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Unless he repented of sin before he died, his fate is a lake of fire.
He sounds to me like He trusted in God's forgiveness for repentance of sin.


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Billy Graham: If we repent, God is always willing to forgive us​


Q: Is it possible to run so far away from God that you can never get back? I admit that that’s what I’ve been doing the last few years. Is He so fed up that there’s no hope for me, do you suppose? — K.D.

A: One of the Bible’s greatest truths is that God is always willing to forgive us, no matter how far we’ve wandered or how much we’ve rebelled against Him. All we need to do is sincerely repent of our sins and turn in faith to Christ for the forgiveness we need. The Bible says, “If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness” (1 John 1:9).
 
This is not what Christ said.

Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free? Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin. And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever. If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed. (John 8:31-36)

He said very clearly that those who shall know the truth will be free from sin, i.e. won't commit sin. Apparently, these corrupt bodies can be freed from the sin nature, because Christ will replace it. Do you believe His words?
How are these Jews that Jesus is speaking to "Believers" if " they" are rebuking the Lord's claim of needing freedom saying to Jesus they are already free by birth through Abraham ?

"They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?

Clearly they have no clue of what kind of freedom Jesus is speaking of if they are rebuking Jesus by claiming birth through Abraham as their ticket to freedom.
These are unbelievers who have not trusted The Word of God of redemption thru Christ so of course they remain servants of sin.
 
He sounds to me like He trusted in God's forgiveness for repentance of sin.
Without his own turn from sin, and of course baptism in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of past sins, there was no forgiveness.
FAITH

Billy Graham: If we repent, God is always willing to forgive us​

Q: Is it possible to run so far away from God that you can never get back?
No.
I admit that that’s what I’ve been doing the last few years. Is He so fed up that there’s no hope for me, do you suppose? — K.D.
No.
A: One of the Bible’s greatest truths is that God is always willing to forgive us, no matter how far we’ve wandered or how much we’ve rebelled against Him. All we need to do is sincerely repent of our sins and turn in faith to Christ for the forgiveness we need. The Bible says, “If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness” (1 John 1:9).
The crux of that was the sincere repentance from sin.
If you turn away from something, (sin in this case), you don't turn back to it...ever.
That makes us non-sinners !
That makes Graham wrong about "No one is without sin."
 
The crux of that was the sincere repentance from sin.
If you turn away from something, (sin in this case), you don't turn back to it...ever.
That makes us non-sinners !
That makes Graham wrong about "No one is without sin."
No one born with carnal nature is without sin.
That is why you do not know anybody dead or alive who is without sin.
 
No one born with carnal nature is without sin.
I agree.
That is why you do not know anybody dead or alive who is without sin.
Do you suppose that may be why God brought forth RE-birth ?
We who were once saddled with Adam's tendencies have been given God's tendencies !
It is written..."Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust." (2 Peter 1:4)

Interested in having a divine nature ?
 
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I agree.

Do you suppose that may be why God brought forth RE-birth ?
We who were once saddled with Adam's tendencies have been given God's tendencies !
It is written..."Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust." (2 Peter 1:4)

Interested in having a divine nature ?

The divine nature does not remove the carnal nature .
It puts us at war with the carnal nature.
By the divine nature Moses parted the Red Sea , but the retained carnal nature caused him to later disobey God and suffer being forbidden to enter the Promised land for his sin.
There is nobody you have ever met who does not harbor the same carnal nature of Adam retained post salvation.
That is why you do not personally know anyone who commits no sin.
That is why it was needed for Jesus to command that each day , & every day, until the day we no longer inhabit these rotting bodies that are all walking in the same direction of the graveyard, His children are to pray for God's forgiveness of any trespasses we , His children, who are one with Him, and will always be one with Him may have committed .

"...give us this day our daily bread and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us ....."

