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Here's a Poll just because I'm curious

Can a true believing Mormon receive salvation (assuming they believe in Jesus)?

  • Yes

    Votes: 6 35.3%

  • No

    Votes: 6 35.3%

  • I'm not sure

    Votes: 5 29.4%
  • Total voters
    17
  • Poll closed .
Fish Catcher Jim said:
Brothers and Sisters,
John 3:16 says Who So Ever.....it does not say if you are of another branch and dont believe certain things or believe things that are not so, can NOT find me and be saved..... For many years catholics have found Jesus even when they believed as a whole in a different way. Now they line up with scripture about Jesus being the only way to the Father.....

None of us have the authority to say who is and who is not or who can or can not be saved.
A J,W can be saved......infact I believe many are and some stick around to try and change the hearts of others and some leave to find a more fitting church or group of believers...

It's not about I hope or think God may or may not have mercy on these or those.
It's is written....The only way to the Father is through the Son. So therefore who so ever shal Belive in the name of Jesus......shall be saved.....You still have to ask.......ANY ONE other then these people will NOT spend eternity with the Father......

This is why we are under His Grace.......giving time for all people in this world a true chance at surrendering unto Him and becoming born again. The time is drawing down, satan is working hard, Believers BETTER BE getting their life together and start doing what the written word of God says we are to be doing and thinking and speaking and living. We are His voice and this means if we decide these are doomed and give up then we are acting in such a way that says....Hey God I got this for you, don't worry I will keep these folks from getting in here. Sounds far fetched AND yet rings out with truth...Think about it....

The worse killer and most perverted person WILL NOT GO TO HELL for their killing and perversion and such, No, No, NO they will ONLY go to hell FOR NOT EXCEPTING CHRIST JESUS AS THEIR LORD AND SAVIOR. Which means if ben lauden (sp) asked Jesus into his heart right before he died.....well he may just be your neighbor in Heaven. Think about that.......before you try to decide if some one can be saved or not.
Just food for thought my friends
Jim
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I don't really think anyone here was disagreeing with you on this. When we have been talking about people from another religion such as Mormonism not being able to go to heaven, we aren't talking about people who were from that religion who have now accepted Christ. We are talking about people who are still in that religion and still believe and support the parts of it that exclude them from being Christian, such as not believing in or accepting the same Jesus that is in the Bible. I don't think anyone would disagree that anyone, no matter what their background, can repent from it and turn to Christ and therefore be saved.
 
dianegcook said:
That is good to know, that you stated there is no judgment.
I think judging someone's walk with God is dangerous.
Matt.7:1-3
Judge not, that ye be not judged.
For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged, and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
And why beholdeth thou the mote that that is in thy brother's eye, but considereth not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Matt.12:36
But I say unto you, that every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.

Blessing to you also.
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Here is 2 good scripture to go along with yours, 1 Samuel 16:7 and Jeremiah 17:10
 
Christ_empowered said:
This is kinda like Jehovah's Witnesses. They use an altered Bible. Can they be saved? I don't think so. I'd like to think that God may show mercy upon them, especially if they were raised in the faith, but...I'm not God, obviously. Kind of like I'm sure there are lots of Catholics who are genuinely saved (I mean, 1.1 billion or so catholics...), but I don't think Catholicism itself is a good tool to facilitate God's work in peoples' lives.
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I wouldn't be so sure. When God draws someone unto Himself, He can use just about anything. He knows how we receive things and the best way to speak to our hearts. He can and will reveal the truth in the middle of the lies, and give that person such peace knowing that they just herd from Him. May turn their life upside down, but that is ok because it's for His glory, because the person draws closer to Him.
 
