16-18; " God made the two great lights, the greater light to govern the day, and the lesser light to govern the night; He made the stars also. God placed them in the expanse of the heavens to give light on the earth, and to govern the day and the night, and to separate the light from the darkness; and God saw that it was good."
So, God made Himself and made His Son and saw that They were good? The sun "governs the day" and the moon "governs the night."

Rev. 21:23, is speaking of the New Jerusalem.
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Revelation (sure is) talking about the New Jerusalem. PaRDeS would consider New Jerusalem close to Sod. The (S) in PaRDeS.

Jesus is the light. Some think I must be on moonshine (earthly moonshine). IMHO the moon turned to blood is Jesus crucified (before his glorious return). Just a little gap before it happens.

I am encouraged to use restraint in the discussion of New Jerusalem.

Mississippi Redneck
eddif
 
for_his_glory said:
Again, let me ask you a question about verse Genesis 1:2. Since the earth was without form and void and dark, where did the water come from?

It's the same as asking about the gap theory as there is no absolute answer.

The Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters. God would not be hovering over Himself according to those scriptures you gave about living water, so again, where did the literal water come from since God is the source of life, not literal water. Drink the water, river of life is not literal water, but that of God who is the life giver.

Gen 1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
Gen 1:7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
Gen 1:8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
Gen 1:9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
Gen 1:10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.

Psa 33:7 He gathereth the waters of the sea together as an heap: he layeth up the depth in storehouses.

I don't want to derail this thread and make it about water as I am only using this as an example that not everything is or will be known to us, but becomes speculations and man's theories that have no Biblical base.
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I have just got out of bed after a good nights sleep with this thought on my mind. We know today that the basic elements were there right from the beginning, and when the Bible speaks of water it is telling us the oxygen and hydrogen had combined to form water according to the revelation given me by the Holy Spirit, "and the Spirit of God hovered over the waters."
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Cooper said:
I have just got out of bed after a good nights sleep with this thought on my mind. We know today that the basic elements were there right from the beginning, and when the Bible speaks of water it is telling us the oxygen and hydrogen had combined to form water according to the revelation given me by the Holy Spirit, "and the Spirit of God hovered over the waters."
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Hebrews 11:3 kjv
3. Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.

Will not work very well for water, but works for other things.

eddif
 
eddif said:
Hebrews 11:3 kjv
3. Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.

Will not work very well for water, but works for other things.

eddif
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Water isn't worlds.
Water which is seen, is not made of things which do appear.
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