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Matthew 6:14
For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:
But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
 
The divine nature does not remove the carnal nature .
The destruction of the old man, (Rom 6:6), and rebirth from God's seed, (1 John 3:9), removes the carnal nature.
It puts us at war with the carnal nature.
By the divine nature Moses parted the Red Sea , but the retained carnal nature caused him to later disobey God and suffer being forbidden to enter the Promised land for his sin.
Moses couldn't be reborn of God's seed.
There is nobody you have ever met who does not harbor the same carnal nature of Adam retained post salvation.
That is why you do not personally know anyone who commits no sin.
That is why it was needed for Jesus to command that each day , & every day, until the day we no longer inhabit these rotting bodies that are all walking in the same direction of the graveyard, His children are to pray for God's forgiveness of any trespasses we , His children, who are one with Him, and will always be one with Him may have committed .

"...give us this day our daily bread and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us ....."

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For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:
But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
“Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. For he that is dead is freed from sin.” (Rom. 6:6-7)

"Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness." (Rom 6:18)

"But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life." (Rom 6:22)

I will stick with Paul on this subject.
 
The destruction of the old man, (Rom 6:6), and rebirth from God's seed, (1 John 3:9), removes the carnal nature.

Moses couldn't be reborn of God's seed.

“Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. For he that is dead is freed from sin.” (Rom. 6:6-7)

"Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness." (Rom 6:18)

"But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life." (Rom 6:22)

I will stick with Paul on this subject.
And still the truth remains that you have never met, and never will meet, another person on this earth who commits no sin ?
 
How are these Jews that Jesus is speaking to "Believers" if " they" are rebuking the Lord's claim of needing freedom saying to Jesus they are already free by birth through Abraham ?

"They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?

Clearly they have no clue of what kind of freedom Jesus is speaking of if they are rebuking Jesus by claiming birth through Abraham as their ticket to freedom.
These are unbelievers who have not trusted The Word of God of redemption thru Christ so of course they remain servants of sin.
I partially agree with what you said. These people did not believe that they were in bondage. However, the Bible said that they believed on Yahshua. They believed that he is someone special from God because of his miracles, but they did not understand who he was.

Notice, that Yahshua tells them what happens with them IN THE FUTURE if they will continue in his word:

Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

And this is what happened:

Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.
Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.
(Romans 6:16-18).

Notice "made free from sin".
 
I partially agree with what you said. These people did not believe that they were in bondage. However, the Bible said that they believed on Yahshua. They believed that he is someone special from God because of his miracles, but they did not understand who he was.
Jesus says that these so called "believers" seek to kill Him , because His Word is not accepted by them.
Clear to me that Jesus is speaking to active , practicing unsaved sinners.
You are misapplying Jesus Words for the unsaved to the saved as well as misinterpreting the meaning as it applies to the unsaved .
You made a wrong turn in your interpretation of " Believed on Him"
If they believed in salvation thru Him He would not have to keep trying to convince them after the fact.
These people are like the ones that knew & BELIEVED Jesus could heal the lame , and tried to set Him up to violate the sabbath in doing so.

You got the cart before the horse where these people who are seeking to kill Jesus are concerned.


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I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you.
 
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Speak to all the congregation of Israel, saying: ‘On the tenth of this month every man shall take for himself a lamb, according to the house of his father, a lamb for a household. And if the household is too small for the lamb, let him and his neighbor next to his house take it according to the number of the persons; according to each man’s need you shall make your count for the lamb. Your lamb shall be without blemish, a male of the first year. You may take it from the sheep or from the goats. Now you shall keep it until the fourteenth day of the same month. Then the whole assembly of the congregation of Israel shall kill it at twilight. And they shall take some of the blood and put it on the two doorposts and on the lintel of the houses where they eat it. Then they shall eat the flesh on that night; roasted in fire, with unleavened bread and with bitter herbs they shall eat it. Do not eat it raw, nor boiled at all with water, but roasted in fire—its head with its legs and its entrails. You shall let none of it remain until morning, and what remains of it until morning you shall burn with fire. And thus you shall eat it: with a belt on your waist, your sandals on your feet, and your staff in your hand. So you shall eat it in haste. It is the LORD’s Passover. Exodus 12:3-11



Have you ever heard of the Passover Lamb?


The witnesses in the law of Moses, the prophets and the Psalms are about Him.


The ark of testimony was a type of Christ.

The contents with within the ark were types of Christ.

Moses was a type of Christ.

Aaron the high priest was a type of Christ.