Obadiah said:
I don't really think anyone here was disagreeing with you on this. When we have been talking about people from another religion such as Mormonism not being able to go to heaven, we aren't talking about people who were from that religion who have now accepted Christ. We are talking about people who are still in that religion and still believe and support the parts of it that exclude them from being Christian, such as not believing in or accepting the same Jesus that is in the Bible. I don't think anyone would disagree that anyone, no matter what their background, can repent from it and turn to Christ and therefore be saved.
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Hello Brother Obadiah,
I was simply replying from the origional posting of (can a true believing mormon receive salvation assuming they believe in Jesus) and also from a few other comments such as God may have mercy on them and a few other things. I am sorry if this confused you.
Have a Blessed day
Jim
 
Obadiah said:
This is so true. But maybe I misunderstood the poll question somehow. I see I am the only one in this forum that believes a person who believes in the Mormon doctrine is NOT saved. Or maybe I just believe differently than everyone else...
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I fully agree with you! And am on the same page. Just trying to make comments that back up what your saying in different ways.
Many blessings of peace and joy be yours in abundance my friend! :pray
 
dianegcook said:
Do you think the same way about Catholics?
Pope?
Mary?
Just curious, don't mean to put you on the spot. Lol

:couch
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That's ok, I don't mind being put on the spot. I don't believe the same way about Catholics, but I can't elaborate on that because we are not allowed to discuss Catholic doctrine here. What I understand is that Mormon's have an entirely different set of beliefs then that of Christians. One of them being that a person can become a god themselves. Also that Jesus is Satan's brother.
 
Gary said:
So what happens to the people who've never heard of Him?

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Well that is just it. God is giving us time to get that job done. Christians are so busy arguing about the times and rapture and this and that and this is holdinhg things up. We are responsible to get this job done. God will call it done when His word has been spoken in all area's. Then He calls it done. Those who are left behind still have a shot at getting saved but it will be a very dificult time and thing to do. This is what I have come to learn from the studies I attended about the end times and revelation and such.
 
kiwidan said:
I know nothing about the mormon faith, but what is written from one of the Apsostles, i think Paul, is, faith is somewhat dead without works.

So, if they believe in Jesus as there saviour, and they do good works, i cannot see why they would not have salvation.
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What is your idea of Good works ?
 
kiwidan said:
I know nothing about the mormon faith, but what is written from one of the Apsostles, i think Paul, is, faith is somewhat dead without works.

So, if they believe in Jesus as there saviour, and they do good works, i cannot see why they would not have salvation.
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Problem is that they do not believe that Jesus is their savior. Just that He was a prophet, like their own Joseph Smith. Whose writing that they follow more than the Word of God.
 
Fish Catcher Jim said:
Well that is just it. God is giving us time to get that job done. Christians are so busy arguing about the times and rapture and this and that and this is holdinhg things up. We are responsible to get this job done. God will call it done when His word has been spoken in all area's. Then He calls it done. Those who are left behind still have a shot at getting saved but it will be a very dificult time and thing to do. This is what I have come to learn from the studies I attended about the end times and revelation and such.
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What about the ones who have already passed on?

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kiwidan said:
Many faiths look at Jesus as just a prophet, so be it. He was a prophet. Maybe one day they will understand it is written from the beginning of time because he was there, and through all the prophets that he will be blessed and worthy of praise, glory and honour.

Jesus was Gods own sacrifice that he promised to Abraham. If people believe in the God of Abraham and do not believe his promised lamb would suffer and take away the worlds sin, they need to study more and pray.
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Yes that is true, but only Jesus can save a person from their sins. Or wipe the slate clean so to speak.
 
kiwidan said:
To obey Jesus commandments, but then i find it hard, more impossible because i am a sinner and God loved me before i loved him.

If i focus more on God love for me, more than mine for him, i have peace and feel blessed.

God is righteous in making the sinner righteous, through Christ, for God so loved the world he sent Christ to take all punishment. All Gods wrath was poured on him.

Knowone need be afraid of God.
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Faith with out works is dead.
Another words Faith must be accompanied with Love and Forgivness and everything the written word of God says to do. This includes the words we speak and do not speak. You have to do what the word says to do.

Example.....You are praying for a healing over a cold.......you say you are using your faith......But your mouth is saying things like, I am not ever going to get rid of this cold or this cold is going to be the death of me, etc.
You are speaking against faith. You can not have faith and speak words of doubt and unbelief and this means in every area of your life.

If you are not walking in Love and Forgiveness then your faith can not work for you.
The works that are being talked about is simply doing what the written word of God says we are to be doing.
You have heard be a doer of the word, well that means to do what the word of God says to do.
With out Faith we can not please God...Ever wonder why this is said ?
 
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