Grace is given and not merely offered !

[glorydaz]

No, the verse refers to "all men everywhere."

I know what it says, and what it means, it means all elect men every where, both jew and gentile..

No, it means "all men everywhere."

It's hard to describe colors to the blind, too.

 

[Benoni]

Of course. Jesus blood is greater then Adam's sin.

Check out the thread "What is the Tabernacle of David" in Apologetics and Theology.

Then you tell me what the Tabernacle of David is?

The elect in the NT is the Overcomer, but .that does not exclude the remainder of mankind.

God is only caling His firstfruits.

Are you saying all of mankind will be saved?

Those who believe that Jesus is the Son of God are the overcomers.

For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous. For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith. Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?

Christ was the firstfruits of "them that slept".
[quote="1 Cor. 15:20-23":3hn3yej7]But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept. For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

The early church was the firstfruits of the Spirit.

And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.

The bride will be gathered at the harvest.
The tares will be burned up. The harvest will be finished.[/quote:3hn3yej7]

 

[savedbygrace57]

Only a remnant receive Grace from God !
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Rom 11:

5Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.


6And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.

7What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded.

God's Grace is only towards a remnant of mankind and not all of mankind. God had declared long ago His Sovereignty in His distribution of Grace among men ex 33:

19And he said, I will make all my goodness pass before thee, and I will proclaim the name of the LORD before thee; and will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will shew mercy on whom I will shew mercy.

God has determined to show grace only to those He has chosen in Christ before the foundation of the world..

eph 1:

4According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

2 tim 1:

9Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,

Paul in my text was speaking about the jews, but the prinicipal extends to mankind in general, that God has purposed to save by grace through Faith only a remnant, a remnant from the jews and a remnant from the gentiles, equals the Israel of God, the world Christ came to save..