All the sacrifices pointed to Christ and all the things His sacrifice accomplished for us.

Then He said to them, “These are the words which I spoke to you while I was still with you, that all things must be fulfilled which were written in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms concerning Me.” Luke 24:44
Thank you for these witnesses. Yes, there are many types of Christ in the Old Testament. However, I specifically asked about the witnesses of the death, burial and resurrection on the 3rd day of the Messiah. For example, do you see all of these in the story with the Passover Lamb?
 
No, you didn't.
Is it within the rules here to accuse a man without any proof ?
False teachers, every one of them.
Proof, please.

It is written...
"Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus:" (Col 1:28)
"Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity." (2 Tim 2:19)
 
Is it within the rules here to accuse a man without any proof ?

Proof, please.
The Bible is proof, some of which I gave on the first page, and I can give more. Do you not find it problematic for your position that there is no explicit statement that believers are without sin, or that no writer of the NT claimed to be without sin?

It is written...
"Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus:" (Col 1:28)
"Warning every man" of what? Why the need for warning believers if they automatically don't sin?

"Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity." (2 Tim 2:19)
This too is proof--"let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity," is a command to depart from iniquity. It is a meaningless command if believers automatically stop sinning.
 
The Bible is proof, some of which I gave on the first page, and I can give more. Do you not find it problematic for your position that there is no explicit statement that believers are without sin, or that no writer of the NT claimed to be without sin?
These Rom 6 verses aren't good enough for you ?
“Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.For he that is dead is freed from sin.” (Rom. 6:6-7)
"Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness." (Rom 6:18)
"But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life." (Rom 6:22)
"Warning every man" of what? Why the need for warning believers if they automatically don't sin?
The lazy will fall, and exhortations and admonissions are for our benefit.
Satan doesn't stop trying to make you show you love sin more than you love God, after you are converted.
He doesn't quit, and neither do God's bishops and deacons.
There is a war going on.
This too is proof--"let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity," is a command to depart from iniquity. It is a meaningless command if believers automatically stop sinning.
Not everyone who reads Paul's letters is a Christian.
And hearing, and reading those words strengthens those who have already turned from sin.
Seeing that some fight so hard against obeying 2 Tim 2:19, those kinds of exhortations may actually influence proponents of sinfulness.
God is gracious.
 
Is that really what he said?


You probably should take everything in context, as taking things out of context very often leads to error. That, and this is why one should consult several versions and, for the most part, leave the KJV alone.

First, as I have posted elsewhere, we have this:

1Jn 1:8 If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
1Jn 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
1Jn 1:10 If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
1Jn 2:1 My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. But if anyone does sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous.
1Jn 2:2 He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world. (ESV)

We see that from the very start of chapter 1 and continuing throughout, on past these verses, John uses first person plural pronouns--"we," "us," "our." He is clearly speaking about himself, the other apostles and disciples, and then including all believers.

Then, we see that those who think they are believers, those who include themselves in the "we," "us," and "our," but claim to be without sin are self-deceived, don't have the truth, make God a liar, and don't have his word in them. But, in between that, we see that by confessing our sins, God will forgive and cleanse us. This is then brought up again at the start of chapter 2.

In 2:1, we read "My little children," which does not describe unbelievers. His point there is clearly that if one of the "little children" (one of the believers to whom he is writing) sin, there is "someone who pleads with the Father on our behalf—Jesus Christ." More than that, in verse 2 he clearly differentiates between "our sins" and "the sins of the whole world."

We also have this:

1Jn 5:16 If anyone sees his brother committing a sin not leading to death, he shall ask, and God will give him life—to those who commit sins that do not lead to death. There is sin that leads to death; I do not say that one should pray for that. (ESV)

Which is an absolutely clear statement that believers do sin.

James affirms this as well:

Jas 5:13 Is anyone among you suffering? Let him pray. Is anyone cheerful? Let him sing praise.
Jas 5:14 Is anyone among you sick? Let him call for the elders of the church, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord.
Jas 5:15 And the prayer of faith will save the one who is sick, and the Lord will raise him up. And if he has committed sins, he will be forgiven.
Jas 5:16 Therefore, confess your sins to one another and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person has great power as it is working. (ESV)


No. It's because the whole Bible is full of man sinning, even the NT:

Gal 2:11 But when Cephas came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he stood condemned.
Gal 2:12 For before certain men came from James, he was eating with the Gentiles; but when they came he drew back and separated himself, fearing the circumcision party.
Gal 2:13 And the rest of the Jews acted hypocritically along with him, so that even Barnabas was led astray by their hypocrisy.
Gal 2:14 But when I saw that their conduct was not in step with the truth of the gospel, I said to Cephas before them all, “If you, though a Jew, live like a Gentile and not like a Jew, how can you force the Gentiles to live like Jews?” (ESV)

Paul confronting Peter in his sin.


1Co 2:1 And I, when I came to you, brothers, did not come proclaiming to you the testimony of God with lofty speech or wisdom.
1Co 2:2 For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ and him crucified.
1Co 2:3 And I was with you in weakness and in fear and much trembling,
1Co 2:4 and my speech and my message were not in plausible words of wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power,
1Co 2:5 so that your faith might not rest in the wisdom of men but in the power of God.
...
1Co 2:12 Now we have received not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might understand the things freely given us by God.
1Co 3:1 But I, brothers, could not address you as spiritual people, but as people of the flesh, as infants in Christ.
1Co 3:2 I fed you with milk, not solid food, for you were not ready for it. And even now you are not yet ready,
1Co 3:3 for you are still of the flesh. For while there is jealousy and strife among you, are you not of the flesh and behaving only in a human way? (ESV)

Paul considered the church at Corinth to be believers, who had received "the Spirit who is from God," but believers who clearly struggles with sin as they grow towards maturity and completeness in Christ.


Heb 4:14 Since then we have a great high priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus, the Son of God, let us hold fast our confession.
Heb 4:15 For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but one who in every respect has been tempted as we are, yet without sin.
Heb 4:16 Let us then with confidence draw near to the throne of grace, that we may receive mercy and find grace to help in time of need. (ESV)

It is clearly stated that we, which is all believers, have weaknesses. Notice the clear implication--Jesus can "sympathize with our weaknesses" because he was "in every respect . . . tempted as we are," but was "without sin." It is because only Jesus was perfect that we can approach God with confidence to "receive mercy and find grace to help in time of need." That means we can overcome temptation, but that is only if, we do what is stated in verse 16.

Much of the NT deals with sin and tells us how we can overcome temptation so we don't sin. However, it is clear that we do still struggle with sin. To say otherwise is to make God a liar, which is blasphemy.
Thank you for the detailed message with many good references.

Yes, we read in the Bible that on the one hand believers continue to sin, but on the other hand they have been set free from sin.

If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. (1 John 1:8-10).

Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God (1 John 3:9).

This sounds like a contradiction, and Christian theologians have been trying to explain it for centuries.

This contradiction can only be explained by understanding Yahweh's purpose. He reflected the spiritual through the physical (Romans 1:19,20). Therefore, spiritual birth (birth from God leading to sinlessness according to John) can be understood through the physical birth of a child. The birth of a child goes through 3 stages (following the pattern of the Tabernacle): fertilization, intrauterine development, and birth into the world. Note that miscarriages can occur during intrauterine development, for example, if the mother abuses alcohol. In spiritual birth, a person hears and receives the Word of Truth (fertilization), grows and is formed in knowledge (intrauterine development), and begins to live spiritually on his own when Yahweh reveals truth or gives him spiritual understanding (spiritual birth). This process is described in the Savior's parable of the sower (Matthew 13:1-23).

From this we see that there are 2 groups of believers. Those who understand - they were born and cannot give up God or go back to their mother's womb (John 3:3,4) and do not sin. Those who are not yet spiritually mature and are in the “spiritual womb” can refuse God and not be born Spiritually (2 Peter 2:20) and continue to sin. Of course, there is also a large group of people who think they believe in the Truth, but have not heard the Truth, but believe in interpretations and traditions.

More detailed explanation with more witnesses is in this lecture which includes a PowerPoint presentation (from 1hr23min until 2hr02min):

 
Thank you for the detailed message with many good references.

Yes, we read in the Bible that on the one hand believers continue to sin, but on the other hand they have been set free from sin.

If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. (1 John 1:8-10).

Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God (1 John 3:9).

This sounds like a contradiction, and Christian theologians have been trying to explain it for centuries.

This contradiction can only be explained by understanding Yahweh's purpose. He reflected the spiritual through the physical (Romans 1:19,20). Therefore, spiritual birth (birth from God leading to sinlessness according to John) can be understood through the physical birth of a child. The birth of a child goes through 3 stages (following the pattern of the Tabernacle): fertilization, intrauterine development, and birth into the world. Note that miscarriages can occur during intrauterine development, for example, if the mother abuses alcohol. In spiritual birth, a person hears and receives the Word of Truth (fertilization), grows and is formed in knowledge (intrauterine development), and begins to live spiritually on his own when Yahweh reveals truth or gives him spiritual understanding (spiritual birth). This process is described in the Savior's parable of the sower (Matthew 13:1-23).

From this we see that there are 2 groups of believers. Those who understand - they were born and cannot give up God or go back to their mother's womb (John 3:3,4) and do not sin. Those who are not yet spiritually mature and are in the “spiritual womb” can refuse God and not be born Spiritually (2 Peter 2:20) and continue to sin. Of course, there is also a large group of people who think they believe in the Truth, but have not heard the Truth, but believe in interpretations and traditions.

More detailed explanation with more witnesses is in this lecture which includes a PowerPoint presentation (from 1hr23min until 2hr02min):

The "contradiction" is solved when you realize that John is writing about two different kinds of people in 1 John 1.
Those who walk in God (the light). (1 John 1:5)
And those who walk in sin (darkness). (Pro 4:19)
John uses an A-B, A-B, A-B, style of writing to juxtapose one group against the other.
(Paul uses the same system in Rom 8, where he juxtaposes those who walk in the flesh against those who walk in the Spirit.)
Not all of 1 John 1 applies to those who walk in God, while other parts do not apply to those who walk in sin.
Sinners cannot say they have no sin.
Those who walk in God can say they have no sin, as there is no sin in God !
 
These Rom 6 verses aren't good enough for you ?
“Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.For he that is dead is freed from sin.” (Rom. 6:6-7)
"Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness." (Rom 6:18)
"But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life." (Rom 6:22)
And:

Rom 6:11 So you also must consider yourselves dead to sin and alive to God in Christ Jesus.
Rom 6:12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, to make you obey its passions.
Rom 6:13 Do not present your members to sin as instruments for unrighteousness, but present yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life, and your members to God as instruments for righteousness. (ESV)

Why command those things if Christians automatically don't sin, which would make those commands meaningless?

The lazy will fall,
Who are the lazy and in what way will they fall?

and exhortations and admonissions are for our benefit.
Bu why are exhortations and admonitions necessary in the first place if we no longer sin?

Satan doesn't stop trying to make you show you love sin more than you love God, after you are converted.
He doesn't quit, and neither do God's bishops and deacons.
There is a war going on.
Exactly, which is in part why Christians still struggle with sin. But, if a believer cannot sin, then Satan's attempts are pointless, and he would know that.

Not everyone who reads Paul's letters is a Christian.
Not now, no. However, back then? Your statement, which seems to be an obvious workaround for the obvious dealings of sin in Paul's letters (and the rest of the NT), misses the obvious--Paul's letters were written to churches and individual believers. Their primary, and perhaps even sole, original audience was believers.

And hearing, and reading those words strengthens those who have already turned from sin.
But, again, commanding believers to stop sinning and to be holy, is pointless if believers don't sin and are perfectly holy.

Seeing that some fight so hard against obeying 2 Tim 2:19, those kinds of exhortations may actually influence proponents of sinfulness.
God is gracious.
Yes, God is gracious, but once again, when it comes to someone who thinks they're a believer and claims to be without sin, God says they're self-deceived, do not have the truth, make him a liar, and don't have his word in them.
 
I am a man who quit committing sin when I repented of sin.
I learned that I could be...had to be sinless, from other sinless men, and women.
The fact is that you have never met another human being on earth who does not commit sin .
How would you know the heart of another ?
Only God Himself knows that.
 
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